So whens 89.7fm supposed to go on the air? I see they are still broadcasting Sundays on 1560am.
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89.7fm Catholic radio in Toledo
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kirkiefan
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The callsign WNOC and construction permit has been granted by the FCC to Deacon Mike Learned (as Ministry to Catholic Charismatic Renewal)
They are having a pledge drive to obain funds to erect its transmitting tower.
Surely,Deacon Mike would appreciate support from the Toledo broadcast community.
http://www.annunciationradio.com
They are having a pledge drive to obain funds to erect its transmitting tower.
Surely,Deacon Mike would appreciate support from the Toledo broadcast community.
http://www.annunciationradio.com
This article said they will be on this air this Fall: http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090530/NEWS10/905300385
Will this station ever take to the air? St. Gabriel Catholic Radio in Columbus, Ohio has been trying to obtain funds for the last eight years to
build it's radio network to serve the entire Columbus Catholic diocese. They have yet to be able to even purchase or build a station to serve the entire Columbus area. They announced over a year ago that they would purchase WVKO-AM 1580 in Columbus but haven't been able to
raise the funds. They have had a LMA with Bernard Radio for the past year but someone posted on the Columbus radio board they will never be able to purchase the station and may even loss the LMA because of lack of funds.
So, good luck to 89.7 getting on the air in Toledo. If Catholic radio is struggling to stay/get on the air in the Columbus diocese, I don't see it doing any better in Toledo. Personally, I would be surprised to see that station take to the air any time soon, if at all. BTY, I do listen to
Catholic radio and am Catholic so I wish them good luck.
Will this station ever take to the air? St. Gabriel Catholic Radio in Columbus, Ohio has been trying to obtain funds for the last eight years to
build it's radio network to serve the entire Columbus Catholic diocese. They have yet to be able to even purchase or build a station to serve the entire Columbus area. They announced over a year ago that they would purchase WVKO-AM 1580 in Columbus but haven't been able to
raise the funds. They have had a LMA with Bernard Radio for the past year but someone posted on the Columbus radio board they will never be able to purchase the station and may even loss the LMA because of lack of funds.
So, good luck to 89.7 getting on the air in Toledo. If Catholic radio is struggling to stay/get on the air in the Columbus diocese, I don't see it doing any better in Toledo. Personally, I would be surprised to see that station take to the air any time soon, if at all. BTY, I do listen to
Catholic radio and am Catholic so I wish them good luck.
How can the FCC allocate an assignment on 89.7 in Toledo, when at 100kw station's transmitter on 89.9 is only about 40 miles northeast in Macgregor, Ont (CBE-FM "CBC Radio Two")? Their signal is practially a local one in most of metro Toledo. Did someone forget to check the database??
Goldilocks94941 said:
Nope. It was a rules change a few years back, in which Canada and the US mutually agreed to abandon cross-border signal protection for FMs. CBE-FM is now protected from interference only on Canadian soil, and the US is free to put anything it wants on the air so long as it doesn't cause predicted interference to CBE-FM within the Canadian border.
Likewise, Canada can put anything it wants on the air as long as it doesn't cause predicted interference to US signals on US soil, which is how we've seen new signals like 99.1 in Amherstburg and 95.1 in Windsor get approved in recent years.
Any new FM within a certain distance (320 km, IIRC) of the border has to be approved by the other country, and the 89.7 was:
Here's the exhibit the 89.7 applicant submitted showing Canadian compliance:
https://licensing.fcc.gov/cdbs/CDBS...?appn=101214400&qnum=5200©num=1&exhcnum=1
The application shows lots of interference to CBE-FM...but it's all on US soil, in an arc stretching from Port Clinton through Toledo into Michigan, and under the terms of the current deal between the US and Canada, that's legal.
Thanks for the details. It sounds like you are in favor of this assignment, but I find it a real crying shame. Seriously. The FM band is starting to get like the AM band, in terms of interference and signal degradation -- and its usually religious stations shoehorning themselves in at the expense of classical and public radio stations.
So why not apply for an AM on 790 and try to cram out CKLW? If that doesn't fly, then this FM assignment shouldn't happen, either -- even if the CRTC is now as blind, dead and dumb as the FCC has become regardling signal propagation.
There will be plenty of objections from people who listen to CBE-FM, but their recent programming changes will probably keep them more timid than the classical fans would have been.
Only one classical radio station available within 50 miles, but how many conservative religious ones are there on the dial?? And how many religious stations are not fundamentalist, pentecostal, or conservative?
Talk about provincialism, censorship, and making radio irrelevant to most of the population is now invited to follow, along with any snarky comments from 'true believers" happy to have it all in NW Ohio.
So why not apply for an AM on 790 and try to cram out CKLW? If that doesn't fly, then this FM assignment shouldn't happen, either -- even if the CRTC is now as blind, dead and dumb as the FCC has become regardling signal propagation.
There will be plenty of objections from people who listen to CBE-FM, but their recent programming changes will probably keep them more timid than the classical fans would have been.
Only one classical radio station available within 50 miles, but how many conservative religious ones are there on the dial?? And how many religious stations are not fundamentalist, pentecostal, or conservative?
Talk about provincialism, censorship, and making radio irrelevant to most of the population is now invited to follow, along with any snarky comments from 'true believers" happy to have it all in NW Ohio.
I'm neither in favor of the assignment nor opposed to it. I'm just passing along the information.
The rules on AM are a little different where the border is concerned. I don't think you could find a way to make a 790 fly in NW OH. Even though CKLW isn't protected from interference on US soil, it would be pretty hard to squeeze in any 790 that doesn't radiate enough toward Canada to interfere with CKLW on Canadian soil, which is not allowed. Then there are the co-channel US 790s in Saginaw, Heath OH and elsewhere that need to be protected, not to mention 790 in Sudbury, which is still protected internationally even though it's dark.
And by the way - the CRTC has nothing to do with any of this. Canada has two regulatory agencies at play here. The CRTC decides who gets a license and what they can do with it, but it's Industry Canada that handles the technical matters, including interference coordination across the border. It was Industry Canada (working with and through Canadian diplomats) that hammered out the current interference scheme with the FCC in the nineties - and it swings both ways.
I do some consulting for public broadcasters, and among my clients was a border-state public radio network that had a significant audience in Canada. I say "had" because much of that listenership was wiped out not long ago when Canada allowed one of its AM stations to move to FM on a first-adjacent channel to the station I was working with. Letters were written, members of parliament were petitioned...but the rules were the rules, and the Canadian station was duly authorized.
Turnabout is fair play, though: I'm now working with another border-state public broadcaster on an application for a new facility that will wipe out a chunk of a co-channel Canadian.
The rules on AM are a little different where the border is concerned. I don't think you could find a way to make a 790 fly in NW OH. Even though CKLW isn't protected from interference on US soil, it would be pretty hard to squeeze in any 790 that doesn't radiate enough toward Canada to interfere with CKLW on Canadian soil, which is not allowed. Then there are the co-channel US 790s in Saginaw, Heath OH and elsewhere that need to be protected, not to mention 790 in Sudbury, which is still protected internationally even though it's dark.
And by the way - the CRTC has nothing to do with any of this. Canada has two regulatory agencies at play here. The CRTC decides who gets a license and what they can do with it, but it's Industry Canada that handles the technical matters, including interference coordination across the border. It was Industry Canada (working with and through Canadian diplomats) that hammered out the current interference scheme with the FCC in the nineties - and it swings both ways.
I do some consulting for public broadcasters, and among my clients was a border-state public radio network that had a significant audience in Canada. I say "had" because much of that listenership was wiped out not long ago when Canada allowed one of its AM stations to move to FM on a first-adjacent channel to the station I was working with. Letters were written, members of parliament were petitioned...but the rules were the rules, and the Canadian station was duly authorized.
Turnabout is fair play, though: I'm now working with another border-state public broadcaster on an application for a new facility that will wipe out a chunk of a co-channel Canadian.
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kirkiefan
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Put your money where your mouth is...and give WNOC some! They can use a lot of Hail Marys too!
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