It’s ok, we know the reason.
It has bass? 😱 Is it all about that bass?
So…hard rock? Punk? Metal?
And not all pop music has been about sex, drugs and violence for decades, but much of it does seem to fit this description to various extents.
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Just because someone talks in a song doesn't make it Rap, imho.
It is amusing and amazing that there was an Alvin and the Chipmunks cover of that song, of all the country songs they could pick.
Ok, it was cleaned up, a lot, but still…what a choice.
Pigmeat Markham was a singer and comedian. He was on the TV show "Laugh-In for one season. He had a Top 20 hit called "Here Comes The Judge" in 1968. It was a comedy/ novelty hit based on that line used on "Laugh-In". It's worth checking out. IT'S RAP!!!! That's not a stretch ... in a comic setting, it's all there.
Shorty Long recorded the same song and also had a hit with it. Thematically, the song was similar to Joe Tex's "Skinny Legs and All," another proto-rap hit. Tex's 1972 "I Gotcha" went even further in the rap direction.
One of Rap's great story-tellers was Slick Rick. He did a song called "Children's Story" which is interesting. It was a Top 5 hit on R&B and Hip-Hop/Rap charts. Unless I only heard an edited version on the radio, Ludacris, with Mary J. Blige, did "Runaway Love" , released in 2007, which tells devastatingly sad stories of young girls in deep trouble. The problem with "Runaway Love" is that, as I remember it, while Luda builds up a compelling narrative, he offers no worthy solution(s) to all of the terrible troubles described which would have made a satisfactory conclusion to the piece.
And Van Morrison was not talking about a poker game "behind the stadium".
Thanks for the update. I haven't heard Shorty Long's version. As for Joe Tex, I don't "hear" much Rap in either song, although "I Gotcha" gets close.
That reminds me of another spoken-word hit ... Jerry Reed's "When You're Hot, You're Hot," which I'm pretty sure was about a game of craps, with no sexual connotations.
Long and Markham were on the charts at the same time. Which one you heard depended on which one your local Top 40 or R&B station chose to play. I can't imagine that many played both.
What?!?! I’m shocked. 😂
Next you’ll tell me Little Red Corvette wasn’t really about a car.
Or Sugar Walls wasn’t about a house constructed of candy.
Nope, not at all. My post you're referring to was in response to a few others that were posted upthread that specifically mentioned rap and the content of rap music.
Country artist Dierks Bentley has a side project called the Hot Country Knights (actually Bentley himself and his road band playing under assumed names), who specialize in double-entendre send-ups of cliched country music themes.
Yes. They were out at the same time, however Shorty Long's version does not approach Rap at all like Pigmeat Markham's take does. Markham's is something special in regards to Rap which wouldn't become a hit genre for another decade.
I'm saying Steven Tyler "talks" in a way that sounds like rap.
Contemporary music has always been about sex for the most part.
Except Little Red Corvette. That was totally about a car.
He wanted to have sex with that car.. 🤣
It seems to me that a lot of the earlier stuff was more about story telling.
Ostensibly, contemporary rap still is.
But from what I've heard on the radio, I can't follow what that story might be, because it sounds more like angry ranting.
Of course! I wasn't trying to single out rap in this respect by any means.
Right.
Just fyi, since I don't think it was mentioned in this thread so far, is Rapture by Blondie, which has a rap section in it. It was released in 1980, I think.
Yeah, pretty much. I'm not saying I don't like all songs that are played with a sad, negative tone, just that I like them soft. I don't really care much for the really hard and loud stuff.
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