WBAP is 'Stubified'

[BrainDeadPrez]

Good Lord, if I have to hear Stubie "I talk like a happy Russ Martin" Doak's voice on one more promo, I'm going to throw up. Surely there HAS to be another "voice" at the station that can cut commercials. And that other irritating voice...you know, "The NEWWWWSSSS....and TALK....of Texas..."---equally as sick of that one, too (who is that, anyway? Jack Dillon?) Lots of great V/O talent out there, especially in this market; why don't they go out and find some???

 

[rev_darkness]

Re: WBAP is 'Stubendous'

Hmm...

... and here I was thinkin' that Stubie's got one of the best "voice over" voices in the market...

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[Musicradio]

Re: WBAP is 'Stubendous'

I had the opportunity to work with Stubie in Dallas
back in the mid 80s -- He's a great guy.

 

[317C50KW]

BAP's VO guy

The image voice for WBAP is Lonnie Perkins out of Louisville, KY.
He is one of the nicest people you'd ever want to deal with and has real talent.

Perhaps that's why he's provided imaging for a few other stations you may have heard of, like WJR, WBZ, WSB, KGO and does more than a couple of TV operations.

He built his client roster due to his own hard work, not the coattails of some consultant.

I think what the original poster is jealous of is that Lonnie knows how to interpert copy as opposed to read it. There's a difference. Same can be said for Stubie whom I've never met nor worked with.

I've been dealing with the ego's of voice talent and voices who think they have talent since the mid 70's. When you find someone who gets it, you tend to stick with 'em. I frankly would have a hard time not hearing Lonnie on BAP, Charlie on KLUV, and I'm still not over the fact that Doc isn't on the Ticket
(though he left by his own choosing).

BTW, I don't do VO, I learned early on that I suck at it.

 

[TironeShoes]

Re: BAP's VO guy

I always thought Lonnie Perkins 'BAP read sounds like the old Fire Marshal Bill sketches on In Living Color. "The News and Talk of Texas, What Chu Looking At Cha Cha!!!!!".

But it's not nearly as bad as Mr. Flange on 105-3!
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[KPLEXCOMPLEX]

Re: BAP's VO guy

> I always thought Lonnie Perkins 'BAP read sounds like the
> old Fire Marshal Bill sketches on In Living Color. "The News
> and Talk of Texas, What Chu Looking At Cha Cha!!!!!".
>
> But it's not nearly as bad as Mr. Flange on 105-3!
>
Jimmie Stewart( NOT the late actor) used to do the vo's at WBAP. The vo's fit and they have energy,even though of a couple of their late night talk show hosts don't.

 

[dean1]

Re: BAP's VO guy

I've heard Lonnie as far away as Vancouver Island. Great, distinctive voice who can go soft (which is much harder than being able to go loud). As for Stubie...a very talented guy.

The question is whether Citadel views them as standard or optional.

> > I always thought Lonnie Perkins 'BAP read sounds like the
> > old Fire Marshal Bill sketches on In Living Color. "The
> News
> > and Talk of Texas, What Chu Looking At Cha Cha!!!!!".
> >
> > But it's not nearly as bad as Mr. Flange on 105-3!
> >
> Jimmie Stewart( NOT the late actor) used to do the vo's at
> WBAP. The vo's fit and they have energy,even though of a
> couple of their late night talk show hosts don't.
>
<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by dean1 on 02/21/06 10:25 PM.</FONT></P>

 

[Bob E. Nelson]

> Good Lord, if I have to hear Stubie "I talk like a happy
> Russ Martin" Doak's voice on one more promo, I'm going to
> throw up. Surely there HAS to be another "voice" at the
> station that can cut commercials.

It certainly is a matter of taste and there can be legitimate
differences of opinions. I happen to like Stubie's sound. It's
friendly, natural and certainly not stentorian.

Although an individual's ``off the mike'' persona should not
factor into these matters of taste, having worked with Stubie
years ago, I found he's one the genuinely ``good people''
in this business. Of course, there are talented people who
are jerks. IMHO, Stubie is both talented and about as far
away on the contiuum on the ``jerk scale'' as anyone I've
worked with in this business.

 

[Slambang]

Re: BAP's VO guy

Lonnie does VO for everyone these days...I heard him on 590 KLBJ recently doing intro,bumps and tags for my hero, Jeff "1000% more talented than mark davis" Ward


> I've heard Lonnie as far away as Vancouver Island. Great,
> distinctive voice who can go soft (which is much harder than
> being able to go loud). As for Stubie...a very talented guy.
>
>
> The question is whether Citadel views them as standard or
> optional.
>
> > > I always thought Lonnie Perkins 'BAP read sounds like
> the
> > > old Fire Marshal Bill sketches on In Living Color. "The
> > News
> > > and Talk of Texas, What Chu Looking At Cha Cha!!!!!".
> > >
> > > But it's not nearly as bad as Mr. Flange on 105-3!
> > >
> > Jimmie Stewart( NOT the late actor) used to do the vo's at
>
> > WBAP. The vo's fit and they have energy,even though of a
> > couple of their late night talk show hosts don't.
> >
>

 

[Sparkomatic]

Re: Jeff Ward

> I heard him on 590
> KLBJ recently doing intro,bumps and tags for my hero, Jeff
> "1000% more talented than mark davis" Ward

Jeff is a smart, funny Texan.

His show is perfect for Austin, and Mark's is perfect for Dallas--although I think both could swap places and still be successful. The main difference between the two is that Jeff is unique. Mark's brand of Republican schtick can be heard on radio stations all across the country.

Plus, Jeff is a cool guy. Mark is... uh... well, he's too establishment. Not what you'd call "cool."

Did you compare talent? Well, Jeff has two degrees. He was an All-American college athlete. He teaches in the School of Communications down at UT-Austin. He was Vice President of a Marketing company before he got into radio.

Yeah, I'd say it's safe to say that he's 1000% more talented than Mark Davis.

Now if you're comparing RADIO talent, they're both pretty darned good at what they do.

 

[arnoldevns]

> It certainly is a matter of taste and there can be
> legitimate
> differences of opinions. I happen to like Stubie's sound.
> It's
> friendly, natural and certainly not stentorian.
>
> Although an individual's ``off the mike'' persona should not
>
> factor into these matters of taste, having worked with
> Stubie
> years ago, I found he's one the genuinely ``good people''
> in this business. Of course, there are talented people who
> are jerks. IMHO, Stubie is both talented and about as far
> away on the contiuum on the ``jerk scale'' as anyone I've
> worked with in this business.
>

AMEN times 10! Stubie is an exceptionally talented radio professional. He can walk into a studio with a guitar and a harmonica and come out an hour later with one of the most humorous and creative radio commercials you've ever heard.

He does some hysterical parody songs and (oh by the way) is a fantastic DJ.

He's a very nice man and WBAP would be wise to keep him until he retires.

 

[BrainDeadPrez]

Re: BAP's VO guy

> I think what the original poster is jealous of is that
> Lonnie knows how to interpert copy as opposed to read it.
> There's a difference. Same can be said for Stubie whom I've
> never met nor worked with.

Get real. Do I have to find that other post from a few weeks back that overstates the point that one can dislike something without being jealous of it? My point here is that Stubie is way overused on the station. It's obvious when you hear him doing promos and spots multiple times in every break. He may be a nice guy and all, but this is nothing personal (though I don't agree with his neo-con level of politics, cutting way too many Weird Al-type song parodies that are just abusive and degrading to anyone who is not at the farthest reaches of the Right Wing...but I guess it scores points with Mark Davis.) Any station should have more than one voice, and his grates on my nerves after soooo many times of hearing it. I don't even listen that often, but I sure know what to expect every single time I do.

The other voice, Lonnie -whoever, is way overused as well, and that faked sincerity gets offensive to me after a while. I don't care who the voices are at the station, who got the job, or whatever jealousy someone wants to attribute to any naysaying on the board, I just find the imaging at WBAP very redundant and boring. It's reminiscent of when Schelby at KZPS did all the imaging. It's time to break up the monotony. Even a silky voice like Charlie Van Dyke's can get old when heard a few thousand times.

 

[BrainDeadPrez]

Re: Jeff Ward

> Yeah, I'd say it's safe to say that he's 1000% more talented
> than Mark Davis.
>
> Now if you're comparing RADIO talent, they're both pretty
> darned good at what they do.
>

Now what exactly is it that Mark Davis DOES? Showboats, listens to himself talk, shuts out all dissenting opinions, acts as a schill for the conservatives, and even makes Russ Martin sound sincere. Add to that his personal side: his arrogance and wife-dumping is unmatched in this market. There once was some variety in his show, subjects that even "I" could enjoy from time to time, but it's all politics now, all the time. Endless slamming that's no more than singing to the choir. I'd bet that there are even some conservatives out there who are sick of his childish chortling.

No, I don't want his show. No, I couldn't do a show that fits WBAP's format. I'd rather see someone else...ANYONE else...do something creative and different in that timeslot. He's failed at syndication once, after a mere 8 months of doing a daily show. Why things would be different two years later is beyond me. Citadel will clean house when they get here. One can only hope that there will be some fundamental changes over there.

 

[Slambang]

Re: Jeff Ward

> > Yeah, I'd say it's safe to say that he's 1000% more
> talented
> > than Mark Davis.
> >
> > Now if you're comparing RADIO talent, they're both pretty
> > darned good at what they do.
> >
>
> Now what exactly is it that Mark Davis DOES? Showboats,
> listens to himself talk, shuts out all dissenting opinions,
> acts as a schill for the conservatives, and even makes Russ
> Martin sound sincere. Add to that his personal side: his
> arrogance and wife-dumping is unmatched in this market.
> There once was some variety in his show, subjects that even
> "I" could enjoy from time to time, but it's all politics
> now, all the time. Endless slamming that's no more than
> singing to the choir. I'd bet that there are even some
> conservatives out there who are sick of his childish
> chortling.
>
> No, I don't want his show. No, I couldn't do a show that
> fits WBAP's format. I'd rather see someone else...ANYONE
> else...do something creative and different in that timeslot.
> He's failed at syndication once, after a mere 8 months of
> doing a daily show. Why things would be different two years
> later is beyond me. Citadel will clean house when they get
> here. One can only hope that there will be some fundamental
> changes over there.
>
I agree with ya BrainDead, he's an arrogant, self-absorbed SOB who makes Russel "Im Jesus Himself" Martin look good in comparison. His futile attempts to syndicate, as well as the whole "conservative action movement" is begining to wain in America,be assured that his exit at 820 will occure sooner than later. WBAP, I predict, will have some serious house cleaning when citadel comes to town. they'll be a few survivors (Anybody involved with Hal Jay) and alot of casulties (Mark Davis, the rotating 6p-9p filler,ect..)

If it happends...I wonder if his buddy Russ Martin will put in a good word at 1080?

 

[KPLEXCOMPLEX]

Re: BAP's VO guy

> > I think what the original poster is jealous of is that
> > Lonnie knows how to interpert copy as opposed to read it.
>
> > There's a difference. Same can be said for Stubie whom
> I've
> > never met nor worked with.
>
> Get real. Do I have to find that other post from a few
> weeks back that overstates the point that one can dislike
> something without being jealous of it? My point here is
> that Stubie is way overused on the station. It's obvious
> when you hear him doing promos and spots multiple times in
> every break. He may be a nice guy and all, but this is
> nothing personal (though I don't agree with his neo-con
> level of politics, cutting way too many Weird Al-type song
> parodies that are just abusive and degrading to anyone who
> is not at the farthest reaches of the Right Wing...but I
> guess it scores points with Mark Davis.) Any station should
> have more than one voice, and his grates on my nerves after
> soooo many times of hearing it. I don't even listen that
> often, but I sure know what to expect every single time I
> do.
>
> The other voice, Lonnie -whoever, is way overused as well,
> and that faked sincerity gets offensive to me after a while.
> I don't care who the voices are at the station, who got the
> job, or whatever jealousy someone wants to attribute to any
> naysaying on the board, I just find the imaging at WBAP very
> redundant and boring. It's reminiscent of when Schelby at
> KZPS did all the imaging. It's time to break up the
> monotony. Even a silky voice like Charlie Van Dyke's can
> get old when heard a few thousand times.
>


Some valid points there. A good mixture should be needed . BY the way is it part of the WBAP job reuirement (whether you are on air or off the air) that you absolutely have to be a hard core conservative? Isn't that a little bit illegal? The resident neo -con will say no and blast liberals and if so don't aim at me .I am strictly "GDI"

 

[Jimprewitt1954]

Re: Jeff Ward

> > Yeah, I'd say it's safe to say that he's 1000% more
> talented
> > than Mark Davis.
> >
> > Now if you're comparing RADIO talent, they're both pretty
> > darned good at what they do.
> >
>
> Now what exactly is it that Mark Davis DOES? Showboats,
> listens to himself talk, shuts out all dissenting opinions,
> acts as a schill for the conservatives, and even makes Russ
> Martin sound sincere. Add to that his personal side: his
> arrogance and wife-dumping is unmatched in this market.
> There once was some variety in his show, subjects that even
> "I" could enjoy from time to time, but it's all politics
> now, all the time. Endless slamming that's no more than
> singing to the choir. I'd bet that there are even some
> conservatives out there who are sick of his childish
> chortling.
>
> No, I don't want his show. No, I couldn't do a show that
> fits WBAP's format. I'd rather see someone else...ANYONE
> else...do something creative and different in that timeslot.
> He's failed at syndication once, after a mere 8 months of
> doing a daily show. Why things would be different two years
> later is beyond me. Citadel will clean house when they get
> here. One can only hope that there will be some fundamental
> changes over there.


I here a lot of people claim companies like Cumulus and Citadel will screw up the ABC stations and Susequhanna. I think it will be just the opposite especially with the huge properties like KGO, WLS, WABC. Talent like Sean Hannity and all the local heavies won't be screwed around with. However the small/med/large market stations may have some changes both good and bad.
>
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[BrainDeadPrez]

Re: Jeff Ward

> I here a lot of people claim companies like Cumulus and
> Citadel will screw up the ABC stations and Susequhanna. I
> think it will be just the opposite especially with the huge
> properties like KGO, WLS, WABC. Talent like Sean Hannity and
> all the local heavies won't be screwed around with. However
> the small/med/large market stations may have some changes
> both good and bad.

Regardless of my personal listening preferences, Citadel would be stupid to arbitrarily make changes for the sake of change. They'll need to analyze what's happening in each market, how each individual station in the cluster has done, etc. WBAP's been a consistent top performer for many years, and you don't just go and throw that in the garbage. With Disney still retaining a chunk of stock, guys like Hannity shouldn't be going anywhere else.

 

[theshadow]

Re: BAP's VO guy

> I always thought Lonnie Perkins 'BAP read sounds like the
> old Fire Marshal Bill sketches on In Living Color. "The News
> and Talk of Texas, What Chu Looking At Cha Cha!!!!!".

I'm rollin' dude...That got me laughin' hard. I
loved Fire Marshal Bill. Anyway, Stoob is a great
talent at 'BAP, even if his parodies and the general
populous over there is WAAAAY to the right in their views.
But I understand BrainDeadPrez point of how even great
talent can get redundant and downright boring over time.
When I worked in St. Louis, there was this one dude who's
name was Lance Hildebrand, and his voice was on just about
every local spot in town. Yeah, he was good, won awards, and
all that glitzy crap, but it was one of those...ENOUGH
ALREADY! things....Literally you could hear his voice on
5 different stations over an hour period. It was ridiculous.
I believe that if you have air talent, utilize it!. That's
their job. I think the morning talent on down the chain to the
overnight talent needs to be helping out cutting spots. Don't
just have one prod guy doing all the work and spots. Variety
is the spice of life.

> But it's not nearly as bad as Mr. Flange on 105-3!

Amen to that. Jesus, it's bad enough to hear Mr. Waaaah on every
freakin' spot on 105.3. It's pure torture to hear him branching
out with spots on other stations. That's one station that definitely
needs to get some variety with their spots and liners. David Stone's
spots for the adult entertainment clubs are just hilarious....Waaaah...,
Clubbb Royyyalllle...

 

[KPLEXCOMPLEX]

Re: Jeff Ward

> > I here a lot of people claim companies like Cumulus and
> > Citadel will screw up the ABC stations and Susequhanna. I
> > think it will be just the opposite especially with the
> huge
> > properties like KGO, WLS, WABC. Talent like Sean Hannity
> and
> > all the local heavies won't be screwed around with.
> However
> > the small/med/large market stations may have some changes
> > both good and bad.
>
> Regardless of my personal listening preferences, Citadel
> would be stupid to arbitrarily make changes for the sake of
> change. They'll need to analyze what's happening in each
> market, how each individual station in the cluster has done,
> etc. WBAP's been a consistent top performer for many years,
> and you don't just go and throw that in the garbage. With
> Disney still retaining a chunk of stock, guys like Hannity
> shouldn't be going anywhere else.
>
True,if it ain't broke don't fix it. However keep in mind,you are dealing with non-broadcasting suits who love to tinker and put their own stamp on it,regardless of success if left alone.

 

[317C50KW]

Re: BAP's VO guy

> > I think what the original poster is jealous of is that
> > Lonnie knows how to interpert copy as opposed to read it.
>
> > There's a difference. Same can be said for Stubie whom
> I've
> > never met nor worked with.
>
> Get real. Do I have to find that other post from a few
> weeks back that overstates the point that one can dislike
> something without being jealous of it? My point here is
> that Stubie is way overused on the station.

Yeah, and bet you wouldn;'t mind a high 5 low 6 figure income from doing VO and image work and being good at it.
>
> The other voice, Lonnie -whoever, is way overused as well,
> and that faked sincerity gets offensive to me after a while.

I guess it's pretty much like the posters who have little or nothing better to do than pop up here with regularity. The faked knowledge gets offense to me after a while too..