FCC Commissioner Calls To Ban TikTok

[Y2kTheNewOldies]

Montana's first-in-the-nation ban on TikTok blocked by judge who says it's unconstitutional

Montana’s law banning TikTok in the state has been blocked while a legal challenge to the law moves through the courts, a federal judge ruled.

apnews.com

A federal court has declared that the TIK TOK ban in Montana is unconstitutional.

 

[Ed Nielson]

This somehow looks like some sort of well-meaning but misguided attempt at trying to protect people from themselves. There really is a simple solution. Don't use them. I don't use TikTok, Fakebook or Instagram. See? Easy.

 

[Mark Roberts]

This somehow looks like some sort of well-meaning but misguided attempt at trying to protect people from themselves. There really is a simple solution. Don't use them. I don't use TikTok, Fakebook or Instagram. See? Easy.

Sounds kind of like abstinence-based birth control. We all know how well that works.

 

[kwthom]

Sounds kind of like abstinence-based birth control. We all know how well that works.

Self-control is a wonderful thing...unless you don't have it.

Millions don't have it.

Attention-seeking schulbs?

 

[kfbkfb]

YouTube Shorts - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Maybe if YouTube/Google gave YouTube Shorts some silly name, TikTok would fall out of favor.


Kirk Bayne

 

[Kelly A]

Maybe if YouTube/Google gave YouTube Shorts some silly name, TikTok would fall out of favor.

My guess is you're not much of a TikTok user.

 

[Kelly A]

A federal court has declared that the TIK TOK ban in Montana is unconstitutional.

And what these lawmaker/bloviators don't understand; is the public Internet is an international resource. Most younger people nowadays are using VPNs so that they can get around any statewide or even U.S.-wide banning. I feel embarrassed on behalf of politicians who are so naive as to think they have the power to ban some sites on the Internet.

 

[kevtronics]

And what these lawmaker/bloviators don't understand; is the public Internet is an international resource. Most younger people nowadays are using VPNs so that they can get around any statewide or even U.S.-wide banning. I feel embarrassed on behalf of politicians who are so naive as to think they have the power to ban some sites on the Internet.

Without Net Neutrality (again, yet), we don't have a "public Internet". We have private ISPs which can choose to block or throttle sites as they desire. Just as Google has been caught intentionally slowing down access to their sites for anyone who isn't using Google's own browser.

 

[Kelly A]

Without Net Neutrality (again, yet), we don't have a "public Internet". We have private ISPs which can choose to block or throttle sites as they desire.

ISP's only throttle content to conserve bandwidth on their network. However, that doesn't happen much anymore, given the increase in network management and the growth of fiber to neighborhoods and businesses.

Just as Google has been caught intentionally slowing down access to their sites for anyone who isn't using Google's own browser.

The browser is called Chrome, and Google has the right to manage throughput from its search engine. Net Neutrality wouldn't cover what amounts to search throttling. Too many people seem to think Net Neutrality means private industry online can't manage their products.

 

[TheBigA]

Too many people seem to think Net Neutrality means private industry online can't manage their products.

Which is why these companies are now being challenged on the grounds that they're monopolies.

Unfortunately this argument becomes counter-productive to the way these companies work.

Congress wants them to do something for nothing, and that's not how they operate.

 

[Kelly A]

Congress wants them to do something for nothing, and that's not how they operate.

And that something includes giving whichever political party carte blanche to do or say what they want online. Otherwise, there's just too much political bias toward the _________________ party.

 

[TheBigA]

And that something includes giving whichever political party carte blanche to do or say what they want online. Otherwise, there's just too much political bias toward the _________________ party.

That's the problem with regulation. Everyone is pushing their agenda. They say they want "free speech" but they really don't.

 

[Theater of My Mind]

Today (April 20, 2024), the House voted for the second time to force TikTok’s parent company to sell it or be banned in the U.S.

While a standalone bill with a shorter selling deadline passed the House in March, the modified version with a longer selling deadline got attached to the $95 billion military aid bill for Israel, Ukraine and Taiwan, ensuring it will get fast-tracked through the Senate and signed into law within days.

The House votes for possible TikTok ban in the US, but don't expect the app to go away anytime soon

The House has passed legislation that would ban TikTok in the United States if the popular social media platform’s China-based owner doesn’t sell its stake within a year.

apnews.com

 

[kwthom]

from the article above...

"Nadya Okamoto, a content creator who has roughly 4 million followers on TikTok, said she has been having conversations with other creators who are experiencing “so much anger and anxiety” about the bill and how it’s going to impact their lives. <....>[Okamoto] makes most of her income from TikTok.

“This is going to have real repercussions,” she said.

Rule One: Don't put all of your eggs in one basket - or, in this case, all on a single social media platform.

Many will learn this rule as this progresses.

 

[Y2kTheNewOldies]

https://www.reuters.com/technology/tiktok-ceo-expects-defeat-us-restrictions-we-arent-going-anywhere-2024-04-24/

Here is the latest on Tik Tok.

 

[BamaTX]

People would be a hell of a lot smarter if this app weren’t around anymore.

Bingo. There's absolutely no doubt in my mind that China is using tiktok's algorithm to rot the moral fiber of our country.

In China, the tiktok (called Douyin) algorithm targets the underage population with educational and patriotic content. They also limit the amount of time kids can spend on the platform. For the general Chinese population, Tiktok moderates content that they deem harmful to society. But in America, they allowe harmful trends (such as the Kia Boys) to flourish. Tiktok is directly linked to the increase in suicide rates for young Americans. Depression and anxiety rates are much higher than ever before. We are allowing China to turn our kids into American-hating radicals and furries. I wish this was a joke, but they really are rotting our future.

China blocks American services such as Facebook, Instagram, YouTube and Twitter in their country. The least we should do is RETURN THE FAVOR and ban their services here as well. Tit for tat, just like we do in trade.

 

[TheBigA]

Bingo. There's absolutely no doubt in my mind that China is using tiktok's algorithm to rot the moral fiber of our country.

Keep in mind the new law doesn't actually ban TikTok. It just requires that it be sold to a US company. No guarantee that anything would change with the actual app.

Called the Protecting Americans from Foreign Adversary Controller Applications Act, the bill won’t exactly ban TikTok; instead, the goal is to force TikTok owner ByteDance to sell the popular app. The legislation signed by President Joe Biden on Wednesday will give ByteDance nine months to sell TikTok.

 

[BamaTX]

Keep in mind the new law doesn't actually ban TikTok. It just requires that it be sold to a US company. No guarantee that anything would change with the actual app.

A total ban is a possibility if Bytedance doesn't sell. While the money is nice, I'm sure the ultimate goal has always been to covertly cause social distraught. They'll likely take the money from Microsoft and look for new ways to negatively influence our society.

Looking back now, it makes sense that we have seen a ramp up of pro-hamas/pro-palestine protestors these past few weeks. TikTok was strongly against the bill, so I'm guessing their algorithms started pushing anti-israel propaganda to inflame protests and put pressure against the bill.

 

[TheBigA]

A total ban is a possibility if Bytedance doesn't sell. While the money is nice, I'm sure the ultimate goal has always been to covertly cause social distraught.

That's a problem with all social media. China isn't restricting its activity to Tik Tok. They have been able to plant their views in actual members of congress. There were hearings just last week that members of congress have been used by both China and Russia to spread disinformation.

Oversight Hearing Demonstrates Threat of Foreign Disinformation as Russian, Chinese Propaganda Infect House GOP

Washington, D.C. (April 18, 2024)—Rep. Jamie Raskin, Ranking Member of the Committee on Oversight and Accountability, led Committee Democrats in examining how autocracies like China and Russia have sought to undermine American democracy through pervasive disinformation and propaganda campaigns...

oversightdemocrats.house.gov

Professor Timothy Snyder testified that “Political warfare only works insofar as it works through us” and then identified specific disinformation themes that have been spread by both Russia and the Chinese Communist Party and amplified by Members of Congress.

So just shutting down TikTok doesn't stop the work of the Chinese Communist Party. They have many other tools at their disposal.