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I just noticed a bit of pre-digital radio trivia: the FM was shown as "94 1/3"!
I (just a humble listener mind you) was one of the very first people to ever use the then new identitifier of "95.5" instead of "95 1/2" on air.

I think it was 1985 and I called in and was allowed to announce the next song at about 7:00 am on the very morning they made the change. This was on Shana's morning show and the song was (one of my favorites) "Happy" by the Rolling Stones. They repeatedly told me to make sure I said 95.5 instead of 95 1/2 since it was so new.
 
That would be KMPC-FM, which then changed to KEDG a few months before their early demise in 1989.
An interesting experiment, and a case study in how what works in one market won't in another. KMPC was considered to be the West Coast equivalent of New York's WNEW. Both big, well-regarded personality MOR stations that by the 80s had become nostalgia/adult standard outlets.

WNEW also had WNEW-FM, which was a renowned album rock station. New Yorkers had no trouble keeping them apart and both were successful. Should work for KMPC, which had recently acquired an FM, right?

Nope. Listener confusion and the feeling that KMPC had one image, period, led to the call letter switch. That may or may not have mattered. It's entirely possible that L.A., by that point, simply wasn't a town where a KMPC-FM/KEDG style format was going to work.
 
An interesting experiment, and a case study in how what works in one market won't in another. KMPC was considered to be the West Coast equivalent of New York's WNEW. Both big, well-regarded personality MOR stations that by the 80s had become nostalgia/adult standard outlets.

WNEW also had WNEW-FM, which was a renowned album rock station. New Yorkers had no trouble keeping them apart and both were successful. Should work for KMPC, which had recently acquired an FM, right?

Nope. Listener confusion and the feeling that KMPC had one image, period, led to the call letter switch. That may or may not have mattered. It's entirely possible that L.A., by that point, simply wasn't a town where a KMPC-FM/KEDG style format was going to work.
They had too much competition, and in my experience, whenever there are too many stations in one or several comparable formats, the one that plays the most variety of them all will be the loser. It's competition included:

KNX-FM*
KLOS
KLSX
KQLZ (Pirate Radio)
KRTH
KROQ

KMPC-FM/KEDG's playlist was an amalgamation of all of those other stations' playlists, and thus had the most "variety" of them all, so it was the weakest station that was (so unfortunately) the easiest to replace.

* By the time KEDG switched formats to KLIT in the spring of 1989, Mellow Rock KNX-FM had already switched to an oldies format a few months earlier so was no longer competition, but they were during most of the two years KMPC-FM/KEDG was on the air.
 
They had too much competition, and in my experience, whenever there are too many stations in one or several comparable formats, the one that plays the most variety of them all will be the loser. It's competition included:

KNX-FM*
KLOS
KLSX
KQLZ (Pirate Radio)
KRTH
KROQ

KMPC-FM/KEDG's playlist was an amalgamation of all of those other stations' playlists, and thus had the most "variety" of them all, so it was the weakest station that was (so unfortunately) the easiest to replace.

* By the time KEDG switched formats to KLIT in the spring of 1989, Mellow Rock KNX-FM had already switched to an oldies format a few months earlier so was no longer competition, but they were during most of the two years KMPC-FM/KEDG was on the air.
And Pirate Radio didn't sign on until March 17 of 1989. It was K-Lite during the time we're talking about.

Also not sure you can count KRTH as competition for the KMPC-FM/KEDG audience.
 
They had too much competition, and in my experience, whenever there are too many stations in one or several comparable formats, the one that plays the most variety of them all will be the loser. It's competition included:

KNX-FM*
KLOS
KLSX
KQLZ (Pirate Radio)
KRTH
KROQ

KMPC-FM/KEDG's playlist was an amalgamation of all of those other stations' playlists, and thus had the most "variety" of them all, so it was the weakest station that was (so unfortunately) the easiest to replace.

* By the time KEDG switched formats to KLIT in the spring of 1989, Mellow Rock KNX-FM had already switched to an oldies format a few months earlier so was no longer competition, but they were during most of the two years KMPC-FM/KEDG was on the air.
The other thing, Flip, is that Golden West chose that timing. KLOS had been in the format since 1971 (1969 if you want to count "Love" on KABC-FM). KROQ had been around since its return in late 1975. KKHR went back to KNX-FM in May of 1986. KLSX debuted in September of '86.

What told Golden West that album rock of any stripe was a better move in the fall of '87 than putting GWB's bucks behind promotion of The Quiet Storm? Especially in a city with already shifting demos?
 
And Pirate Radio didn't sign on until March 17 of 1989. It was K-Lite during the time we're talking about.

Also not sure you can count KRTH as competition for the KMPC-FM/KEDG audience.
You could absolutely count KRTH as competition as they absolutely shared a certain % of the playlist. KMPC-FM/KEDG played lots of 60s oldies, and remember KRTH's playlist was was much more expansive at the time.

As for Pirate, yes only a two month overlap, but we are talking about a station that was only on for two years in the first place. I switched back and forth between the two myself.
 
The other thing, Flip, is that Golden West chose that timing. KLOS had been in the format since 1971 (1969 if you want to count "Love" on KABC-FM). KROQ had been around since its return in late 1975. KKHR went back to KNX-FM in May of 1986. KLSX debuted in September of '86.

What told Golden West that album rock of any stripe was a better move in the fall of '87 than putting GWB's bucks behind promotion of The Quiet Storm? Especially in a city with already shifting demos?
GWB always had a much harder time with its FM properties than 710 AM, KMPC. The "Station of the Stars", which was considered the Gold Standard in radio broadcasting for many years.

As to your point that GWB picked the timing, well, yeah. They launched a new rock station when rock had already started going downhill. But again, because their format was essentially that of the rock "variety" station, it was the weakest of the group of stations I listed. Didn't help that the station had zero promotion from GWB. I was lucky enough to find it early on the old fashioned way - by channel flipping!
 
GWB always had a much harder time with its FM properties than 710 AM, KMPC. The "Station of the Stars", which was considered the Gold Standard in radio broadcasting for many years.

As to your point that GWB picked the timing, well, yeah. They launched a new rock station when rock had already started going downhill. But again, because their format was essentially that of the rock "variety" station, it was the weakest of the group of stations I listed. Didn't help that the station had zero promotion from GWB. I was lucky enough to find it early on the old fashioned way - by channel flipping!
Not just when rock had already started going downhill, but when five stations (six if you count KRTH) were already occupying some part of the format they were aiming at.
 
GWB always had a much harder time with its FM properties than 710 AM, KMPC. The "Station of the Stars", which was considered the Gold Standard in radio broadcasting for many years.

As to your point that GWB picked the timing, well, yeah. They launched a new rock station when rock had already started going downhill. But again, because their format was essentially that of the rock "variety" station, it was the weakest of the group of stations I listed. Didn't help that the station had zero promotion from GWB. I was lucky enough to find it early on the old fashioned way - by channel flipping!
Yes, 710 KMPC, and 560 KSFO were the MOR stations by which all others would judged...thank you Jim Lange!
 
* By the time KEDG switched formats to KLIT in the spring of 1989, Mellow Rock KNX-FM had already switched to an oldies format a few months earlier so was no longer competition, but they were during most of the two years KMPC-FM/KEDG was on the air.
Please... it was "K-LIT" and never KLIT. Firings were threatened each time the hyphen was removed from the letters mounted on the wall of the building!
 
Please... it was "K-LIT" and never KLIT. Firings were threatened each time the hyphen was removed from the letters mounted on the wall of the building!
Dyslexia kicked in, I read that and thought it was what Scottish guys wear.....KILT.
Man, the imaging lines flying fast and furious through my head if it didn't have that hyphen in K-LIT..........
 
As to your point that GWB picked the timing, well, yeah. They launched a new rock station when rock had already started going downhill. But again, because their format was essentially that of the rock "variety" station, it was the weakest of the group of stations I listed. Didn't help that the station had zero promotion from GWB. I was lucky enough to find it early on the old fashioned way - by channel flipping!
Three of us, Richard Heftel, Bill Tanner and I sat in the office of the manager of KSCA (appropriately located almost next to the entrance to Forrest Lawn / Hollywood Hills) on the day of the transfer. We were wished good fortune, but told that the station had never been successful because the signal was just not good enough to "come down off the mountain".

In the first full book, "La Nueva" was #1 in everything that mattered.

This was a good lesson in "if you think you can't win, you won't".

On that same visit, we watched some employees of the old format sawing out huge sections of drywall in the entrance area where all the big artists of AAA who were still alive had signed the wall.
 
Three of us, Richard Heftel, Bill Tanner and I sat in the office of the manager of KSCA (appropriately located almost next to the entrance to Forrest Lawn / Hollywood Hills) on the day of the transfer. We were wished good fortune, but told that the station had never been successful because the signal was just not good enough to "come down off the mountain".

In the first full book, "La Nueva" was #1 in everything that mattered.

This was a good lesson in "if you think you can't win, you won't".

On that same visit, we watched some employees of the old format sawing out huge sections of drywall in the entrance area where all the big artists of AAA who were still alive had signed the wall.

Any chance one of your first acts was tossing KSCA's audio processor in the dumpster out back, or at least significantly redesigning its settings? I distinctly remember how flat and lifeless their processing sounded when I followed Dr. Demento to KSCA from KLSX. It sounded exactly like they never dumped the gear/settings that were being used by the previous KLIT format.
 
Any chance one of your first acts was tossing KSCA's audio processor in the dumpster out back, or at least significantly redesigning its settings? I distinctly remember how flat and lifeless their processing sounded when I followed Dr. Demento to KSCA from KLSX. It sounded exactly like they never dumped the gear/settings that were being used by the previous KLIT format.
KSCA was under a multi-year LMA that was part of Gene Autry's estate planning. So the gear at the transmitter was initially theirs, but it was reset for the new Regional Mexican format.
 
Any chance one of your first acts was tossing KSCA's audio processor in the dumpster out back, or at least significantly redesigning its settings? I distinctly remember how flat and lifeless their processing sounded when I followed Dr. Demento to KSCA from KLSX. It sounded exactly like they never dumped the gear/settings that were being used by the previous KLIT format.
I was told back in the day by a well-known chief engineer of a competing station that after the 101.9 KUTE xmitter was moved off of Flint Peak to Mt. Wilson and therefore had to reduce that great 82 kW from Flint down to just 600 Watts or so to operate from Wilson, the audio processor was set so that the dynamic range of the station would not exceed about 4 dB. This meant that the needle on the modulation monitor would indicate essentially 100% modulation almost 100% of the time, and supposedly make the station stand out easier (louder) as you tune across the band looking for something to listen to. Unfortunately, this type of setting has been shown to create terrible listener fatigue...but alas, I guess if the listener can make it past 5 minutes for the book, that's all that matters.
 
Three of us, Richard Heftel, Bill Tanner and I sat in the office of the manager of KSCA (appropriately located almost next to the entrance to Forrest Lawn / Hollywood Hills) on the day of the transfer. We were wished good fortune, but told that the station had never been successful because the signal was just not good enough to "come down off the mountain".

In the first full book, "La Nueva" was #1 in everything that mattered.

This was a good lesson in "if you think you can't win, you won't".

On that same visit, we watched some employees of the old format sawing out huge sections of drywall in the entrance area where all the big artists of AAA who were still alive had signed the wall.
How was the launch after the laugh track stunt?
 
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