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EMF: K-Love and Chrisitian Radio Fundraising (Moved from Buffalo Board)

Radio is a business first before it can be anything else.
Now, instead of being an advertising business with music as the bait, 102.5 will now be all about donations by as many listeners as possible.
To do that successfully they need the strongest possible signal. Otherwise, they would have just taken 107.7.
Keep on mind, EMF runs on donations, not ads, so it no longer matters if it's a listener in Buffalo NY or Toronto ON, just as long as donations come into them.
Effective immediately, (after the week of both stations 102.5 & 98.5) it will no longer matter (to 102.5) that someone in Toronto Ontario might not go to Buffalo to do their shopping. Donations from all over will be welcome.
It could easily be argued that all the religious stations are raising money using fraud. Shouldn't the FCC care about this?
 
It could easily be argued that all the religious stations are raising money using fraud. Shouldn't the FCC care about this?

Fraud? That would require the prosecution to argue that there is no God. Tough argument either way.

People donate to causes they believe in, whether it's finding a cure for cancer or salvation.
 
Fraud? That would require the prosecution to argue that there is no God. Tough argument either way.

People donate to causes they believe in, whether it's finding a cure for cancer or salvation.
That people are trying to find a cure for cancer can easily be proven. As can the existence of cancer.

Arguing that there is no God would be like arguing there is no Spiderman. Not a tough argument.
 
Arguing that there is no God would be like arguing there is no Spiderman. Not a tough argument.
Actually, if you think about creation, the complexity of the Universe and everything right down to atomic particles, for many of us it is a very tough and impossible argument.
 
Actually, if you think about creation, the complexity of the Universe and everything right down to atomic particles, for many of us it is a very tough and impossible argument.
Faith and Science are different animals. Some people of "Faith" believe the world is only 5000 years old and that the Sun rotates around the Earth. Science has proven those claims false. Faith allows people to mold God into any form they choose. The multitude of religions all offer different interpretations of God. The whole premise that God would let an innocent man be crucified and tortured for others crimes is a bit twisted. Everyone else then gets a free pass for all manner of atrocities as long as they "accept Jesus in the end". Doesn't sound like justice to me.

EMF is one of many corporations that will use religion to advance their agenda. They get tax breaks and get to hide behind religion. They are happy to relieve people of their money. A former employee of the Mormon church went on 60 MINUTES to discuss widespread fraud and malfeasance in that organization...
 
The whole premise that God would let an innocent man be crucified and tortured for others crimes is a bit twisted. Everyone else then gets a free pass for all manner of atrocities as long as they "accept Jesus in the end".
I was thinking more broadly than Jesus.
Doesn't sound like justice to me.
And the broader belief indicates that man will make mistakes; that is the same broad belief that inspired "Unanswered Prayers" in a statement that a supreme being does not guide us to every bar pickup.
EMF is one of many corporations that will use religion to advance their agenda.
Their agenda is no deeper than faith in their vision of God.
They get tax breaks and get to hide behind religion.
The do not hide; they are proud of their particular faith and are not taking any tax "breaks" that are not awarded to all non-profits.
They are happy to relieve people of their money. A former employee of the Mormon church went on 60 MINUTES to discuss widespread fraud and malfeasance in that organization...
And that is one person's accusation. Yet if it is proven in our system of "innocent until..." it will be taken care of both from within and by the judicial system. I've had a number of dealings going back to the 60's with Bonneville and found every one to be as clean and professional as could be imagined or wished for.
 
Their agenda is no deeper than faith in their vision of God.

The do not hide; they are proud of their particular faith and are not taking any tax "breaks" that are not awarded to all non-profits.
Part of the K-Love agenda is telling people that Jesus is strapped for cash. They want your money. As bad as many commercial Radio formats are, this product is even worse. From what I've read, Jesus never billed his customers. NPR donors get some good content at least...
 
That's not true. They don't have to say anything. People willingly give them money because they want to. They don't need lies or threats. And it works.
They actively solicit donations from listeners. They DO ask for money. They could tell listeners not to send money. "The Word" is supposed to be free...
 
And that's the biggest ruse of all...
I don't care for EMF's content as I am not an evangelical Christian (and even if I was, Christian AC just sounds...bad, albeit better than in did 20 years ago).

That said, EMF is one of the best run nonprofits out there. Leadership is fairly, not overly, compensated, and most of the money actually goes back into their mission.

Not sure why you think it's a "ruse". Do you feel the same of Public Radio? NPR executives have higher compensation packages then most of the EMF executives.....
 
I don't care for EMF's content as I am not an evangelical Christian (and even if I was, Christian AC just sounds...bad, albeit better than in did 20 years ago).

That said, EMF is one of the best run nonprofits out there. Leadership is fairly, not overly, compensated, and most of the money actually goes back into their mission.

Not sure why you think it's a "ruse". Do you feel the same of Public Radio? NPR executives have higher compensation packages then most of the EMF executives.....
NPR's donations aren't based on fantasy.
 
Part of the K-Love agenda is telling people that Jesus is strapped for cash. They want your money. As bad as many commercial Radio formats are, this product is even worse. From what I've read, Jesus never billed his customers. NPR donors get some good content at least...
As I have said before, I do not listen to the EMF stations, don't even enjoy their type of music. But, based on the ratings in the few markets where EMF is subscribed, they have a significant following. In fact, in the markets were I can see full ratings, they generally do better than 75% or more of the stations licensed to their markets.

So they have a following who obviously like what they do. That being a given, they can either only buy commercial channels and run ads or go the non-commercial route and get listener support.

The commercial stations depend on listeners to give money to their advertisers. They are dependent on their listener base spending money with advertisers.

Listener supported stations also depend in listener money, but more directly.

Oh, and I have monitored the EMF stations just as I monitor all stations in markets I am involved with. They don't say "Jesus is strapped for Cash". They say, when they do fund raising, that their message needs support. Sorta' like what the Red Cross or other fund-raisers say: to keep on doing what we do, we need your support. It's purely voluntary and if you don't agree with what they do, don't send them money. Simple.
 
And that's the biggest ruse of all...
Please explain or I will start deleting your posts.

You don't have to agree with EMF's programming. You don't have to believe in their beliefs. But you can't accuse them... or anyone.. on this forum of cheating without proof. That is defamation and not allowed.
 
You don't have to agree with EMF's programming. You don't have to believe in their beliefs.
The Red Cross gets blood donations that save lives. You're being naive about the power these Religious corporations have. They apply political pressure. I'll let it go at this. No Christian is forced to have an abortion. You don't have to have one, but you don't get to decide for someone else. Oh wait, yes you do. What should be a private medical decision is now illegal in many states directly due to Christian pressure. Spiritual beliefs should be a private matter for each individual to contemplate. One size does not fit all as EMF would have you believe...
 
The Red Cross gets blood donations that save lives. You're being naive about the power these Religious corporations have. They apply political pressure. I'll let it go at this. No Christian is forced to have an abortion. You don't have to have one, but you don't get to decide for someone else. Oh wait, yes you do. What should be a private medical decision is now illegal in many states directly due to Christian pressure. Spiritual beliefs should be a private matter for each individual to contemplate. One size does not fit all as EMF would have you believe...
While this does not necessarily conform with my view on the legality, morality or timing considerations about abortion, I will state how I see the argument... and how devoid of logic your assertion is.

Society agrees that taking other people's stuff is a crime, and punishes it. Society agrees that killing other people is improper and castigates anyone who does it. Society has rules about how people who live together as a community and nation have to behave to coexist and, hopefully, prosper.

People have differing feelings about when life begins and that affects their views on abortion. Because society in general believes that taking another person's life is generally wrong, we have an argument about when life begins. And thus, abortion boils down to "when is a fetus a person". There is disagreement here, and much of it is based on the moral decision about what "a life" is.

So, for those who believe in life beginning shortly after conception, abortion is murder. We don't condone murder among adults except in self defense or war. So how do we, as a society, establish rules for the murder... or not... of a fetus. We, as individuals, don't get to decide what is and what is not murder. Our leaders, lawmakers and our beliefs establish uniform rules.

This is a societal decision based on the taking of a life. The question is "when does life begin". This is not a "private" decision as humanity, by definition, is not private as humanity is societal.
 
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