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KRTH now playing rap music.

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I'll have to disagree with that. The only reason I know '50s songs is because they were constantly played as oldies while I was growing up!
When I was a teenager, aside from "Happy Days" there were the commercials for records that played them. With the jock and the cheerleader who chewed gum.
 
It has a retro connection, but the song was #1 for 14 weeks in early '15
But because of the way it sounds, it fits.

That's like when Charlotte had a new oldies station back when Billy Joel had a hit with "Uptown Girl". I can't remember whether the station played it or the newspaper columnist merely said it could.
 
I'll have to disagree with that. The only reason I know '50s songs is because they were constantly played as oldies while I was growing up!
The "First Decade" of Top 40 began in 1951, which is when the format was begun at KOWH in Omaha and then, progressively rolled out into other markets with early pioneers like Todd Storz and Gordon McLendon "flipping" stations.

When I innaugurated my first Top 40 station in 1964, at age 18 I was too young to have personal experience in the format so I used stations I heard on visits to the US as models: WHK and WIXY in Cleveland, WQAM in Miami, WLS in Chicago and WABC in New York.

At that time, 13 years after the first op 40 began, none of them played regular flashbacks, gold, memories or whatever term was employed as stations started adding library cuts.
 
Except they don't play everything. KRTH is very focused about what it plays, even though it crosses genres.
Exactly. Jack and his clones is entering his third decades, and the blend has transitioned a bit over that time but the "window" has always been at least 30 years wide. The most successful Classic Hits stations have a window that covers 90% of the songs which is about 14 to 16 years wide, and which is even more narrow if you tabulate the number of plays. The much older and much newer songs tend to have lighter rotations.

It's important to note that evaluations of years and eras has to take into account total plays, not just the number of songs in a station's active library. Songs that get 20 weekly plays vs. ones on "lunar rotations" make the focus of classic hits stations even more narrow.
 
See when people say the music was so much better when I was growing up. Disagree with that.The music today is no better nor worse it's just different.
Bravo!

File under "to each their own". Of course we will have a fondness for the songs that we grew up on and which bring back memories of high school, our first date, going to college or getting our first job and similar life landmarks.

But, while many of us like adding new music to our personal playlist, others are content to stick with the early favorites.

I'm reminded of a research one-on-one interview I did for a Washington, DC, oldies station back in the llate 90's (I did a lot of free-lance moderation jobs for research companies back in that era). I was speaking with a woman who was a teen in the later 60's and she described how she liked Motown and the British Invasion and the Beach Boys with considerable passion.

When I spoke with her, she had spent 25 years as a filing clerk in a lower basement of a justice department building. Asked about how she felt about music from later years, she did not have the same passion. I asked why that was so, and she said "it's that those songs (referring to the 60's) are from the only time for me when life was fun."

So there we have a reason why some people only like the songs of their youth. Others love discovery and adopt new styles as their own.
 
See when people say the music was so much better when I was growing up. Disagree with that.The music today is no better nor worse it's just different.
You're right. The same difference between music of the 1920's and 1970's. 20's sucked. 70's rocked.
 
It has a retro connection, but the song was #1 for 14 weeks in early '15
So? I can name a good number of songs that were #1 for multiple weeks and "Top 10" for even more that are lethal weapons of mass audience destruction today.

Programming oldies and classic hits is not about creating a museum... or a mausoleum. It's about playing non-current music that people love and want to hear TODAY.
 
Sounds like KRTH has become a multi genre station for its newer audience.
If we're going to be particular, KRTH has always been that way. "Oldies" is not a genre, it's a format. The "oldies" version of K-Earth consisted of rock, soul, doo-wop, etc. of the 50's, 60's, and 70's. All seperate genres.

In essence, what they are doing is the modern form of what they did way back when. Mixing the mass-appeal songs of various genres: rock, pop, hip-hop, new-wave, alternative, R&B, etc.
 
Because you heard them on oldies stations playing gold, not CHR playing them.
You could have knocked me over with a feather and not Lloyd Thaxton's dog! I've been on this board or its predecessor since the mid-'90s and thought I'd established my reputation by now. I'm 69. When I was growing up, they didn't have Oldies stations. I believe the format was called Top 40, not only because stations played 40 current songs over and over but because they played them every four hours and filled with two gold titles and a new release every hour. As best as I remember, that pretty much describes the station I grew up with except every week, they had a Million Dollar Weekend, where every other song was gold. You have to understand that in 1964, a song from 1963 and anything back to 1955 was an "oldie"! Also, there was no such thing as a recurrent. After falling off the charts, songs were rested for about a year before reappearing as oldies.

Now that I think about it, Feather may have been Addie Bobkins' dog!
 
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You could have knocked me over with a feather and not Lloyd Thaxton's dog! I've been on this board or its predecessor since the mid-'90s and thought I'd established my reputation by now. I'm 69. When I was growing up, they didn't have Oldies stations. I believe the format was called Top 40, not only because stations played 40 current songs over and over but because they played them every four hours and filled with two gold titles and a new release every hour. As best as I remember, that pretty much describes the station I grew up with except every week, they had a Million Dollar Weekend, where every other song was gold. You have to understand that in 1964, a song from 1963 and anything back to 1955 was an "oldie"! Also, there was no such thing as a recurrent. After falling off the charts, songs were rested for about a year before reappearing as oldies.

Now that I think about it, Feather may have been Addie Bobkins' dog!
Smile with your bottom teeth, Semoochie!

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Just curious approximately what year did stations like Krth ditch the 50s 60s oldies for 80s 90s oldies? Or was it more gradually? Not all at once
I can't speak to the KRTH thread because I wasn't listening to them (or living in the Southland) but IMHO the classification "Oldies" is not a moving date range. Specifically, it is music in the Doo Wop/Be-bop/Rock era. My personal date range would be mid-50's thru mid 80's with a few exceptions outside those dates. You could argue that between those dates other genre's and not just the above genre's could be included - "Take Five" and "Tijuana Taxi for example - because those songs were played on Top 40 and MOR stations during that time. Other genre's are usually labeled "Classic xxx" and not Oldies although they fit the date range criteria. This may not, and probably doesn't fit the industry's terms but it makes the most sense to me and unlike our younger forum members I lived through every bit of it.

Oldies could deserve a genre of it's own.
 
The "First Decade" of Top 40 began in 1951, which is when the format was begun at KOWH in Omaha and then, progressively rolled out into other markets with early pioneers like Todd Storz and Gordon McLendon "flipping" stations.

When I innaugurated my first Top 40 station in 1964, at age 18 I was too young to have personal experience in the format so I used stations I heard on visits to the US as models: WHK and WIXY in Cleveland, WQAM in Miami, WLS in Chicago and WABC in New York.

At that time, 13 years after the first op 40 began, none of them played regular flashbacks, gold, memories or whatever term was employed as stations started adding library cuts.
I didn't begin listening to WABC until 1969 when I moved to White Plains, NY and have never heard the others (being primarily a West Coast kid) but several stations out West usually reserved Friday or Saturday evenings/nights to specialize in older romantic Doo-Wop and Pop music - you know, the kind that go out with dedications.
 
Because modern pop is pretty worthless, and unless it has a very good video to go with it, totally worthless.
Still can't find a problem with that statement. Survey the music being played at your dentist's office. Or tune in to KESZ here in PHX.
 
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