Throughout the weekdays, KTLA 5 LA has been airing nothing but news from 4AM - 7:30PM everyday, and, call me crazy, but I think that's a lot of news. I think they should cut back, and have some variety for crying out loud. I mean, what's with all of these stations nowadays airing so much news, you know? What do you guys think, are they doing too much? Should there be more variety, or am I just delusional?
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Do you think KTLA has too much news?
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I think KVVU and KRON are the closest but since they don't have duopolies in their markets, Nexstar should buy another station in both California markets same as Gray in Las Vegas to clear Local News Live and Las Vegas Aces games.
Then maybe they just get rid of Syndicated Programming from their late-night programming and replace it by Infomercials from Midnight to 4AM Monday thru Friday and from Midnight to 6AM Saturdays and Sundays since no one watches Syndicated Programming on KTLA 5 they will end up getting KCAL to air their Syndicated Programming what KDOC showed
KTLA 5 should be known as KTLA 5 News Now as a local news and events similar what KYAV in Palm Springs offers that's what KTLA would of done since they're about to become all-news.
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There *are* people, however, that will watch this - for hours.
For chunks of time yes. But that's the point--my chunk of time, your chunk of time, someone else's chunk of time...all different. Maybe overlap. Maybe don't. It's there as known quantity for when viewers who like that want it. Obviously not suitable for all scenarios, but in this business situation, good for them making it work.
KTLA should stop showing Syndicated Programming on late-nights it's a waste of time and it will replaced by Infomercials on late-nights.
KTLA is the number #1 to air all local news and their not going to drop their local news, no it's not going to happen at all.
KCAL will end up getting Friends, Two and a half Men, Forensic Files, Cheaters, Pawn Stars, Young Sheldon, The Goldbergs, Family Guy and Bob's Burgers this fall.
CBS News and Stations owned-and-operated television stations airs Family Guy and Bob's Burgers in other markets and I think KCAL will end up getting it this fall.
Which means KTLA will become all local news and events it will be known as KTLA 5 News Now similar what KYAV in Palm Springs offers.
This is what some might call a paradox. On the one hand, people want their radio stations to be live & local. When a TV station attempts to do that, they complain that there's too much local news. Perhaps it's not the same people. But the only local element in TV programming is news. That's how these stations brand themselves, that's how they demonstrate their local involvement, and justify their existence to the FCC.
They program the news the same way as a radio station. They don't expect listeners to stay tuned for the whole block. They assume you'll come and go as you get ready for work and leave.
They program the news the same way as a radio station. They don't expect listeners to stay tuned for the whole block. They assume you'll come and go as you get ready for work and leave.
And nobody programs a TV station for "all day viewing". TV viewing is based on programs, not "channels".
I think making a TV station's image that of "news when you want it... news when you need it" is a great way to get people to come to you first for news.
And advertisers like the environment.
I’d rather have news on L
KTLA than trashy courtroom shows and trashy springerish talk shows. It’s bad enough local advertising is reduced to ambulance chasers, Powell Electric and a handful of furniture stores.
KTLA than trashy courtroom shows and trashy springerish talk shows. It’s bad enough local advertising is reduced to ambulance chasers, Powell Electric and a handful of furniture stores.
Also the company that owns the syndicated content are having deals to appear on YouTube, Tubi, Pluto and Freevee. I can see why KTLA and others do have to expand their newscasts outside of CW Network hours. If a local TV station is too dependent on syndicated content today then they are flipping immediately in these conditions. Yes I am referring to why KDOC and KOFY had to flip and change affiliations its because they were too dependent on syndicated shows and that's what made KDOC an affiliate of TCT and KOFY an affiliate of Grit and now Dr. Phil's Merit Street Media as of 2024.
My suggestion is Scripps KILM would turn their Bounce TV affiliate into an Independent station branded as California 64 and KILM might end up getting Syndicated shows what KDOC showed because I heard Scripps is going to turn some CW affiliations into an Independent stations in other markets to air local news, local sports and live local events in September that would be an option for KILM, move Bounce TV affiliate to KPXN 30.6 and move Jewelry TV to KPXN 30.7 since 30.7 is been off the air for a long time, KILM might end up becoming an Independent station branded as California 64 to air Syndicated Programming what KDOC showed, local news, local sports and live local events.
A few things....
- Cheaper to produce news that buy/air syndicated programming
- KTLA has had the #1 or near #1 rated morning news/10pm news for decades. The audience is there
- Car chases happen almost daily and usually during news time. Easy time filler.
- Brand recogntion. When the big stories break, most viewers go to 5, 7 or 4.
- KTLA's news heavy strategy isn't for all markets, but it has proven successful in LA. If it ain't broke, don't try to fix it.
Don't forget 9. Granted, KCBS is involved in the duo but KCAL gets higher ratings out of the two. 9 is there too in terms of recognition, especially when a car chase happens.
That is doubtful, since CBS is now using the "KCAL News" brand on both channels 2 and 9 ... have been for months now. You don't create a brand like that and just toss it away in favor of more off-network syndicated fare.
While CBS does run some of those shows in other markets, in L.A. having a duopoly means different programming strategies.
I think KCAL/KCBS and KTLA are the ones going head-to-head in the battle for news, and I don't see either of them backing down.
First, that is one of the longest run-on sentences I have seen in a very long time. Shorter separate sentences would have made it much easier to understand what you are saying.
KILM has been an also-ran ever since it moved into L.A. from Victorville. It actually is a channel share with co-owned KPXN (they share the same transmitter on UHF 24) and Bounce is probably on there just to keep the license alive.
You answered your own question, though: If the programming KDOC had been running until their recent sale to a religious broadcaster was profitable, why would they have sold the station ... and more to the point, why would another station in the market adopt the same programming strategy which already failed on a more visible (and longer historied) station?
Again, as I just said above ... L.A. is a different market. One cannot presume that a strategy that works in a smaller market will work here. The markets where Scripps is converting are ones with many fewer stations, so there are opportunities for them with a "more local" strategy. That is decidedly not the case here.
I would be inclined to think that if they do want to increase the amount of news-oriented programming on weekends, they're likely to add content from their co-owned NewsNation cable network. They already carry "The Hill Sunday" from that network (although this week it's pre-empted by golf) so there's probably no reason why they couldn't carry other such programming.
"KCBS is involved" gave me a chuckle since CBS is now using the "KCAL News" brand on both stations. Actually, I think that makes a lot of sense -- and supports your statement about recognition -- because when KHJ-TV became KCAL in 1989 they were the first station in the market to go all-news in prime time.
35 years of sticking with that programming tactic has built visibility for them, and (as I said above) I think it's channel 9 which represents the bigger opponent to channel 5's dominance (and of course, the latter's credibility in news goes back to the 1940s with the late Stan Chambers!).
They can reschedule to afternoon probably before 5pm much like ABC occassionally does with This Week in event of ESPN coverage.