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Gaslighter is going up by leaps and bounds. Last week on Country Airplay it was at 51 and this week it is up to 49. Should be number 1 by Thanksgiving.
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The Dixie Chicks Return
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I presume you are being sarcastic, right?
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On Hot Country Hits "Gaslighter" went from 29 to 36 this week. On Country Airplay it is parked at 49. Won't make it to Number 1 by Thanksgiving. Try for Christmas? Why did it start so strong and fizzle so fast? Because the record is nothing special? Because the gals are too old? Because of what Natalie said nearly two decades ago?
^^^ It could be a little bit of everything that can be thought of.
God bless you always!!!
Holly
P.S. At the end of the day, in my opinion, how much is there to complain about when so much was accomplished before that controversial slip of the tongue took place? Go here to see the award show bling that Joe Diffie was able to score...or should I say was not able to score? Thankfully, awards are not what truly get the bills taken care of and if Joe were still here, I am sure that he wouldn't hesitate to point that out.
God bless you always!!!
Holly
P.S. At the end of the day, in my opinion, how much is there to complain about when so much was accomplished before that controversial slip of the tongue took place? Go here to see the award show bling that Joe Diffie was able to score...or should I say was not able to score? Thankfully, awards are not what truly get the bills taken care of and if Joe were still here, I am sure that he wouldn't hesitate to point that out.
I just looked at Mediabase, and saw 8 new stations playing the song. I also see the song is charting on Country, AAA, and Hot AC. I see an increase in the spins from last week. However, it is getting fewer spins than most of the other songs in the chart. So that's why it's not moving up. It's received about 10 million impressions. So it hasn't fizzled yet. It still has its bullet. It's still growing and still being added. Will it go to #1? I'm not sure that's the goal. The country charts are a lot more crowded than they used to be. Competition is tough. Even Garth Brooks wasn't able to get a #1 with Dive Bar.
How does a song drop from 29 to 37 in Billboard yet still retain its bullet elsewhere? Isn't Billboard based on airplay now too? The song is nothing special and the Chicks' sound is yesterday's news. Let it go.
The two charts have a few different stations and use different metrics. There are two Billboard country charts. One based only on airplay, the other based on airplay & streaming. I don't know what "Hot Country Hits" is. That may be a local station.
I thought "Hot Country Hits" was a reference to one of the Billboard charts, since they've used "hot" in the names of their charts forever. I haven't looked at Billboard for years, though. Highly unlikely that it would be a local station -- do local stations still publish charts? That concept seems about three decades past its expiration date.
Aha, yes you're right. It's actually Hot Country Songs, not Hits. That threw me off. That is the chart that combines airplay with streaming. Maren Morris "The Bones" is #1 there. That song peaked in airplay a few weeks ago. So if its dropping at Hot Country Songs, that tells me that streaming in down, which indicates a lack of fan passion.
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This week on Hot Country "Gaslighter" is up from 36 to 33. On Country Airplay down from 49 to 54. It would appear that the Dixie Chicks are now the Dixie Old Hens and they have laid an egg.
Looking at Mediabase, some of the first believers in the song, such as Salt Lake City and Kansas City, are starting to cut back on their spins. The song has lost its bullet. The new spin leader is Orlando. So a few stations are backing off. Only one add this week, and it's a big one: WUSN Chicago. Two spins. In the evening. They're sticking their toes in the water. We'll see what happens next week. Typically you'd want to have some appearances to promote, but nobody can do anything because of the virus. They did Ellen a couple months ago. But nothing else since. I'm sure the goal was to put the single out to launch a tour. But no tours right now. So everything's on hold.
IMO, the song is only getting attention because of who is performing it. It's a mediocre piece of work that uses an extremely irritating current buzzword as its title. The group's overall sound is nearly 20 years old and its members are all between 45 and 50. That the song has charted at all is somewhat remarkable; it's a stiff, no question about that, but actually may have overachieved just to gain that status.
What you say here about radio activity is one thing that I have never understood about how radio works. I have seen it said that some stations don't start playing songs until the songs hit a certain spot on the charts. If that is all true, when are the people in charge of those stations, who hesitate to play new songs, going to learn that songs will never reach that certain spot until more stations are playing the song? I believe that my most favorite male singer is sadly a victim of this matter, James Otto that is. If more stations had jumped in earlier like other stations did, his material would've had better success.
God bless you and him always!!!
Holly
P.S. Another thing that I would like to know is how much of a difference do listener requests really make? I ask because I've also heard it said that being requested so much is the reason why "Just Got Started Lovin' You" from James was as big as it became.
There is no one single answer. Radio stations use a lot of tools to figure out what to play. There are some stations that only play old songs. Some stations that mainly play new songs. The record labels call radio stations to try to convince them to add new songs. There's a lot of competition. That's what's happening here. There are a lot of songs being released, and a radio station can't play them all.
^^^ Thank you for writing back to me. To me, everything should be out there and then the listeners should be who decides on what gets played more.
God bless you always!!!
Holly
God bless you always!!!
Holly
Generally, listener requests are ignored. They are not representative of reality, particularly today when much of the audience does not phone... they text for everything.
A station may note an increase in requests (if they have a studio phone any more... many don't) but it can be caused by several noxious reasons. First, artist fan groups will try to make a hit out of a stiff. Then the record companies will also try to make a hit out of a stiff.
But a few times, calls and texts and messages may indicate a hit breaking that the station does not play or does not play enough.
Most stations use highly sophisticated research, either locally or within the owner group, to make decisions. They contact you, not the other way around. And some bigger market stations use PPM to see if listeners go away every time a song is played, and if they see negatives, they quit playing a song.
I think what Holly is referring to is the new artist who starts off with a big hit or two that clicks on radio quickly, then suddenly becomes yesterday's news and is never heard from again no matter what the label sends to radio. That was the case with her favorite. I'm also thinking of Steve Holy with "Good Morning Beautiful," Mark McGuinn with "Mrs. Steven Rudy," Boy Howdy and their two hits, The Wilkinsons with "26 Cents" (although they continued to have hits in Canada). How does an artist go from having a successful formula to near oblivion so fast?
Every case is different, every song is different. Sometimes a record label goes out of business. Sometimes the follow-up is a dud. Or the next three follow-ups are duds. Sometimes the artist is satisfied with being a one-hit wonder. Once you have a huge hit, it can be hard for that artist to top it. Hard to say. Not everyone loves the spotlight. Alison Krauss was like that. She had one big year, and she hated every minute of it. She was very happy to go back to her bluegrass world. Some artists are fortunate enough to have the publishing on their hit so they keep cashing in every time the song gets played 10-20 years later. There are a lot of variables.
^^^ What you say about a one hit wonder status being enough to satisfy the singer may be the perfect way to describe that girl named Cyndi Thomson. After her first song named "What I Really Meant To Say" left its mark in 2001, that was it for her. Her next two songs didn't do as well and her first album ended up being her only album. I remember reading that wanting more time for writing is the reason why she walked away.
God bless you three and James and Cyndi always!!!
Holly
P.S. My favorite song from Cyndi was her third release named "I'm Gone".
To me, all requests should be played if the requests are for songs that the station has and if they don't have the song, they should get it and let the listener know of the best time to tune in at least.
Exactly. The list goes on and on when naming singers who hit it big only to eventually quickly lose the attention they once had. To me, the follow up to "Just Got Started Lovin' You" from James was a song named "For You" and why it didn't do as well is anyone's guess. In my opinion, the video that was made for the song only made the song even better.
God bless you three and James and Cyndi always!!!
Holly
P.S. My favorite song from Cyndi was her third release named "I'm Gone".
The most extreme example of that that I could think of would have to be Mindy McCready. She apparently couldn't even handle stardom and the limelight. She had issues and problems that she just never recovered from. I don't know if maybe someone should have intervened on her behalf, but she definitely was unable to keep it together.
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