doc9464 said:Some on here picked up their rock when they had a chance with kerry and now Biden......I wasn't offended by Biden. Biden is yesterday's candidate and it shows in his inability to talk to the masses. His comment is probably dated back to oh say, 1973, but it its usually intent which I watch. Most of the comments coming from those on the RW here again are just opportunities to try to push another Dem into the proverbial mud. Thats all the peanut gallery here wanted to do and our Ohio or PA lawyer has decided to lead the irrational challenges to everything in his push to the bottom. There's a difference between dissent, opposition, and just being stupid. You can pick and choose on your own. I know what I believe on the recent posts......
The difference between Biden and Oh, say Trent Lott is a record of intent. Biden is inept and a media whore and has plenty of flaws, but he is not a racist. Trent Lott has probably learned his lesson as well as anyone can because he was stabbed so very hard in the back by his own people, so he learned how nasty conservatives can be. His comments got heat because Lott had a pretty nasty history of intent by his stands on various issues. I also know Lott did some good during Katrina in MS so while I would never trust Lott, I think he may have tried to reverse course a little not out of nobility but from lessons learned. The same applies for Robert Byrd. I have dozens of reasons not to find him to be a nobile person but he has tried to reverse course on some issues as well. Biden is neither and has no record of intent. He has a record of ineptness and it shows. Same for John Kerry. The right wing were able to use their ineptness against both men. I can reason who I feel is more racist or not. Biden is not a racist, Kerry doesn't hate troops, Trent Lott is probably a recovering racist because he was forced to be, and Byrd has done some work to try to turn around but I do not know where his heart is.
Do something conservatives are unwilling to do, use reason. You see it in posts here. The reason its so easy to malign and challenge the conservative peanut gallery here is intent. Most of the conservatives do not support issues that help all people. They have a record of intent. They cry when you call them on it. It doesn't mean they hate one particular people (but some may), but conservatives do not want everyone to succeed, they want their own personal success and the hell with everyone else. Its the culture of being self-centered and selfish.
Another post here talks of a situation that has nothing to do with "tolerence" but they try to frame any issue on race, minorities, or any issues of that type as a Democratic problem. If you want to see the results of their beliefs change the voting electorate...check the stats of the 2006 election. Just about every minority left the GOP as high and dry as you can get. People know when the raw deal is directed toward them. The Dems have a long way to go before I say they are on point on issues but I have some control of that by working for those goals. This is not true in the GOP and the record stands along with their platform, politics, and statements. Reasonable people know who the racists are......some just lurk in the closet, some speak out loud and proud of their folly. We got all kinds here.
They won't stop progress and their true lack of concern always finds light. There is a difference when people make mistakes and people just have bad intent. Biden did neither...but he was inept with his compliment. The conservative attitude is telling just because they see an opportunity to smear another Dem candidate. Look at the hatchet job done on Clinton, Obama, and Edwards so far. Look at Tom Tancredo, Virgil goode, etc. Those people are not making mistakes, misspeaking, or are inept. They represent the angry white man sector of the GOP as many do here. Their rage continues to seep out, even the ones who try to make themselves look good. Combine that with the complete lack of concern for fellow man and what do you have...a party in decline and deservedly so. Dems do not get a free pass on this issue either....but there are opportunities to force change.
Look at the truly open field we have this year.......yep, thats sure a difference from whats going on on the conservatives agenda. Instead of challenging, we get tons of smear and dirty business. Its all they have and they won't ever be ashamed, but they should be.
radiofriend1 said:"His comments to the New York Observer about primary rival and fellow Sen. Barack Obama -- that Obama is "articulate and bright and clean" -- sparked a firestorm on behalf of the Illinois senator, who didn't appear to feel all that slighted yesterday. "He called me," Obama told reporters when asked about Biden's remarks. "I told him it wasn't necessary... I have no problems with Joe Biden." His shots at Obama and Sen. Hillary Clinton for being latecomers to the Iraq war debate also got notice, though not as much."
source: msn 'first read'
So -- what you're really saying is: "Bring back Allan Keyes." ;D ;D
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