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Read the words of Robert Kennedy and compare his words to the negligent, cowardly actions of the management of 105.3 FM in Dallas ...

Re: Words to live by ... actions follow ... a true leader ... cut down in his prime ... Robert Kennedy ... then tell me why people should listen 105.3 FM

> > I may only be a listener and not in the radio biz, but
> what
> > does Kennedy's words about "this world and slavery and
> > slaughter and starvation & Government repression" have to
> do
> > with 105.3?
>
>
> Please read the entire text ... read it all.
>
> I am glad you are interested and happy that as a listener
> you have found Radio-Info.
>
> Read the paragraphs below ... then read again.
>
> Listen to Edward M. Kennedy reading the speech ... it is
> moving beyond belief.
>
> A brother's tribute ...
>
http:/> /www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/ekennedytributetorfk.html
>
>
> "A brotherhood of man" ... is what I believe in ...
>
> Build others up ... not down ...
>
> Build our nation by doing what is right.
>
> Right the wrongs.
>
> Punish the wrongdoers.
>
> I ask only one favor of you ... read below.
>
>
>
> > > Surely, this bond of common faith, this bond of common
> > goal,
> > > can begin to teach us something. Surely, we can learn,
> at
> > > least, to look at those around us as fellow men. And
> > surely
> > > we can begin to work a little harder to bind up the
> wounds
> >
> > > among us and to become in our own hearts brothers and
> > > countrymen once again. The answer is to rely on youth --
>
> > not
> > > a time of life but a state of mind, a temper of the
> will,
> > a
> > > quality of imagination, a predominance of courage over
> > > timidity, of the appetite for adventure over the love of
>
> > > ease. The cruelties and obstacles of this swiftly
> changing
> >
> > > planet will not yield to the obsolete dogmas and outworn
>
> > > slogans. They cannot be moved by those who cling to a
> > > present that is already dying, who prefer the illusion
> of
> > > security to the excitement and danger that come with
> even
> > > the most peaceful progress.
>
>
> Now read this book:
>
> "Robert Kennedy In His Own Words ... The Unpublished
> Recollections of the Kennedy Years"
>
> Robert Kennedy in his own words ...
>
> Tony
>
The stuff on 105.3 (and other stations) isn't "real world", it's humor, it's just a bit, you take them too seriously. You make it sound like people only have to listen once to the station and they will turn ~EVIL~ (LOL). If this type of humor is not you cup of tea, fair enough. I'm sure there must be some much more mild (Re: boring) humor somewhere on the radio. Just my opinion.
 
If Russ is your thing ... listen ... I have no problem ... just don't tell me I can't do what I want ... OK? ... OK!

> The stuff on 105.3 (and other stations) isn't "real world",
> it's humor, it's just a bit, you take them too seriously.
> You make it sound like people only have to listen once to
> the station and they will turn ~EVIL~ (LOL). If this type of
> humor is not you cup of tea, fair enough. I'm sure there
> must be some much more mild (Re: boring) humor somewhere on
> the radio. Just my opinion.
>


Hey, man ...

I clearly said to Bingo ... if you like the stuff, listen.

I am 53 years old. I raised a son alone from the time he was two.

He was not allowed to listen to Stern or any of this stuff in my home.

I made the rules. I was the father.

Now he is 27. A lawyer.

If he wants to listen to what I consider demeaning trash, it is his choice.

Now, he does not listen to it. He has grown up.

If you want to listen ... then listen all you want.

That is all I am saying.

I will work to clean up the air of the stench.

You may sit back and enjoy the stench if you like ...

Because that is the American way.

Freedom ... nothing like it.

So enjoy Russ.

Just don't try to tell me that is humor.

In my book, that is not humor.

Thanks.

Tony <P ID="signature">______________
Tony Lyndell Williams</P>
 
Re: I thought I was fighting this alone ...

> "So common sense ... wow ... thanks. I thought I was going
> alone."---Tony
>
> No Tony....you're not alone.
>
> According to The Webster's College Dictionary, the N-word,
> "....is now the most offensive word in English." And is
> "....used when the speaker deliberately wishes to cause
> great offense." It is, "Extremely Disparaging, and
> Offensive."
>
> In my view, (with the exception of your clear vision of and
> eloquence about this topic), all that has been said here
> withers in the simple presence of the facts given voice in
> the above quotations....
>
> That word has no place in civilized communications of any
> kind....for any reason.
>
> Therefore, why would anyone tolerate its use under any
> circumstances? Before it got to any level of
> rationalization; Host to Caller, Boss to Host, Station to
> FCC....On a simple human level, if these reports are true,
> why didn't the producer, the board op, the fellow worker,
> and yes, the boss, just walk up to Russ, and hit him in the
> mouth....hard? And further, why do they continue to be a
> part of his barbarity?
>
> Is it because all those I've mentioned above, in some way or
> another, agree with the use of this most offensive word?
>
> Sadly, I think that must be true.
>
> Jon-David Wells
> Fearless Broadcaster, and
> Tony Lyndell Williams Fan
>
 
Re: Bingo and I agree on some things ... agree to disagree on others ..

Get a call from Bongo McGee? Not likely.

Bongo is a busy guy.
 
Read Jon-David's comments ... an intelligent, well-written commentary

> "So common sense ... wow ... thanks. I thought I was going
> alone."---Tony
>
> No Tony....you're not alone.
>
> According to The Webster's College Dictionary, the N-word,
> "....is now the most offensive word in English." And is
> "....used when the speaker deliberately wishes to cause
> great offense." It is, "Extremely Disparaging, and
> Offensive."
>
> In my view, (with the exception of your clear vision of and
> eloquence about this topic), all that has been said here
> withers in the simple presence of the facts given voice in
> the above quotations....
>
> That word has no place in civilized communications of any
> kind....for any reason.
>
> Therefore, why would anyone tolerate its use under any
> circumstances? Before it got to any level of
> rationalization; Host to Caller, Boss to Host, Station to
> FCC....On a simple human level, if these reports are true,
> why didn't the producer, the board op, the fellow worker,
> and yes, the boss, just walk up to Russ, and hit him in the
> mouth....hard? And further, why do they continue to be a
> part of his barbarity?
>
> Is it because all those I've mentioned above, in some way or
> another, agree with the use of this most offensive word?
>
> Sadly, I think that must be true.
>
> Jon-David Wells
> Fearless Broadcaster, and
> Tony Lyndell Williams Fan


Thanks Jon-David ... you are too kind ...

Sadly, right now, we are talking to other broadcasters who frankly need their jobs in order to support their families and survive.

Fortunately, I have the resources. Life as been good to me as the song says. I don't need money. Some don't understand that I would not do what Martin does for ANY amount of money.

I will not compromise my ethics. I have fought this battle at other jobs.

I would like to work in radio again. However, if I don't, well, I won't and that is ok.

cie la vie ... I say.

Thanks for your well-written and thoughtful comments.

Tony<P ID="signature">______________
Tony Lyndell Williams</P>
 
Re: I thought I was fighting this alone ...

> "If you will take notice Russ didn't say the "N-word" on the
>
> air himself, only his black callers did. And for you to tell
>
> any given group of people (white, black, etc,etc) that they
> themselves can't use a given derogatory term (used aganist
> them in the past) any way they want is giving yourself more
> power than you really have."---Dilligas
>
> "By your way of thinking, I can't use the derogatory term
> "Hun", even though I'm of German decent. Or a Jewish person
> shouldn't use the "K-word" even if they want to."---D
>
> "When you outlaw a derogatory term or word, you give it more
>
> power. If you stand up and call me a blank-blank-Hun!! and I
>
> ignore your ranting and raving, that word loses all it's
> wind."---D
>
> Those are all great points....but aren't the other words you
> identify denoting ethnicity age-old; from other countries?
> The N-Word is all ours, and as such carries a much more
> painful stigma in my view....for all of us.
>
> Further, for me, the offensiveness of that word cannot pale,
> (pun intended), even while being used by those it has long
> been applied to. In fact, it may be even more disturbing in
> that context.
>
> J-D
> FB
>
I believe the N-word is not exclusive to just here, but I could be wrong. You say "the offensiveness of that word cannot pale", you thinking that way gives that word more power. On the other hand if you just laugh at the fact that some group tries to get you wound-up by saying that word, (or any derogatory term) you ruin the power that word has, and the value of their opinion. You show them that word & their opinion means nothing more than the lint you brush off your jacket.
 
It is called freedom of speech my man!

> > "So common sense ... wow ... thanks. I thought I was
> going
> > alone."---Tony
> >
> > No Tony....you're not alone.
> >
> > According to The Webster's College Dictionary, the N-word,
>
> > "....is now the most offensive word in English." And is
> > "....used when the speaker deliberately wishes to cause
> > great offense." It is, "Extremely Disparaging, and
> > Offensive."
> >
> > In my view, (with the exception of your clear vision of
> and
> > eloquence about this topic), all that has been said here
> > withers in the simple presence of the facts given voice in
>
> > the above quotations....
> >
> > That word has no place in civilized communications of any
> > kind....for any reason.
> >
> > Therefore, why would anyone tolerate its use under any
> > circumstances? Before it got to any level of
> > rationalization; Host to Caller, Boss to Host, Station to
> > FCC....On a simple human level, if these reports are true,
>
> > why didn't the producer, the board op, the fellow worker,
> > and yes, the boss, just walk up to Russ, and hit him in
> the
> > mouth....hard? And further, why do they continue to be a
> > part of his barbarity?
> >
> > Is it because all those I've mentioned above, in some way
> or
> > another, agree with the use of this most offensive word?
> >
> > Sadly, I think that must be true.
> >
> > Jon-David Wells
> > Fearless Broadcaster, and
> > Tony Lyndell Williams Fan
> >
> If you will take notice Russ didn't say the "N-word" on the
> air himself, only his black callers did. And for you to tell
> any given group of people (white, black, etc,etc) that they
> themselves can't use a given derogatory term (used aganist
> them in the past) any way they want is giving yourself more
> power than you really have.
>
> By your way of thinking, I can't use the derogatory term
> "Hun", even though I'm of German decent. Or a Jewish person
> shouldn't use the "K-word" even if they want to.
>
> When you outlaw a derogatory term or word, you give it more
> power. If you stand up and call me a blank-blank-Hun!! and I
> ignore your ranting and raving, that word loses all it's
> wind.


I am of German descent too ... my mother's maiden name is Handke.

My father fought the Germans in WWII ... Signal Corps 27 wpm ...

Shot in the wrist ... disabled.

What's your point?

My point is ... don't use racial slurs ... ever.

If you disagree, that is your right.

And it is my right to believe that you are wrong in using racial slurs.

Again, I invite any and all comments.

[email protected]

Tony

<P ID="signature">______________
Tony Lyndell Williams</P>
 
Call collect Bingo ...

> Get a call from Bongo McGee? Not likely.
>
> Bongo is a busy guy.


972-783-7542 ... call collect if you like ...

Tony ... got to go ... <P ID="signature">______________
Tony Lyndell Williams</P>
 
This poster wants to compare Edward R. Murrow with Russ Martin ... silly, absurd ... what do YOU think? Also Amos & Andy discussion ...

> > Would William Paley, the man who supported and backed
> Edward
> > R. Murrow, support the programming on 105.3?
>
> Recall that Paley had both ``highbrow'' and ``lowbrow''
> Murrow, the
> latter facet of whom served as the host of the fluff-filled
> ``Person
> to Person''.


Yes, he certainly did.

But Murrow never ever used profanity or racial slurs.

He is the man who brought Joe McCarthy down.

Not just down ... down and out.

Get the drift!

You are comparing apples and oranges.

No comparision.

Please refrain from comparing Edward R. Murrow with Russ Martin.

Because the comparision is absurd.

And that makes your argument absurd to the extreme.

>
> The Tiffany Network, in addition to being the home of
> Cronkite, Murrow,
> Trout and other distinguished journalists also brought us
> Amos 'n Andy,
> Archie Bunker and Jethro Clampett. There was some zirconium
> among
> the diamonds.


You are absolutely right.

It is hard to reconcile some of it.

However, I still have trouble with Amos & Andy.

And so did thousands of African-Americans, when KNX in Los Angeles once considered airing old episodes of that show.

A boycott stopped it cold.

You decide whether it was right ... or wrong.

Tony<P ID="signature">______________
Tony Lyndell Williams</P>
 
Re: If Russ is your thing ... listen ... I have no problem ... just don't tell me I can't do what I want ... OK? ... OK!

> > The stuff on 105.3 (and other stations) isn't "real
> world",
> > it's humor, it's just a bit, you take them too seriously.
> > You make it sound like people only have to listen once to
> > the station and they will turn ~EVIL~ (LOL). If this type
> of
> > humor is not you cup of tea, fair enough. I'm sure there
> > must be some much more mild (Re: boring) humor somewhere
> on
> > the radio. Just my opinion.
> >
>
>
> Hey, man ...
>
> I clearly said to Bingo ... if you like the stuff, listen.
>
> I am 53 years old. I raised a son alone from the time he
> was two.
>
> He was not allowed to listen to Stern or any of this stuff
> in my home.
>
> I made the rules. I was the father.
>
> Now he is 27. A lawyer.
>
> If he wants to listen to what I consider demeaning trash, it
> is his choice.
>
> Now, he does not listen to it. He has grown up.
>
> If you want to listen ... then listen all you want.
>
> That is all I am saying.
>
> I will work to clean up the air of the stench.
>
> You may sit back and enjoy the stench if you like ...
>
> Because that is the American way.
>
> Freedom ... nothing like it.
>
> So enjoy Russ.
>
> Just don't try to tell me that is humor.
>
> In my book, that is not humor.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Tony
>
Tony, I never said you can't do what you feel (in your opinion) is right. If you want to protest the RMS or 105.3, then make signs and go there during the show and protest with a picket line if you feel it's required, knock your self out. You can shoot for the super clean radio of the '50's if you want, but without ratings how long will that type of radio stay on the air in a major market?
 
Re: If Russ is your thing ... listen ... I have no problem ... just don't tell me I can't do what I want ... OK? ... OK!

>
> I will work to clean up the air of the stench.
>
> You may sit back and enjoy the stench if you like ...
>
> Because that is the American way.
>
> Freedom ... nothing like it.
>
> So enjoy Russ.
>
> Just don't try to tell me that is humor.
>
> In my book, that is not humor.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Tony
>

Freedom, Tony, means being able to do what you please, as long as you don't infringe the rights of another. If you don't like it, don't listen. It's called "freedom of choice".
 
Re: The silent majority ... would William Paley, the man who built CBS, support 105.3? You decide ... email me now ...

> However, President Nixon believed in a silent majority.
>
> You are obviously part of the silent majority who do NOT
> listen to 105.3 FM.
>
> Look at the ratings. The majority of DFW listeners do not
> listen ...
>
> They reject the trash, the filth, and the rest.
>


Tony, perhaps you are TECHNICALLY correct, inasmuch as a 51% majority, but the numbers speak for themselves, that more people listen to Russ than to any other radio show in DFW. But it's hardly a rejection of Russ when among the other highly rated shows are stations playing "Gangsta Rap", or Country music songs that glorify cheating, drinking, fighting, prison, etc... or Rock tunes that glorify cheating, drinking, fighting, prison, drugs, etc..

You want to show them what is right, buy a station a beat them all with YOUR ratings. Let me know how that works out for ya.
 
Re: ed is right on the money, The FCC is weak ... weak sisters ... puppets of the Bush Administration ... actually it is more like a Fellini farce ...

> Sadly, Ed is so right.
>
> The nation needs to clean house.
>
> The midterm elections are a place to start.
>
> Get rid of the corruption.

While I basically agree with the sentiment in your post, the subject like does require comment.

I usually vote Democratic and do not like the current administration at all...but to blame the Bush administration for what is going on at the FCC badly misses the point. Responsibility for the current state of the FCC can (and should) be laid at the feet of several presidents and former presidents: both Bushes, Clinton, and Reagan. Possibly even Jimmy Carter, since I remember that the rumblings about deregulation of the broadcast industry started when he was still in office. I make this point because anyone who thinks that the FCC can be cleaned up simply by replacing Bush in the White House is likely to be badly disappointed.
 
Re: ed is right on the money, The FCC is weak ... weak sisters ... puppets of the Bush Administration ... actually it is more like a Fellini farce ...

> > Sadly, Ed is so right.
> >
> > The nation needs to clean house.
> >
> > The midterm elections are a place to start.
> >
> > Get rid of the corruption.
>
> While I basically agree with the sentiment in your post, the
> subject like does require comment.
>
> I usually vote Democratic and do not like the current
> administration at all...but to blame the Bush administration
> for what is going on at the FCC badly misses the point.
> Responsibility for the current state of the FCC can (and
> should) be laid at the feet of several presidents and former
> presidents: both Bushes, Clinton, and Reagan. Possibly
> even Jimmy Carter, since I remember that the rumblings about
> deregulation of the broadcast industry started when he was
> still in office. I make this point because anyone who
> thinks that the FCC can be cleaned up simply by replacing
> Bush in the White House is likely to be badly disappointed.
>
Carter was dead set against deregulation and felt public issues and candidacies should receive equal airings,and NO show, talk or otherwise, should endorse any issue or candidate without an equal opposing view aired on the same station. Something Reagan allowed to die in 1987.
 
Well, this poster apparently posts before he reads ... sort of backwards ... he posts without reading ... hmmm novel idea .... lol

> >
> > I will work to clean up the air of the stench.
> >
> > You may sit back and enjoy the stench if you like ...
> >
> > Because that is the American way.
> >
> > Freedom ... nothing like it.
> >
> > So enjoy Russ.
> >
> > Just don't try to tell me that is humor.
> >
> > In my book, that is not humor.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Tony
> >
>
> Freedom, Tony, means being able to do what you please, as
> long as you don't infringe the rights of another. If you
> don't like it, don't listen. It's called "freedom of
> choice".


Yeah, didn't I just say that.

Reread.

"Freedom ... nothing like it.

So enjoy Russ".

That is an exact quote from above.

And the original headline ... "if Russ is your thing".

Do you see it?

Can you read it?

Hey, learn to read ... and comprehend before you shoot off a goofy post.

Tony

<P ID="signature">______________
Tony Lyndell Williams</P>
 
Re: This poster wants to compare Edward R. Murrow with Russ Martin ... silly, absurd ... what do YOU think? Also Amos & Andy discussion ...

> > > Would William Paley, the man who supported and backed
> > > Edward R. Murrow, support the programming on 105.3?
> >
> > Recall that Paley had both ``highbrow'' and ``lowbrow''
> > Murrow, the latter facet of whom served as the host of the
> > fluff-filled ``Person to Person''.

> Please refrain from comparing Edward R. Murrow with Russ
> Martin.

Mr. Williams:

Please provide the specific citation in my response where
a comparison was made between Edward R. Murrow and
Russ Martin.

Thank you.

To the larger question pertaining to William Paley's possible
stance on decorum and taste relative to the profit motive
(which existed at the outset of the fledging Columbia Phonograph
Broadcasting System), Halberstam's monumental work certainly
indicates that Paley had a keen sense of what the public wanted
which explains the Tiffany Network airing such programs as
``The Beverly Hillibillies'' or even Lum 'n Abner, which may
have perpetuated negative stereotypes about rural southerners
of an Anglo-Saxon heritage.

Since William S. Paley is not available for comment at this time,
we can only conjecture where he'd draw the line of what he
would consider to be acceptable in the current era.

Some hypotheticals to mull over...

1). Would Howard Stern make the cut with Paley today?

2). AAR's Mike Malloy?

3). Paul Harvey?

4). Michael Savage?
 
My mistake ... I apologize ...

> > > > Would William Paley, the man who supported and backed
> > > > Edward R. Murrow, support the programming on 105.3?
> > >
> > > Recall that Paley had both ``highbrow'' and ``lowbrow''
> > > Murrow, the latter facet of whom served as the host of
> the
> > > fluff-filled ``Person to Person''.
>
> > Please refrain from comparing Edward R. Murrow with Russ
> > Martin.
>
> Mr. Williams:
>
> Please provide the specific citation in my response where
> a comparison was made between Edward R. Murrow and
> Russ Martin.
>
> Thank you.

Mr. Nelson,

I read the post too quickly and made a wrong conclusion.

And I accused another person of doing just the same thing.

I apologize.

You simply pointed out, correctly, that CBS aired such diverse programs with Murrow as "See it Now" as well as "Person to Person".

However, I might not agree with the characterization of "Person to Person" as fluff, especially if you compare it with programming today.

However, at the time, it was considered fluff.

Tony <P ID="signature">______________
Tony Lyndell Williams</P>
 
Re: My mistake ... I apologize ...

> > > > > Would William Paley, the man who supported and
> > > > > backed Edward R. Murrow, support the programming on 105.3?
> > > > > Recall that Paley had both ``highbrow'' and ``lowbrow''
> > > > > Murrow, the latter facet of whom served as the host
> > > > > of the fluff-filled ``Person to Person''.
> >
> > > Please refrain from comparing Edward R. Murrow with Russ Martin.
> >
> > Please provide the specific citation in my response where
> > a comparison was made between Edward R. Murrow and
> > Russ Martin.
>
> I read the post too quickly and made a wrong conclusion.
>
> And I accused another person of doing just the same thing.
>
> I apologize.

Thank you and it's appreciated. I'll also hasten to add that
you've certainly stimulated quite a vibrant discussion here on
the Dallas message board. I think there have been more posts
on this one thread than our colleagues over on the Minnesota
board have had in three years. :)

> You simply pointed out, correctly, that CBS aired such
> diverse programs with Murrow as "See it Now" as well as
> "Person to Person".
>
> However, I might not agree with the characterization of
> "Person to Person" as fluff, especially if you compare it
> with programming today.
>
> However, at the time, it was considered fluff.

Looking at the "Person to Person" programs contrasted to,
say, "Entertainment Tonight", it was indeed erudite stuff.
The film, ``Good Night and Good Luck'', had what I think
was an accurate portrayal of how Edward R. Murrow tolerated
that program as merely an expedient that allowed him to
do serious journalism.
 
Marilyn Monroe :)

> > > Please provide the specific citation in my response
> where
> > > a comparison was made between Edward R. Murrow and
> > > Russ Martin.
> >
> > I read the post too quickly and made a wrong conclusion.
> >
> > And I accused another person of doing just the same thing.
>
> >
> > I apologize.
>
> Thank you and it's appreciated. I'll also hasten to add that
>
> you've certainly stimulated quite a vibrant discussion here
> on
> the Dallas message board. I think there have been more posts
>
> on this one thread than our colleagues over on the Minnesota
>
> board have had in three years. :)
>
> > You simply pointed out, correctly, that CBS aired such
> > diverse programs with Murrow as "See it Now" as well as
> > "Person to Person".
> >
> > However, I might not agree with the characterization of
> > "Person to Person" as fluff, especially if you compare it
> > with programming today.
> >
> > However, at the time, it was considered fluff.
>
> Looking at the "Person to Person" programs contrasted to,
> say, "Entertainment Tonight", it was indeed erudite stuff.
> The film, ``Good Night and Good Luck'', had what I think
> was an accurate portrayal of how Edward R. Murrow tolerated
>
> that program as merely an expedient that allowed him to
> do serious journalism.


Bob,

Thanks for being so kind to forgive my rash statement.

You know, I have not yet seen "Good Night and Good Luck" ... just got to see that movie.

Heard the portrayal of Murrow was fantastic ... right on the money.

You are so right about "Person to Person".

As I understand, CBS, in a way, forced Murrow to do the program as part of a deal for him to do documentaries and his style of journalism.

"Harvest of Shame" is the most memorable to me.

I was not old enough to remember his WWII broadcast.

However, I was fascinated by "Person to Person".

I think he interviewed Marilyn Monroe once ...

Maybe that is the cause of my lifelong fascination with blondes :).

And now ... you know ...

The REST of the STORY lol.

Tony <P ID="signature">______________
Tony Lyndell Williams</P>
 
milquetoast radio died in 1987 too, fortunately

ALTHOUGH I do not agree with the vast number of viewpoints
aired on Err America, the left *now* has an outlet through
which they can speak, and generally, be themselves.

This is good.

I don't recall anything like the sort pre-Fairness/Nanny Doctrine
days.

No more hiding thin veil of civility, but rather, full bore, read
meat liberalism
attacting listeners and prospering (well, maybe
I'm stretching it on that last point). The right now has its balance.

Do you REALLY want to go back to full government-montiored,
dull, boring, radio?

Not I. Let the market place work in the FULL SPECTRUM of ideas
and viewpoints, including Err America.
 
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