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WHO WILL GO ALL CHRISTMAS FIRST IN NEW YORK? AND WHEN?

Okay, here's a new topic. Which radio station in the Big Apple will flip to all Christmas music first? And when will they do it? Halloween night? Election night? Or the day after Thanksgiving? Please let me know your choices.
 
WFME, as soon as the sale closes. It'll keep some of the religious audience, then pick up new listeners. Then I'd think it'll flip to country on 12/26.

If it goes rock, then WFME won't go Christmas.

I'd like to hear Cumulus take shots at the failed doomsday predictions, especially 12/21/12.
 
I wonder if Cumulus will make a deal with Family Radio to take over WFME-94.7 by an LMA on November 1st.

This way, it could indeed be 24/7 Christmas music through December 25th, then stunt until January 1st, and begin 2013 with it's "official" new format.

Even if 94.7 goes rock (which I think is a 55% possibility) or country (my odds: 45%), it could be all-Christmas first. Between songs in the days before Christmas, they could plug their
"permanent" format (i.e. "Country's comin' back to the Big Apple January 1st" or "New York's gonna rock again on January 1!").

But if WFME goes all-Christmas in early November, WLTW-106.7 (and maybe WWFS-102.7) will have to follow suit very quickly, perhaps within minutes,. Past situations in many cities have borne out that if there are multiple all-Christmas stations, that the second one flips within minutes of the first.
 
Fresh 102.7 will not go Christmas since it programs in direct opposition to LiteFM and tries to grab listeners who might tune away from the HolidayLiteTM ;);
usually to no avail, however.

It's been fairly well established over the last 5+ years (maybe longer) that WLTW usually turns on the HolidayLiteTM on the Friday before Thanksgiving (in 2012 on Nov. 16) at 5pm ET. Some years it's just for the weekend, then resumes on Thanksgiving - other years just straight through.

WCBS-FM has ramped up the holiday tunage in the 7pm-midnight shift in some previous years.
Otherwise, outside of The City, WALK Patchogue, maybe WKJY Hempstead plus some of the suburban NJ Adult Contemporary stations will go Christmas around the same date, give or take a week.

Basically most (if not all) NYC stations stick to business and let LiteFM have their fun with their 10-share for 5-6 weeks.
Whaddya gonna do when Rudolph runs wild on you?

As for 94.7...

In my opinion, it makes no sense to "stunt" a Christmas format before changing to an incongruous format afterwards, especially if it's a talk, rock or country format. I get the whole "flushing the audience" bit and trying to build up publicity for the new station (similar to what Merlin tried with the "FM New 101.9" Hot AC transition with the chocolate box prizes, etc.) but I'd think that Cumulus would like to get whatever the new format is going to be on the air ASAP (with the caveat that it's ready to go, unlike the WEMP disaster).
This point may be moot should the closing on the station sale not occur until mid-December.
 
Of course this is a "if a tree falls" moment, but Fresh 102.7 does appear to have a Christmas channel up through the radio.com player. It's called "Fresh Christmas." Typical Christmas fare with imaging. If anyone cares! :D
 
The WWFS-HD2 online stream of Fresh Christmas replaces the LastFM online stream (neither of which matches the on-air feed of 102.7 HD2, which as of this writing is airing LastFM Discover).

Besides the Beta version of the Radio.com player previously mentioned in this thread, other listening options are:

64 KB/44 kHz/AAC http://player.streamtheworld.com/liveplayer.php?callsign=WWFSHD2AAC

64 KB/22 kHz http://player.streamtheworld.com/liveplayer.php?callsign=WWFSHD2

Direct streaming URLs to copy/paste:

64 KB/44 kHz/AAC http://provisioning.streamtheworld.com/pls/WWFSHD2AAC.pls

64 KB/22 kHz http://provisioning.streamtheworld.com/pls/WWFSHD2.pls

64 KB/22 kHz http://provisioning.streamtheworld.com/asx/WWFSHD2.asx (Windows Media Player option)
 
Could WLTW-106.7, citing "the need for New Yorkers to cheer up after Hurricane Sandy", flip within the next couple of days (or between tomorrow, November 1st, and this Sunday, November 4th)??
 
Christmas music should be skipped this year on many ac stations people have far bigger things to worry about now
and christmas is not one of them
 
If anything, there's even more reason to go all-Christmas this year. I seem to remember stations flipping early in 2001. Christmas music is comforting. If your house and possessions washed away, Christmas music can be some welcome respite from the misery surrounding you.
 
It's all about choices. If you find the music comforting, tune in. If not, change the station. Not everyone is dealing with devastation. If you look around my neighborhood it's like nothing ever happened.
 
Makes no differeence who goes first. Lite owns the image and can wait if it wants to. Between the election and Sandy, this will be a great year for Christmas music in NYC.
 
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