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Expected format flips in the next few months?

Just a note---in a Facebook thread this weekend, David said Cowpoke Radio is his---a tribute to KRAK in the 1960s. So, online only and all references to an over-the-air signal or a presence in Banta is fictional. Imaginative and fun, but fictional.
 
Just a note---in a Facebook thread this weekend, David said Cowpoke Radio is his---a tribute to KRAK in the 1960s. So, online only and all references to an over-the-air signal or a presence in Banta is fictional. Imaginative and fun, but fictional.
Just to close another loop, I emailed DFJ at BARHOF a month ago and never heard anything back from him (or anyone else there). I'd completely forgotten about it. Glad you were able to fill in some missing pieces.

Cute little flight of fantasy on his part, but strange that he doesn't respond to a direct inquiry about it.
 
Just to close another loop, I emailed DFJ at BARHOF a month ago and never heard anything back from him (or anyone else there). I'd completely forgotten about it. Glad you were able to fill in some missing pieces.

Cute little flight of fantasy on his part, but strange that he doesn't respond to a direct inquiry about it.

The last time David responded to an e-mail of mine was when he was my editor. Dude doesn't correspond. I thought about mentioning it when you first said you were reaching out, but I thought maybe you'd have better luck.
 
The last time David responded to an e-mail of mine was when he was my editor. Dude doesn't correspond. I thought about mentioning it when you first said you were reaching out, but I thought maybe you'd have better luck.
Might've been my own fault for referencing this board and this thread. Assuming it's something personal and not just that he's anti-social -- and when has anyone in the media ever been anti-social? -- reading the discussion might have scared him away from getting sucked into a discussion. (Not that I've ever observed David being shy about anything that gets him a dollop of ink.)
 
Might've been my own fault for referencing this board and this thread. Assuming it's something personal and not just that he's anti-social -- and when has anyone in the media ever been anti-social? -- reading the discussion might have scared him away from getting sucked into a discussion. (Not that I've ever observed David being shy about anything that gets him a dollop of ink.)
It’s gonna be real interesting when he checks back in…
 
Just a note---in a Facebook thread this weekend, David said Cowpoke Radio is his---a tribute to KRAK in the 1960s. So, online only and all references to an over-the-air signal or a presence in Banta is fictional. Imaginative and fun, but fictional.
Oh my!! I e-mailed him, complimented him, but never heard back !! You were right all along, Michael. Of course. :)

It's such a fun station ! He even has old shows from John Mack Flanagan on sometimes. I wish he would show up here and chat with us. He's really done a super job of programming.
I know he thinks he's making a joke, but it is programmed exactly like a honky-tonk out of the 50's. Somewhere, he got an extensive collection of country-western music. He's really good.
I wish he would come on here and chat with us. :)-- Daryl
 
I think since most of the stations are owned by conglomerates, there's probably going to be fewer format flips, maybe just "tweaking" the playlists. More likely that smaller broadcasters would be doing the flip. It'd be interesting to compare how many stations were changing formats before the C.C.s of the country bought up most of the stations compared to today. Maybe Fybush would know.
 
Oh my!! I e-mailed him, complimented him, but never heard back !! You were right all along, Michael. Of course. :)

It's such a fun station ! He even has old shows from John Mack Flanagan on sometimes. I wish he would show up here and chat with us. He's really done a super job of programming.
I know he thinks he's making a joke, but it is programmed exactly like a honky-tonk out of the 50's. Somewhere, he got an extensive collection of country-western music. He's really good.
I wish he would come on here and chat with us. :)-- Daryl
I don’t think he thinks he’s making a joke. David’s a very serious guy with a love of the radio he grew up with, and Cowpoke Radio is his valentine to early KRAK. His KABL revival was similarly well-done. And, so, for that matter, are the Bay Area Radio Museum tribute pages.
 
I think since most of the stations are owned by conglomerates, there's probably going to be fewer format flips, maybe just "tweaking" the playlists. More likely that smaller broadcasters would be doing the flip. It'd be interesting to compare how many stations were changing formats before the C.C.s of the country bought up most of the stations compared to today. Maybe Fybush would know.

Today's radio, for as much bashing as it gets, has done a much better job of creating and marketing formats with legs.

Since we're on the San Francisco board, I'll stick with that.

KYUU was an AC station for eight years. KOIT's been AC for 38 years.

KFRC was Top 40 for 19 years (I'm calling 1985 and The Game Zone as the breaking point---when they came out of that they were really AC). KMEL's been CHR (admittedly more rhythmic, but it's what works in the Bay Area) for 39 years.

There's a long list of stations that have survived on course corrections rather than format flips, in a lot of markets. Probably the best example is KIIS-FM in Los Angeles.

KFWB was Top 40 for 9 years (the final year was a mix of MOR, what would come to be called Adult Contemporary, and album rock at night).

KRLA was Top 40 for 13 years.

KHJ was Top 40 for 15 years.

KIIS-FM has been CHR for 42 years.


And I don't think it's so much conglomerate ownership as research and marketing. Or these stations likely would have flipped pre-consolidation.
 
I think since most of the stations are owned by conglomerates, there's probably going to be fewer format flips, maybe just "tweaking" the playlists. More likely that smaller broadcasters would be doing the flip. It'd be interesting to compare how many stations were changing formats before the C.C.s of the country bought up most of the stations compared to today. Maybe Fybush would know.
I couldn't even begin to guess. There's no unified database of format changes. I didn't even keep a full one during the years when I edited M Street Journal/Radio Journal.
 
I don’t think he thinks he’s making a joke. David’s a very serious guy with a love of the radio he grew up with, and Cowpoke Radio is his valentine to early KRAK. His KABL revival was similarly well-done. And, so, for that matter, are the Bay Area Radio Museum tribute pages.
So......wait..... He does not have an FCC license for KWPX? And...the station does not have an antenna to broadcast over the air, so it is just like an internet website, where he plays music from sound files? So, there is no frequency, correct ? So, when his website and the announcer who does the station I.D. says "AM & FM", that's just a spoof, right? So, the map showing the area where the so-called "signal" reaches, like over to Tracy, and all......that's not real.
But, he hired some professional announcers to sing the jingle for the I.D. and do the station I.D. That man who sings and the gal who does the I.D. in a western accent..........those sound like professional voice artists.
If you read his comment that it was completely fictional, then I completely believe you. But he went to a lot of work to spoof people.

That website looks like the real deal, especially with the jingles and the professional announcers, and the note that they are sponsored by the "Banta Inn", and that they are in the building across the street, etc. I understand it's fictional But to a listener, it is convincing.
 
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But, he hired some professional announcers to sing the jingle for the I.D. and do the station I.D. That man who sings and the gal who does the I.D. in a western accent..........those sound like professional voice artists.
There are jingle companies that will do "personal" jingles for a small sum for websites and the like. I did my own for my radio history site, but stopped using them as they annoyed frequent users so i removed all audio. I paid less than $500 each for personal and site jingles.

Most of us have friends who would voice some liners and stuff as a favor.
 
There are jingle companies that will do "personal" jingles for a small sum for websites and the like. I did my own for my radio history site, but stopped using them as they annoyed frequent users so i removed all audio. I paid less than $500 each for personal and site jingles.

Most of us have friends who would voice some liners and stuff as a favor.
David, I read that you are recovering from surgery. I think it's admirable that you're moderating, you're here almost 24/7, and you're recovering. I hope that you have some time to rest and heal up. Sending best wishes and positive thoughts. Get well soon. -- D.
 
So......wait..... He does not have an FCC license for KWPX? And...the station does not have an antenna to broadcast over the air, so it is just like an internet website, where he plays music from sound files? So, there is no frequency, correct ? So, when his website and the announcer who does the station I.D. says "AM & FM", that's just a spoof, right? So, the map showing the area where the so-called "signal" reaches, like over to Tracy, and all......that's not real.
But, he hired some professional announcers to sing the jingle for the I.D. and do the station I.D. That man who sings and the gal who does the I.D. in a western accent..........those sound like professional voice artists.
If you read his comment that it was completely fictional, then I completely believe you. But he went to a lot of work to spoof people.

That website looks like the real deal, especially with the jingles and the professional announcers, and the note that they are sponsored by the "Banta Inn", and that they are in the building across the street, etc. I understand it's fictional But to a listener, it is convincing.
Yep. Purely a web tribute.
 
KRLA was Top 40 for 13 years.

Besides 1959-72, they were also Top 40 from about 1983 to 1998.. Some of the original DJ's from the 60's returned. They played Top 40's oldies. They were about the last Top 40's station on AM. In 1998, they had one remaining DJ on staff- Dick Hugg "Huggie Boy". who left in 1998. That was about the end of AM rock radio in L.A. , I think.
 
David, I read that you are recovering from surgery. I think it's admirable that you're moderating, you're here almost 24/7, and you're recovering. I hope that you have some time to rest and heal up. Sending best wishes and positive thoughts. Get well soon. -- D.
Thanks for the wishes. Minor stuff they do with tiny little lasers and miniature lenses!
 
Besides 1959-72, they were also Top 40 from about 1983 to 1998.. Some of the original DJ's from the 60's returned. They played Top 40's oldies. They were about the last Top 40's station on AM. In 1998, they had one remaining DJ on staff- Dick Hugg "Huggie Boy". who left in 1998. That was about the end of AM rock radio in L.A. , I think.
At least in the later years, the music was pretty "low rider" and East LA in feel.
 
There are jingle companies that will do "personal" jingles for a small sum for websites and the like. I did my own for my radio history site, but stopped using them as they annoyed frequent users so i removed all audio. I paid less than $500 each for personal and site jingles.

Most of us have friends who would voice some liners and stuff as a favor.
I wondered what happened to your jingles.
 
Unfortunately 92.7 isn’t a very attractive signal. Struggles even in Daly City at times. Misses almost all of San Jose too. Its directional broadcast also gives it poor reception along 280. Just don’t see it succeeding. It’s probably the worst major Bay Area FM by population covered; even 97.7 or 101.7 have better coverage.

It’s very likely to go to VCY for a bargain. There’s a small chance that maybe Vanguard Media buys it and Pirate 92.7 continues in its form. That would be the preferred ending but that is entirely up to Don Davis!

Unless Alpha Media wants to purchase 96.1 or 92.3, or Univision continue to partially exit radio, I think we won’t see a sale. My buddy in the industry said Cumulus would trade some signals to Audacy in other markets for another station in the bay but I don’t know if Audacy would wanna part with even their low rated FMs. Likely only 92.7 sees ownership changes

Flip wise, entirely different subject…

- KVVF 105.7 continues to drop and drop. They have by far the best signal of the Spanish FMs. This is something I think they’ll do something with. I’m curious how their billing is, I listened to them the other day for 4 hours on some errands to get a feel for their format even though I don’t speak Spanish and they’re running close to no ads!

- KITS 105.3, another flop. Not sure what’s gonna happen.

- KSAN 107.3, so these guys have actually been doing some very slight playlist changes. I’ve noticed 2010 rock and 2000’s rock being played more often, plus they also decided to play a new Shinedown song. I suggested they flip to active rock and it seems they’re slowly going that way. This is probably a smart idea since they’d be entirely alone for the format unlike how they compete with KSOF and KUFX now.

- KRBQ (102.1) is also doing a bit poorly. though I’m not sure what they can try here.
They (KRBQ) might try Rhythmic Hot AC again changing back to "Q102.1 The Beat of The Bay" since a lot of CHR stations are flipping to that format or a similar format if it continues though they will probably tweak their music direction until they would flip. It might be like the original Q102.1 or more like WBBM by then. If its like the original Q102 it will probably be a mix of Classic Hip Hop/R&B, Today's Pop/Dance, and a bit more current hip-hop titles that only play on certain CHR stations like it was back then. KVVF 105.7 might try to mix English/Spanish Rhythmic CHR if they continue to drop and try to go in a similar direction as Wild 104 in Texas but with a different name than wild as "Wild" is already on another station in the market likely being the same branding it already has.
 
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