This is like trying to decide between Red Pepper Ice Cream and Horseradish Ice Cream.This might be worse than Julius, I’m not sure.
No David, this is the guy who used to play Chuckie (a/k/a "Charles Newman") on the old ba.broadcast Usenet group. Those of us who frequented ba.broadcast (and I know you were one of us) back in the 90's and early aughts should remember him, complete with his weird motel radio guide fixation.This is like trying to decide between Red Pepper Ice Cream and Horseradish Ice Cream.
"facsimile." (Damn Alzheimers.)No David, this is the guy who used to play Chuckie (a/k/a "Charles Newman") on the old ba.broadcast Usenet group. Those of us who frequented ba.broadcast (and I know you were one of us) back in the 90's and early aughts should remember him, complete with his weird motel radio guide fixation.
If this isn't another sock puppet from that guy, whatever his real name is, he's an incredible faximile. Also an incredible troll.
This was a retrospective show where he looks back at his amazing career that he did when he was at Z100, WPLJ, and WCBS-FM, plus, he played an aircheck composite of Scott Shannon from his days at WABB, WPGC, WQXI, Z100 and WPLJ throughout his 40+-year run. And then, Patti Steele about the history of her amazing career where she started at Z100, plus airchecks of Patti’s amazing career from her days at Z100, WCBS-AM, 1010 WINS (now 92.3 WINS-FM) and others.
No look back from his time at WRBQ in Tampa?
Nay. It's bigger than that. He "invented" the morning zoo concept while on the air in FL and also worked in broadcasting in other states. Countless PDs and stations followed his blueprint back in the days of Z100 as they wanted their stations to sound (and rate) like his. That makes him bigger than a NY radio icon...It makes him a national treasure.As always, he was amazing. Scott Shannon is truly a New York radio icon.
Cleveland Wheeler invented the Morning Zoo along with Scott in Tampa. And at the same time, but without the "Zoo" name, people like Rick Dees at WSGN in Birmingham were doing similar things in other markets. The "miracle" of the Zoo was the team of Cleveland and Scott and Scott without the other would have just been like Scott's show at WMAK.Nay. It's bigger than that. He "invented" the morning zoo concept while on the air in FL and also worked in broadcasting in other states.
There were plenty of other styles and implementations of the morning "fun on the radio" concept, going back more than a decade before Scott and Cleveland teamed up in Tampa.Countless PDs and stations followed his blueprint back in the days of Z100 as they wanted their stations to sound (and rate) like his. That makes him bigger than a NY radio icon...It makes him a national treasure.
Shoot, sorry David. I thought this thread was more of a eulogy-type one where we only say nice things about the person in question (Scott Shannon in this case) and don't bring up inconvenient truths or even bring reality into it. Kinda like how they engraved "Radios Greatest of All Time" into Rush Limbaugh's headstone. First, that claim is debatable, but second, there's a lot that goes along with that, not all of it positive, depending on perspective.Cleveland Wheeler invented the Morning Zoo along with Scott in Tampa. And at the same time, but without the "Zoo" name, people like Rick Dees at WSGN in Birmingham were doing similar things in other markets. The "miracle" of the Zoo was the team of Cleveland and Scott and Scott without the other would have just been like Scott's show at WMAK.
There were plenty of other styles and implementations of the morning "fun on the radio" concept, going back more than a decade before Scott and Cleveland teamed up in Tampa.
Scott had a great career, and worthy of recognition. But let's not forget the episodes in LA in music promotion and Pirate Radio, too. We all have ups and downs.
This is not a eulogy. Scott is retiring, not dying.Shoot, sorry David. I thought this thread was more of a eulogy-type one where we only say nice things about the person in question (Scott Shannon in this case) and don't bring up inconvenient truths or even bring reality into it. Kinda like how they engraved "Radios Greatest of All Time" into Rush Limbaugh's headstone. First, that claim is debatable, but second, there's a lot that goes along with that, not all of it positive, depending on perspective.
As I recall, Cleveland Wheeler was the creator of the "Q Morning Zoo" long before Scott entered the picture. Scott merely refined the concept.This is not a eulogy. Scott is retiring, not dying.
May he enjoy the next chapter in his life.
Exaggeration about the career of a hugely successful, bigger than life, radio star is not necessary or good. And negating the contribution of Cleveland Wheeler at the same time is not right.
Exactly.* What happened is that Cleveland's show concept combined with Scott's contrasting personality produced the kind of radio magic we see when you put a pair of great radio talents together.As I recall, Cleveland Wheeler was the creator of the "Q Morning Zoo" long before Scott entered the picture. Scott merely refined the concept.
If I remember correctly, beeing a foreigner from the other side of the planet, most stations close to the Top 40 format in LA kinda panicked and drop DJs to go more sweepers/music. I dont have the copies no more but i believe that both "Billboard" and "Music & Media" discussed this a few times. They shivered that the "Worst to first from NYC" came to LA. And after some time it normalized it self again.Scott had a great career, and worthy of recognition. But let's not forget the episodes in LA in music promotion and Pirate Radio, too. We all have ups and downs.
If I remember correctly, beeing a foreigner from the other side of the planet, most stations close to the Top 40 format in LA kinda panicked and drop DJs to go more sweepers/music.