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CHR is getting too generalized... (idea from post below)

jamesburlander

jamesburlander

I'm going to chime in, but addressing all Top 40 stations.

I've said it in the past and I'll say it now - we're forgetting all the classics...and dance. CHR is just getting more and more generalized.

What's happening to programming? The reason we have Program Directors is to give stations their own unique sound. If I could program, sure I'd play the hell out all of today's hits... but once or twice an hour I'd also throw in one of these classics:

Mark Morrison - Return Of The Mack
DJ Sanny - Heaven
En Vogue - Don't Let Go
Usher - You Make Me Wanna
Third Eye Blind - Semi-Charmed Life
Rockell - In A Dream
Robyn - Do You Know What It Takes
Darude - Sandstorm
Robyn - Show Me Love
Ginuwine - Pony
Jimmy Ray - Jimmy Ray
LL Cool J - Father
Smash Mouth - All Star
TLC - No Scrubs
Lenny Kravitz - Fly Away
Blaque - Like I Do
K-Ci & JoJo - All My Life
Mase - Feel So Good
INOJ - Love You Down
Allure & 112 - All Cried Out (Save more for Overnights)

In my opinion... just scheduling TWO of these songs an hour would help justify a real CHR/Top 40 station. If I had a chance to program, I'd put a nice "classic" right at the bottom of the hour, and then around :57 also - that way it can be dropped if neccessary. I'll be turning 18 soon, and hopefully will be landing a job within radio to get my start.

Now I know many of you would say that you'd never play "(pick song from list above)" on your station... but, I made that list according to the market I'm in... find your niche - what "sound" does it have?

I know some stations are limited to what corporate wants them to do... but, listening online to many stations - they're sounding a LOT a like... and forgetting about what they were back in 2000 and earlier... radio has changed a LOT since then; I want to take it back - and keep it good.
 
> I'm going to chime in, but addressing all Top 40 stations.
>
> I've said it in the past and I'll say it now - we're
> forgetting all the classics...and dance. CHR is just
> getting more and more generalized.
>
> What's happening to programming? The reason we have Program
> Directors is to give stations their own unique sound. If I
> could program, sure I'd play the hell out all of today's
> hits... but once or twice an hour I'd also throw in one of
> these classics:
>
> Mark Morrison - Return Of The Mack
> DJ Sanny - Heaven
> En Vogue - Don't Let Go
> Usher - You Make Me Wanna
> Third Eye Blind - Semi-Charmed Life
> Rockell - In A Dream
> Robyn - Do You Know What It Takes
> Darude - Sandstorm
> Robyn - Show Me Love
> Ginuwine - Pony
> Jimmy Ray - Jimmy Ray
> LL Cool J - Father
> Smash Mouth - All Star
> TLC - No Scrubs
> Lenny Kravitz - Fly Away
> Blaque - Like I Do
Actually, that would be "808."
> K-Ci & JoJo - All My Life
> Mase - Feel So Good
> INOJ - Love You Down
> Allure & 112 - All Cried Out (Save more for Overnights)
>
> In my opinion... just scheduling TWO of these songs an hour
> would help justify a real CHR/Top 40 station. If I had a
> chance to program, I'd put a nice "classic" right at the
> bottom of the hour, and then around :57 also - that way it
> can be dropped if neccessary. I'll be turning 18 soon, and
> hopefully will be landing a job within radio to get my
> start.
>
> Now I know many of you would say that you'd never play
> "(pick song from list above)" on your station... but, I made
> that list according to the market I'm in... find your niche
> - what "sound" does it have?
>
> I know some stations are limited to what corporate wants
> them to do... but, listening online to many stations -
> they're sounding a LOT a like... and forgetting about what
> they were back in 2000 and earlier... radio has changed a
> LOT since then; I want to take it back - and keep it good.
>
A few more:
Goo Goo Dolls "Iris" and "Slide"
Green Day "Good Riddance (Time Of Your Life)" and "When I Come Around"
Notorious B.I.G. "Mo Money Mo Problems"
TLC "Creep" and "Waterfalls"
Lauryn Hill "Doo Wop (That Thing)"
Mary J. Blige "Family Affair"
Tonic "If You Could Only See"
No Doubt "Don't Speak"
Blink 182 "All The Small Things"
Alice Deejay "Better Off Alone"
Sonique "It Feels So Good"
Mariah Carey "Always Be My Baby"
Coolio "Gangsta's Paradise"
Shaggy "Angel"<P ID="signature">______________
Can't we all just get along?</P>
 
> I'm going to chime in, but addressing all Top 40 stations.
>
> I've said it in the past and I'll say it now - we're
> forgetting all the classics...and dance. CHR is just
> getting more and more generalized.
>
> What's happening to programming? The reason we have Program
> Directors is to give stations their own unique sound. If I
> could program, sure I'd play the hell out all of today's
> hits... but once or twice an hour I'd also throw in one of
> these classics:
>
> Mark Morrison - Return Of The Mack---Yes
> DJ Sanny - Heaven---yes
> En Vogue - Don't Let Go---yes
> Usher - You Make Me Wanna--- It still gets played
> Third Eye Blind - Semi-Charmed Life--- yes
> Rockell - In A Dream---yes
> Robyn - Do You Know What It Takes--- If your radio Disney
> Darude - Sandstorm---yes
> Robyn - Show Me Love---If your radio Disney
> Ginuwine - Pony---yes
> Jimmy Ray - Jimmy Ray---I dont think anyone else remebers that song
> LL Cool J - Father--- Never heard it
> Smash Mouth - All Star--- Hot AC still plays this
> TLC - No Scrubs--- Burned out
> Lenny Kravitz - Fly Away--- Hot Ac/ Maybe
> Blaque - Like I Do--- I think you mean the (808) Remix...Yes
> K-Ci & JoJo - All My Life---Its a yawner,,,maybe for late nights
> Mase - Feel So Good--- Rhythmic leaning CHRs yes
> INOJ - Love You Down--- YES
> Allure & 112 - All Cried Out (Save more for Overnights)-----Agreed
>
> In my opinion... just scheduling TWO of these songs an hour
> would help justify a real CHR/Top 40 station. If I had a
> chance to program, I'd put a nice "classic" right at the
> bottom of the hour, and then around :57 also - that way it
> can be dropped if neccessary. I'll be turning 18 soon, and
> hopefully will be landing a job within radio to get my
> start.
>
> Now I know many of you would say that you'd never play
> "(pick song from list above)" on your station... but, I made
> that list according to the market I'm in... find your niche
> - what "sound" does it have?
>
> I know some stations are limited to what corporate wants
> them to do... but, listening online to many stations -
> they're sounding a LOT a like... and forgetting about what
> they were back in 2000 and earlier... radio has changed a
> LOT since then; I want to take it back - and keep it good.
>
 
> > I'm going to chime in, but addressing all Top 40 stations.
>
> >
> > I've said it in the past and I'll say it now - we're
> > forgetting all the classics...and dance. CHR is just
> > getting more and more generalized.
> >
> > What's happening to programming? The reason we have
> Program
> > Directors is to give stations their own unique sound. If
> I
> > could program, sure I'd play the hell out all of today's
> > hits... but once or twice an hour I'd also throw in one of
>
> > these classics:
> >
> > Mark Morrison - Return Of The Mack
> > DJ Sanny - Heaven
> > En Vogue - Don't Let Go
> > Usher - You Make Me Wanna
> > Third Eye Blind - Semi-Charmed Life
> > Rockell - In A Dream
> > Robyn - Do You Know What It Takes
> > Darude - Sandstorm
> > Robyn - Show Me Love
> > Ginuwine - Pony
> > Jimmy Ray - Jimmy Ray
> > LL Cool J - Father
> > Smash Mouth - All Star
> > TLC - No Scrubs
> > Lenny Kravitz - Fly Away
> > Blaque - Like I Do
> Actually, that would be "808."
> > K-Ci & JoJo - All My Life
> > Mase - Feel So Good
> > INOJ - Love You Down
> > Allure & 112 - All Cried Out (Save more for Overnights)
> >
> > In my opinion... just scheduling TWO of these songs an
> hour
> > would help justify a real CHR/Top 40 station. If I had a
> > chance to program, I'd put a nice "classic" right at the
> > bottom of the hour, and then around :57 also - that way it
>
> > can be dropped if neccessary. I'll be turning 18 soon,
> and
> > hopefully will be landing a job within radio to get my
> > start.
> >
> > Now I know many of you would say that you'd never play
> > "(pick song from list above)" on your station... but, I
> made
> > that list according to the market I'm in... find your
> niche
> > - what "sound" does it have?
> >
> > I know some stations are limited to what corporate wants
> > them to do... but, listening online to many stations -
> > they're sounding a LOT a like... and forgetting about what
>
> > they were back in 2000 and earlier... radio has changed a
> > LOT since then; I want to take it back - and keep it good.
>
> >
> A few more:
> Goo Goo Dolls "Iris" and "Slide"
> Green Day "Good Riddance (Time Of Your Life)" and "When I
> Come Around"
> Notorious B.I.G. "Mo Money Mo Problems"
> TLC "Creep" and "Waterfalls"
> Lauryn Hill "Doo Wop (That Thing)"
> Mary J. Blige "Family Affair"
> Tonic "If You Could Only See"
> No Doubt "Don't Speak"
> Blink 182 "All The Small Things"
> Alice Deejay "Better Off Alone"
> Sonique "It Feels So Good"
> Mariah Carey "Always Be My Baby"
> Coolio "Gangsta's Paradise"
> Shaggy "Angel"
>
I still hear most of those, except for Mariah Carey, Sonique, and Alice Deejay
 
> > > I'm going to chime in, but addressing all Top 40
> stations.
> >
> > >
> > > I've said it in the past and I'll say it now - we're
> > > forgetting all the classics...and dance. CHR is just
> > > getting more and more generalized.
> > >
> > > What's happening to programming? The reason we have
> > Program
> > > Directors is to give stations their own unique sound.
> If
> > I
> > > could program, sure I'd play the hell out all of today's
>
> > > hits... but once or twice an hour I'd also throw in one
> of
> >
> > > these classics:
> > >
> > > Mark Morrison - Return Of The Mack
> > > DJ Sanny - Heaven
> > > En Vogue - Don't Let Go
> > > Usher - You Make Me Wanna
> > > Third Eye Blind - Semi-Charmed Life
> > > Rockell - In A Dream
> > > Robyn - Do You Know What It Takes
> > > Darude - Sandstorm
> > > Robyn - Show Me Love
> > > Ginuwine - Pony
> > > Jimmy Ray - Jimmy Ray
> > > LL Cool J - Father
> > > Smash Mouth - All Star
> > > TLC - No Scrubs
> > > Lenny Kravitz - Fly Away
> > > Blaque - Like I Do
> > Actually, that would be "808."
> > > K-Ci & JoJo - All My Life
> > > Mase - Feel So Good
> > > INOJ - Love You Down
> > > Allure & 112 - All Cried Out (Save more for Overnights)
> > >
> > > In my opinion... just scheduling TWO of these songs an
> > hour
> > > would help justify a real CHR/Top 40 station. If I had
> a
> > > chance to program, I'd put a nice "classic" right at the
>
> > > bottom of the hour, and then around :57 also - that way
> it
> >
> > > can be dropped if neccessary. I'll be turning 18 soon,
> > and
> > > hopefully will be landing a job within radio to get my
> > > start.
> > >
> > > Now I know many of you would say that you'd never play
> > > "(pick song from list above)" on your station... but, I
> > made
> > > that list according to the market I'm in... find your
> > niche
> > > - what "sound" does it have?
> > >
> > > I know some stations are limited to what corporate wants
>
> > > them to do... but, listening online to many stations -
> > > they're sounding a LOT a like... and forgetting about
> what
> >
> > > they were back in 2000 and earlier... radio has changed
> a
> > > LOT since then; I want to take it back - and keep it
> good.
> >
> > >
> > A few more:
> > Goo Goo Dolls "Iris" and "Slide"
> > Green Day "Good Riddance (Time Of Your Life)" and "When I
> > Come Around"
> > Notorious B.I.G. "Mo Money Mo Problems"
> > TLC "Creep" and "Waterfalls"
> > Lauryn Hill "Doo Wop (That Thing)"
> > Mary J. Blige "Family Affair"
> > Tonic "If You Could Only See"
> > No Doubt "Don't Speak"
> > Blink 182 "All The Small Things"
> > Alice Deejay "Better Off Alone"
> > Sonique "It Feels So Good"
> > Mariah Carey "Always Be My Baby"
> > Coolio "Gangsta's Paradise"
> > Shaggy "Angel"
> >
> I still hear most of those, except for Mariah Carey,
> Sonique, and Alice Deejay
>
Lets not forget Lit - My Own Worst Enemy


and maybe

Citizen King - Better Days
Goo Goo Dolls - Black Balloon
Backstreet Boys - Larger Then Life, I Want It That Way and All I Have To Give
Creed - Higher


several CHRs still throw Lit on occationally from what I heard on my travels. I think it has a really good sound to it. Lots of the songs listed here remind me of the late 90s when CHR kicked total ass.<P ID="signature">______________

AIM: JeremyA1069</P>
 
> several CHRs still throw Lit on occationally from what I
> heard on my travels. I think it has a really good sound to
> it. Lots of the songs listed here remind me of the late 90s
> when CHR kicked total ass.

And you're right - CHR kicked total ass... I didn't include BSB, or Goo Goo Dolls on my list fearing people would shut it out as belonging more on Hot-AC stations now... But yes, most of my list came from 1997-99 ...I was 12 years old... and I can still hear those tunes in my head...Remember Merril Bainbridge's "Mouth" ? - that one has always stuck with me also.

Well I'm glad to see that many people agree with me - and it shows (myself being only 17) - that you don't need years of experience to know how to schedule music... Too bad there's so many legalities, and so much cost, to start an LPFM, or I'd have one up in an instant.
 
> > several CHRs still throw Lit on occationally from what I
> > heard on my travels. I think it has a really good sound to
>
> > it. Lots of the songs listed here remind me of the late
> 90s
> > when CHR kicked total ass.
>
> And you're right - CHR kicked total ass... I didn't include
> BSB, or Goo Goo Dolls on my list fearing people would shut
> it out as belonging more on Hot-AC stations now... But yes,
> most of my list came from 1997-99 ...I was 12 years old...
> and I can still hear those tunes in my head...Remember
> Merril Bainbridge's "Mouth" ? - that one has always stuck
> with me also.
>
I just heard the Merril Bainbridge song for the first time in years a couple weeks ago. Awesome to hear again. I was only 9 back in 1995-1996 and can clearly remember hearing it on the local Hot AC stations. We had no CHR until 1998.<P ID="signature">______________

AIM: JeremyA1069</P>
 
> and maybe
>
> Citizen King - Better Days
> Goo Goo Dolls - Black Balloon
> Backstreet Boys - Larger Then Life, I Want It That Way and
> All I Have To Give
> Creed - Higher

These are all Hot AC titles. Pick either CHR or HAC...can't be both. If I had to pick one BSB, it would be neither of the ones you listed and I'd feature it as some sort of 'guilty pleasure'-type of thing.

> several CHRs still throw Lit on occationally from what I
> heard on my travels. I think it has a really good sound to
> it. Lots of the songs listed here remind me of the late 90s
> when CHR kicked total ass.

Lit is a great gold to spike in on occasion.
 
> > > > I'm going to chime in, but addressing all Top 40
> > stations.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I've said it in the past and I'll say it now - we're
> > > > forgetting all the classics...and dance. CHR is just
> > > > getting more and more generalized.
> > > >
> > > > What's happening to programming? The reason we have
> > > Program
> > > > Directors is to give stations their own unique sound.
>
> > If
> > > I
> > > > could program, sure I'd play the hell out all of
> today's
> >
> > > > hits... but once or twice an hour I'd also throw in
> one
> > of
> > >
> > > > these classics:
> > > >
> > > > Mark Morrison - Return Of The Mack
> > > > DJ Sanny - Heaven
> > > > En Vogue - Don't Let Go
> > > > Usher - You Make Me Wanna
> > > > Third Eye Blind - Semi-Charmed Life
> > > > Rockell - In A Dream
> > > > Robyn - Do You Know What It Takes
> > > > Darude - Sandstorm
> > > > Robyn - Show Me Love
> > > > Ginuwine - Pony
> > > > Jimmy Ray - Jimmy Ray
> > > > LL Cool J - Father
> > > > Smash Mouth - All Star
> > > > TLC - No Scrubs
> > > > Lenny Kravitz - Fly Away
> > > > Blaque - Like I Do
> > > Actually, that would be "808."
> > > > K-Ci & JoJo - All My Life
> > > > Mase - Feel So Good
> > > > INOJ - Love You Down
> > > > Allure & 112 - All Cried Out (Save more for
> Overnights)
> > > >
> > > > In my opinion... just scheduling TWO of these songs an
>
> > > hour
> > > > would help justify a real CHR/Top 40 station. If I
> had
> > a
> > > > chance to program, I'd put a nice "classic" right at
> the
> >
> > > > bottom of the hour, and then around :57 also - that
> way
> > it
> > >
> > > > can be dropped if neccessary. I'll be turning 18
> soon,
> > > and
> > > > hopefully will be landing a job within radio to get my
>
> > > > start.
> > > >
> > > > Now I know many of you would say that you'd never play
>
> > > > "(pick song from list above)" on your station... but,
> I
> > > made
> > > > that list according to the market I'm in... find your
> > > niche
> > > > - what "sound" does it have?
> > > >
> > > > I know some stations are limited to what corporate
> wants
> >
> > > > them to do... but, listening online to many stations -
>
> > > > they're sounding a LOT a like... and forgetting about
> > what
> > >
> > > > they were back in 2000 and earlier... radio has
> changed
> > a
> > > > LOT since then; I want to take it back - and keep it
> > good.
> > >
> > > >
> > > A few more:
> > > Goo Goo Dolls "Iris" and "Slide"
> > > Green Day "Good Riddance (Time Of Your Life)" and "When
> I
> > > Come Around"
> > > Notorious B.I.G. "Mo Money Mo Problems"
> > > TLC "Creep" and "Waterfalls"
> > > Lauryn Hill "Doo Wop (That Thing)"
> > > Mary J. Blige "Family Affair"
> > > Tonic "If You Could Only See"
> > > No Doubt "Don't Speak"
> > > Blink 182 "All The Small Things"
> > > Alice Deejay "Better Off Alone"
> > > Sonique "It Feels So Good"
> > > Mariah Carey "Always Be My Baby"
> > > Coolio "Gangsta's Paradise"
> > > Shaggy "Angel"
> > >
> > I still hear most of those, except for Mariah Carey,
> > Sonique, and Alice Deejay
> >
> Lets not forget Lit - My Own Worst Enemy
>
>
> and maybe
>
> Citizen King - Better Days
> Goo Goo Dolls - Black Balloon
> Backstreet Boys - Larger Then Life, I Want It That Way and
> All I Have To Give
> Creed - Higher
>
>
> several CHRs still throw Lit on occationally from what I
> heard on my travels. I think it has a really good sound to
> it. Lots of the songs listed here remind me of the late 90s
> when CHR kicked total ass.
>

Also, I forgot these:
Aaliyah "Are You That Somebody" and "Try Again"
Brandy "Have You Ever"
Fugees "Killing Me Softly"
Ghost Town DJs "My Boo"
Natalie Imbruglia "Torn"
Next "Too Close"<P ID="signature">______________
Can't we all just get along?</p>
 
> Mark Morrison - Return Of The Mack
Still here it quite a bit

> DJ Sanny - Heaven
You mean "Sammy"? :)

> En Vogue - Don't Let Go
Good one.

> Usher - You Make Me Wanna
I still here this often.

> Third Eye Blind - Semi-Charmed Life
Nope...this is Hot AC all the way

> Rockell - In A Dream
Ehh...I can make room for something better.

> Robyn - Do You Know What It Takes
Nope. This is more Hot AC

> Darude - Sandstorm
Aww hell yeah!

> Robyn - Show Me Love
MAYBE this tune...I would have to see what other stations are in the market, their demo, etc. before determining whether this goes in or not.

> Ginuwine - Pony
Still here it often.

> Jimmy Ray - Jimmy Ray
No way...maybe as a novelty type thing...play it and put it away!

> LL Cool J - Father
Stiff. Out of all of LL's songs, there are several more better ones...Loungin (Remix), Doin' It, Hey Lover (w/Boyz II Men)

> Smash Mouth - All Star
No way...Hot AC all the way

> TLC - No Scrubs
I still hear it quite a bit, but I'd go deeper into the library...some of their first stuff "What About Your Friends", "Baby Baby Baby" as well. Plus with "No Scrubs", I see no reason why Hot AC's can't be spinning this late afternoon/nights/weekends.

> Lenny Kravitz - Fly Away
No way...Hot AC all the way

> Blaque - Like I Do
It's "808 (Remix)" -- great gold.

> K-Ci & JoJo - All My Life
Yes.

> Mase - Feel So Good
Possibly...

> INOJ - Love You Down
Yes.

> Allure & 112 - All Cried Out (Save more for Overnights)
Again...another one of those "novelty" type tunes...spike it in once for something and put it away.

> In my opinion... just scheduling TWO of these songs an hour
> would help justify a real CHR/Top 40 station. If I had a
> chance to program, I'd put a nice "classic" right at the
> bottom of the hour, and then around :57 also - that way it
> can be dropped if neccessary. I'll be turning 18 soon, and
> hopefully will be landing a job within radio to get my
> start.

> Now I know many of you would say that you'd never play
> "(pick song from list above)" on your station... but, I made
> that list according to the market I'm in... find your niche
> - what "sound" does it have?
>
> I know some stations are limited to what corporate wants
> them to do... but, listening online to many stations -
> they're sounding a LOT a like... and forgetting about what
> they were back in 2000 and earlier... radio has changed a
> LOT since then; I want to take it back - and keep it good.

You really want to watch your turnover on these songs. You don't want to turn them over too often to where the "oh wow!" factor of these songs are gone from your P1's. Plus, I am not a fan of those PD's who use the gold titles as their drop songs. If you're the only station in the market that would play "Come Baby Come" or "Rump Shaker", then give the tune its' 4 minutes...after all, you have it in your active gold for a reason! Spin it! I'd sacrifice a select recurrent over a gold.
 
> > > > > I'm going to chime in, but addressing all Top 40
> > > stations.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I've said it in the past and I'll say it now - we're
>
> > > > > forgetting all the classics...and dance. CHR is
> just
> > > > > getting more and more generalized.
> > > > >
> > > > > What's happening to programming? The reason we have
>
> > > > Program
> > > > > Directors is to give stations their own unique
> sound.
> >
> > > If
> > > > I
> > > > > could program, sure I'd play the hell out all of
> > today's
> > >
> > > > > hits... but once or twice an hour I'd also throw in
> > one
> > > of
> > > >
> > > > > these classics:
> > > > >
> > > > > Mark Morrison - Return Of The Mack
> > > > > DJ Sanny - Heaven
> > > > > En Vogue - Don't Let Go
> > > > > Usher - You Make Me Wanna
> > > > > Third Eye Blind - Semi-Charmed Life
> > > > > Rockell - In A Dream
> > > > > Robyn - Do You Know What It Takes
> > > > > Darude - Sandstorm
> > > > > Robyn - Show Me Love
> > > > > Ginuwine - Pony
> > > > > Jimmy Ray - Jimmy Ray
> > > > > LL Cool J - Father
> > > > > Smash Mouth - All Star
> > > > > TLC - No Scrubs
> > > > > Lenny Kravitz - Fly Away
> > > > > Blaque - Like I Do
> > > > Actually, that would be "808."
> > > > > K-Ci & JoJo - All My Life
> > > > > Mase - Feel So Good
> > > > > INOJ - Love You Down
> > > > > Allure & 112 - All Cried Out (Save more for
> > Overnights)
> > > > >
> > > > > In my opinion... just scheduling TWO of these songs
> an
> >
> > > > hour
> > > > > would help justify a real CHR/Top 40 station. If I
> > had
> > > a
> > > > > chance to program, I'd put a nice "classic" right at
>
> > the
> > >
> > > > > bottom of the hour, and then around :57 also - that
> > way
> > > it
> > > >
> > > > > can be dropped if neccessary. I'll be turning 18
> > soon,
> > > > and
> > > > > hopefully will be landing a job within radio to get
> my
> >
> > > > > start.
> > > > >
> > > > > Now I know many of you would say that you'd never
> play
> >
> > > > > "(pick song from list above)" on your station...
> but,
> > I
> > > > made
> > > > > that list according to the market I'm in... find
> your
> > > > niche
> > > > > - what "sound" does it have?
> > > > >
> > > > > I know some stations are limited to what corporate
> > wants
> > >
> > > > > them to do... but, listening online to many stations
> -
> >
> > > > > they're sounding a LOT a like... and forgetting
> about
> > > what
> > > >
> > > > > they were back in 2000 and earlier... radio has
> > changed
> > > a
> > > > > LOT since then; I want to take it back - and keep it
>
> > > good.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > A few more:
> > > > Goo Goo Dolls "Iris" and "Slide"
> > > > Green Day "Good Riddance (Time Of Your Life)" and
> "When
> > I
> > > > Come Around"
> > > > Notorious B.I.G. "Mo Money Mo Problems"
> > > > TLC "Creep" and "Waterfalls"
> > > > Lauryn Hill "Doo Wop (That Thing)"
> > > > Mary J. Blige "Family Affair"
> > > > Tonic "If You Could Only See"
> > > > No Doubt "Don't Speak"
> > > > Blink 182 "All The Small Things"
> > > > Alice Deejay "Better Off Alone"
> > > > Sonique "It Feels So Good"
> > > > Mariah Carey "Always Be My Baby"
> > > > Coolio "Gangsta's Paradise"
> > > > Shaggy "Angel"
> > > >
> > > I still hear most of those, except for Mariah Carey,
> > > Sonique, and Alice Deejay
> > >
> > Lets not forget Lit - My Own Worst Enemy
> >
> >
> > and maybe
> >
> > Citizen King - Better Days
> > Goo Goo Dolls - Black Balloon
> > Backstreet Boys - Larger Then Life, I Want It That Way and
>
> > All I Have To Give
> > Creed - Higher
> >
> >
> > several CHRs still throw Lit on occationally from what I
> > heard on my travels. I think it has a really good sound to
>
> > it. Lots of the songs listed here remind me of the late
> 90s
> > when CHR kicked total ass.
> >
>
> Also, I forgot these:
> Aaliyah "Are You That Somebody" and "Try Again"
> Brandy "Have You Ever"
> Fugees "Killing Me Softly"
> Ghost Town DJs "My Boo"
> Natalie Imbruglia "Torn"
> Next "Too Close"
>
Great list, I would play all of those.
 
Wanna talk gold tracks...LETS GO WAAAAAAAAAAY BACK

> I'm going to chime in, but addressing all Top 40 stations.
>
> I've said it in the past and I'll say it now - we're
> forgetting all the classics...and dance. CHR is just
> getting more and more generalized.
>
> What's happening to programming? The reason we have Program
> Directors is to give stations their own unique sound. If I
> could program, sure I'd play the hell out all of today's
> hits... but once or twice an hour I'd also throw in one of
> these classics:
>
> Mark Morrison - Return Of The Mack
> DJ Sanny - Heaven
> En Vogue - Don't Let Go
> Usher - You Make Me Wanna
> Third Eye Blind - Semi-Charmed Life
> Rockell - In A Dream
> Robyn - Do You Know What It Takes
> Darude - Sandstorm
> Robyn - Show Me Love
> Ginuwine - Pony
> Jimmy Ray - Jimmy Ray
> LL Cool J - Father
> Smash Mouth - All Star
> TLC - No Scrubs
> Lenny Kravitz - Fly Away
> Blaque - Like I Do
> K-Ci & JoJo - All My Life
> Mase - Feel So Good
> INOJ - Love You Down
> Allure & 112 - All Cried Out (Save more for Overnights)
>
> In my opinion... just scheduling TWO of these songs an hour
> would help justify a real CHR/Top 40 station. If I had a
> chance to program, I'd put a nice "classic" right at the
> bottom of the hour, and then around :57 also - that way it
> can be dropped if neccessary. I'll be turning 18 soon, and
> hopefully will be landing a job within radio to get my
> start.
>
> Now I know many of you would say that you'd never play
> "(pick song from list above)" on your station... but, I made
> that list according to the market I'm in... find your niche
> - what "sound" does it have?
>
> I know some stations are limited to what corporate wants
> them to do... but, listening online to many stations -
> they're sounding a LOT a like... and forgetting about what
> they were back in 2000 and earlier... radio has changed a
> LOT since then; I want to take it back - and keep it good.
>
Captain Hollywood Project-More and More/ Firehouse-Dont treat me bad/ Tone tone tone-If I had no loot/ Jade-Dont walk Away Seal-Prayer for the dying Erasure-Always Sophie B hawkins-Damn I wish I was your lover Paula Abdule-Promise of a new day Nelson-After the Rain Maddona-RAIN Stereo MCs-Step it up Pm.Dawn-Looking through patient eyes Color me Badd-I wanna Sex you up George Micheal--Too Funky Snap-Rhythm is a dancer Tracey Spencer-this House Black box-Strike it up Tara Kemp-Hold you tight New Order-Regret Timmy T-One More Try Enigma-Sadness Part 2 Tina Turner-I dont wanna Fight Ub40-Cant help falling in love with you Queensryche-silent lucidity Sunscreem-Love u More & Pressure Us Inner Circle-Sweat ala la la la long Oasis-Champaign supernova---Wonderwall--& Dont look back in anger Primitive Radio Gods--Standing outside a broken phone booth Dino-Ooh Child & I like it Bell Biv Devoe--Poison & Do me Bobby Brown-Humpin around 4 non blondes-Whats Up Janet Jackson FT Luther Vandrose-The Best things in life are free Ce Ce Peniston--Keep on walkin Edwyn Collins- A girl like you Lou Bega-Mambo number 5 O.M.C--How Bizzare Okay, all you younger kids are looking at this list, and saying What the Crap is all this....Thats okay, because My station (WOULD) Lean toward a slightly older audience with a 90s and now type format, CHR not HOT AC. But very little repetition on the gold and guilty pleasures, thats why the playlist will be huge. All of you OLD MEN know these songs, because if im 24 and I know them............You know them too.........Dont LIE....<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by midwestclubber on 09/20/05 01:13 AM.</FONT></P>
 
Sorry so sloppy. I tried to make em look nice??

> > I'm going to chime in, but addressing all Top 40 stations.
>
> >
> > I've said it in the past and I'll say it now - we're
> > forgetting all the classics...and dance. CHR is just
> > getting more and more generalized.
> >
> > What's happening to programming? The reason we have
> Program
> > Directors is to give stations their own unique sound. If
> I
> > could program, sure I'd play the hell out all of today's
> > hits... but once or twice an hour I'd also throw in one of
>
> > these classics:
> >
> > Mark Morrison - Return Of The Mack
> > DJ Sanny - Heaven
> > En Vogue - Don't Let Go
> > Usher - You Make Me Wanna
> > Third Eye Blind - Semi-Charmed Life
> > Rockell - In A Dream
> > Robyn - Do You Know What It Takes
> > Darude - Sandstorm
> > Robyn - Show Me Love
> > Ginuwine - Pony
> > Jimmy Ray - Jimmy Ray
> > LL Cool J - Father
> > Smash Mouth - All Star
> > TLC - No Scrubs
> > Lenny Kravitz - Fly Away
> > Blaque - Like I Do
> > K-Ci & JoJo - All My Life
> > Mase - Feel So Good
> > INOJ - Love You Down
> > Allure & 112 - All Cried Out (Save more for Overnights)
> >
> > In my opinion... just scheduling TWO of these songs an
> hour
> > would help justify a real CHR/Top 40 station. If I had a
> > chance to program, I'd put a nice "classic" right at the
> > bottom of the hour, and then around :57 also - that way it
>
> > can be dropped if neccessary. I'll be turning 18 soon,
> and
> > hopefully will be landing a job within radio to get my
> > start.
> >
> > Now I know many of you would say that you'd never play
> > "(pick song from list above)" on your station... but, I
> made
> > that list according to the market I'm in... find your
> niche
> > - what "sound" does it have?
> >
> > I know some stations are limited to what corporate wants
> > them to do... but, listening online to many stations -
> > they're sounding a LOT a like... and forgetting about what
>
> > they were back in 2000 and earlier... radio has changed a
> > LOT since then; I want to take it back - and keep it good.
>
> >
> Captain Hollywood Project-More and More/
> Firehouse-Dont treat me bad/
> Tone tone tone-If I
> had no loot/
> Jade-Dont walk Away
> Seal-Prayer for the dying
> Erasure-Always
>
> Sophie B hawkins-Damn I wish I was your lover
> Paula Abdule-Promise of a new day
> Nelson-After the Rain
>
> Maddona-RAIN
> Stereo MCs-Step it up
> Pm.Dawn-Looking
> through patient eyes
> Color me Badd-I wanna Sex you up
> George Micheal--Too Funky
> Snap-Rhythm is a
> dancer
> Tracey Spencer-this House
> Black box-Strike it up
> Tara Kemp-Hold you
> tight
> New Order-Regret
> Timmy T-One More Try
> Enigma-Sadness Part 2
>
> Tina Turner-I dont wanna Fight
> Ub40-Cant help falling in love with you
> Queensryche-silent
> lucidity
> Sunscreem-Love u More & Pressure Us
> Inner Circle-Sweat ala la la la long
> Oasis-Champaign
> supernova---Wonderwall--& Dont look back in anger
> Primitive Radio Gods--Standing outside a broken phone
> booth Dino-Ooh Child & I like it
> Bell Biv
> Devoe--Poison & Do me
> Bobby Brown-Humpin around
> 4 non blondes-Whats Up
> Janet
> Jackson FT Luther Vandrose-The Best things in life are free
> Ce Ce Peniston--Keep on walkin
> Edwyn Collins- A girl like
> you Lou
> Bega-Mambo number 5
> O.M.C--How Bizzare
> Okay, all you younger kids are
> looking at this list, and saying What the Crap is all
> this....Thats okay, because My station (WOULD) Lean toward a
> slightly older audience with a 90s and now type format, CHR
> not HOT AC. But very little repetition on the gold and
> guilty pleasures, thats why the playlist will be huge. All
> of you OLD MEN know these songs, because if im 24 and I know
> them............You know them too.........Dont LIE....
>
 
> > Mark Morrison - Return Of The Mack
WZOK Rockford
>
> > DJ Sanny - Heaven
WXSS Milwaukee
>
> > En Vogue - Don't Let Go
WKSC Chicago played it in 2001.
>
> > Usher - You Make Me Wanna
WKSC WXSS
>
> > Third Eye Blind - Semi-Charmed Life
Love this one as an occationall gold
>
> > Rockell - In A Dream
> Ehh...I can make room for something better.
>
> > Robyn - Do You Know What It Takes
VERY VERY VERY good song. Takes me way back. 1997
> > Darude - Sandstorm
I'm starting to feel all 2001
> > Robyn - Show Me Love
Love the late 90s
>
> > Ginuwine - Pony
WKSC and WXSS
>
> > Jimmy Ray - Jimmy Ray
WYCO Wausau, WI played it when they were CHR. Now its Classic Rock
>

>
> > Smash Mouth - All Star
WZEE Madison
> > TLC - No Scrubs
Everywhre still
> > Lenny Kravitz - Fly Away
WKSC Chicago played it in 2001
>
> > Blaque - Like I Do
WKSC Chicago plays this like a Current. The 808 remix. In winter 2002 I sat up listening and heard it once every other hour. I'm sick of it.
>
> > K-Ci & JoJo - All My Life
Lots play it
>
> > Mase - Feel So Good
> Possibly...
>
> > INOJ - Love You Down
WKSC Chicago and WXSS Milwaukee
>
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AIM: JeremyA1069</P>
 
Re: here's a couple that just came to mind

Red Hot Chilli Peppers - Soul To Squeeze (1993)
Gorillaz - Clint Eastwood (2001)<P ID="signature">______________

AIM: JeremyA1069</P>
 
The golds your mentioning are all fantastic, but what's your reasoning behind them. Yes they were big in their heyday...sure some will have the wow factor for a few spins, but how many are you thinking of simply because they happened to have been PERSONAL favorites. I hear many different recurrents on CHR's throughout the country and imo they vary greatly and I often wonder if it was teh PD who wanted to create a buzz for a minute, but what's the cost of playing these songs more than 30x?
 
> The golds your mentioning are all fantastic, but what's your
> reasoning behind them. Yes they were big in their
> heyday...sure some will have the wow factor for a few spins,
> but how many are you thinking of simply because they
> happened to have been PERSONAL favorites. I hear many
> different recurrents on CHR's throughout the country and imo
> they vary greatly and I often wonder if it was teh PD who
> wanted to create a buzz for a minute, but what's the cost of
> playing these songs more than 30x?

All of the ones I listed happen to be my personal favorites, however, they would also definitley fit into the market I'm in, Tampa. When people think of Florida - an optismistic view would think sun, water, waves, beaches...ect... a "tropical" environment - thus, you put "tropical-sounding" gold in it... which would be more "Pop" music, and less of RUN DMC type of classics... each market responds differently - I think Tampa would lean towards the songs I have listed. Example: A well-rotated Gold in Tampa is Rockell's "In a Dream" - but, in Detroit - the market may not respond well to dance, so they play whatever fits their niche...

Sorry if there's any rambling sentences above; just woke up.
 
> I still hear most of those, except for Mariah Carey,
> Sonique, and Alice Deejay
>

Zone 1061 Norfolk, plays Alice Deejay often
 
You would not play these old songs 30x a week, u would play "all the hits" and not "forget the hits." You would play Lit, not every day, maybe only once a week, but you would play other old songs as well. I say 2 songs an hour. It will bring more variety and ppl would want to stay longer on the radio instead of 2 hrs later the same playlist is being shot back at you, and listeners tune out. Sure some of those songs mentioned maybe HOT AC now, but then it was CHR/pop ....so why cannot still play them? Our audience is older cause we keept some of them from the 90s, and the young would appreciate it 2, if they hear it enough.


> > The golds your mentioning are all fantastic, but what's
> your
> > reasoning behind them. Yes they were big in their
> > heyday...sure some will have the wow factor for a few
> spins,
> > but how many are you thinking of simply because they
> > happened to have been PERSONAL favorites. I hear many
> > different recurrents on CHR's throughout the country and
> imo
> > they vary greatly and I often wonder if it was teh PD who
> > wanted to create a buzz for a minute, but what's the cost
> of
> > playing these songs more than 30x?
>
> All of the ones I listed happen to be my personal favorites,
> however, they would also definitley fit into the market I'm
> in, Tampa. When people think of Florida - an optismistic
> view would think sun, water, waves, beaches...ect... a
> "tropical" environment - thus, you put "tropical-sounding"
> gold in it... which would be more "Pop" music, and less of
> RUN DMC type of classics... each market responds differently
> - I think Tampa would lean towards the songs I have listed.
> Example: A well-rotated Gold in Tampa is Rockell's "In a
> Dream" - but, in Detroit - the market may not respond well
> to dance, so they play whatever fits their niche...
>
> Sorry if there's any rambling sentences above; just woke up.
>
 
You Can't Be Both

One thing that urks me about CHR's are the ones that sit on the fence and can't decide for the life of them what they want to do. It's like their afraid to do one thing, because it'll jeopardize another. Meaning they're afraid of losing that 34-year-old woman, who's not even in the core, so they'll play Edwin McCain (as an example). This list is one of those where if I were to hear these titles on a CHR (outside of any specialty show), I'd be like "Either do CHR or Hot AC and get off the pot already!"

Most of your titles simply do not fit a CHR sound today. You have to keep in mind what's current in CHR today. Plus, many of the titles you listed, should be getting play on Hot AC's and some even get spun on AC's (UB40, Madonna, Tina Turner.

On your list, I saw a handful that would fit on CHR today and most of those would have to be seriously dayparted. The only ones I saw where you could keep a wide open daypart is probably Tony Toni Tone, Color Me Badd and BBD.

You claim your station would lean older, which would classify you as an Adult CHR. Plus, if you have a Hot AC in town, how are you going to sound different from them, since many of these songs listed could spin on HAC's? You certainly aren't going to keep people by playing stiff's like New Order, Sunscreem and Stereo MC's.

It's one thing playing songs that us radio people know and like. It's another when it comes to you core demographic. It's no different in theory than if someone were to call and request that Traci Spencer track. YOU might like it and recognize and obviously the listener does too, BUT, how do the other thousands of people listening think of the song? This is where you need to know your demo.

Not ripping your list apart, so don't take it personal (Monica, 1995 LOL). It just gets frustrating to hear stations that *claim* they're CHR, but they can't seem to figure out their identity. We have two CHR's here in Northeast Ohio that are like that. They'll play Akon's "Bananza" and go into Third Eye Blind or some 80's tune -- both gold titles that are train wrecks for starters, but don't even fit the format anymore.

And both of these stations have competitors in their market where they can hear those other titles.
 
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