e-dawg said:I know there's regional mexican music in the United States, but they have this music format in Costa Rica, El Salvador and Honduras (La Mejor FM network)? I thought Grupera music is only in Mexico and United States?
mimo said:The cumbia, which is what grupera is based on,
is very popular throughout latin America, but it does change regionally.
There are bands from central America that are quite popular in Mexico and their version of the cumbia fits in very nicely with what airs on Mexican radio.
Even Colombia has the Sonoras which are cumbia bands.
DavidEduardo said:"Grupera" in Mexico refers to norteña, banda, duragüense and related music forms. For example, La Z and Ke Buena in Mexico City are "grupera" but play all but never any cumbias.
Chompiras said:David, that's not true. I've heard Los Angeles de Charly, Los Socios del Ritmo and Celso Piña on BOTH of those stations. Not long ago, La Z also had at times one salsa piece mixed in every other hour. While cumbia is not the main focus for the formatics (especially on Ke Buena), it is not omitted either.
DavidEduardo said:mimo said:The cumbia, which is what grupera is based on,
"Grupera" in Mexico refers to norteña, banda, duragüense and related music forms. For example, La Z and Ke Buena in Mexico City are "grupera" but play all but never any cumbias.
Historically, in the 70's and 80's, "grupera" referred to music by groups like the Bukis, Los Babys, Los Muecas, Yndio y su Grupo, etc. Some of the songs had a cumbia rhythm, but most were a fusion of traditional Mexican music with pop.
Over time, "grupera" came to define Mexican music mostly by bands that was not ranchera. There was some cumbia influence, such as in the cumbia beat norteñas more prevalent in the 70's than today.
is very popular throughout latin America, but it does change regionally.
In Mexico, that music is called "sonidera" and in Argentina "bailanta". In some places, like the Greater Antilles, it has zero appeal and is essentially never, ever played on the radio... now or in the past.
There are bands from central America that are quite popular in Mexico and their version of the cumbia fits in very nicely with what airs on Mexican radio.
Off hand, except for the rip-off Sonora Dinamita from El Salvador, I can't think of any Central American cumbia group that is or was popular across Mexico. Or in the US for that matter.
Even Colombia has the Sonoras which are cumbia bands.
Why do you say "even"? The cumbia is from the northern coast of Colombia, from Montería to Maicao, and the marshlands inland... it shares some of the regional heritage of the Vallenato, as both are a mix of African music with indigenous interpretations and European instruments.
The cumbia has a bunch of variations in Colombia, including the gaita, the porro, etc.
mimo said:As far as other bands, I have always been told that Los Angeles Azules were not Mexican, but from El Salvador.
There are other bands who do sound similar to them from central Amercia who were immensely popular for a while.
Bands like Grupo Bryndis, Los Bukis (including Marco Antonio Solis' solo material) and Los Temerarios had a strong cumbia influence. Banda groups like Banda Machos also had the influence as well and you can even hear it in Norten~a bands like Los Tigres Del Norte or Los Tiranos Del Norte (example their version of No Volvere)
David posted, "The salsa disappeared from the GRC station many years ago. Salsa is to grupero listeners like rat poison is to rats."
Yeah right, the time is 3:16 central, listening to KeBuena's internet feed from Mexico City.
Also, Señor David seems to look down on cumbia, yet El Mandril is constantly playing "Soy Maraquero" by GRUPO KUAL, and often features DJ mixes of cumbia inside of the morning show. He's number one in the ratings! La Raza also plays significant cumbia tracks during their "Movidas al Mediodia" segment.