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WLW transmitter site

It should be Joni Mitchell's version.....
An original --- like "The Nation's Station"!!
Too bad they can't fire up the 500 kw relic......!!;)
 

This is kind of sad
There are a few other threads about this same subject here on RadioDiscussions, including WLW's current and expected nighttime coverage as a result of the mall complex moving in and displacing at least some ground radials. Here's a link to one such thread:
 
There will be RF problems with every piece of electronic equipment in close proximity to the tower or ground radials.
This is very true, as any of us who've worked at stations where the studios are located adjacent to the tower(s) can attest. I once worked at a combo AM/FM which had studios/offices at the same site as the tower. The RF interference was a constant battle for the engineers.
 
It should be Joni Mitchell's version.....

Nah! I like The Neighborhood's version better. Never heard the original till 10 years later.
 
Too bad they can't fire up the 500 kw relic.

Be interesting if a old, pissed-off WLW station engineer angry about what they've done to it cranked it up and melted the electronics of every business around the tower and set everyone's hair on fire. Yeah, I know it's probably disconnected with parts missing, but it'd be glorious for a few brief moments.
 
Maybe the ghost of Powell Crosley still is on that property and will get his revenge on what they did to tarnish the big one once The Nation's Station
 
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I guess there must be no rule against building a few feet from a 50kw transmitter tower with radials under your feet due to the RF emissions but I wouldn't want to be going in to work at one of those businesses every day.
 
I guess there must be no rule against building a few feet from a 50kw transmitter tower with radials under your feet due to the RF emissions but I wouldn't want to be going in to work at one of those businesses every day.
Didn't WSB do something similar to what is going on with WLW and has their transmitter and tower behind a shopping center
 
I guess there must be no rule against building a few feet from a 50kw transmitter tower with radials under your feet due to the RF emissions but I wouldn't want to be going in to work at one of those businesses every day.
Sadly, it'll probably turn out the same way as the handfulls of housing developments where the construction happens and the buildings pop up decades after the tower was there and the signal was being transmitted, and the residents and businesses who came long after the tower will start griping and bitching and start a campaign to make the tower go away as it's a threat to their health, safety and well-being...and oh yeah - they're wildlife and bird lovers and the tower is killing them off, too. Even more reason for it to be toppled.
 
Didn't WSB do something similar to what is going on with WLW and has their transmitter and tower behind a shopping center?

Behind? Try in the middle! 33°50'38.4"N 84°15'11.7"W You can actually do a street view on Google Maps, their car/motorcycle/bike/tricycle/Hot Wheels or whatever they were using drives around the parking lot and you can see it's smack dab in the middle.
 
.and oh yeah - they're wildlife and bird lovers and the tower is killing them off, too. Even more reason for it to be toppled.
I "love" the bird argument.

In over 60 years in broadcasting in about 20 countries... and many of those years in engineering... I never, ever saw a dead bird around a tower. And that includes AM and FM sites from Mt Wilson in LA to Campo de Mayo in Argentina... with AMs from 1 kw to 100 kw and FMs from 100 watts to 200 kw.
 
I think much of the bird argument is what I call the fallacy of big numbers.
50 million bird deaths a year from towers seems like a tragedy.
In the context of world bird population of at least 50 billion, and natural death/birth of a least 5 billion a year, things are put into perspective.
 
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Too bad they can't fire up the 500 kw relic.

Be interesting if a old, pissed-off WLW station engineer angry about what they've done to it cranked it up and melted the electronics of every business around the tower and set everyone's hair on fire. Yeah, I know it's probably disconnected with parts missing, but it'd be glorious for a few brief moments.
The 500,000 W transmitter has long been gutted, and is not in any position to be fired up and put on the air. WLW did put its old Western El citric 50k transmitter on the air to ring in the year 2000.
 
I think much of the bird argument is what I call the fallacy of big numbers.
50 million bird deaths a year from towers seems like a tragedy.
In the context of world bird population of at least 50 billion, and natural death/birth of a least 5 billion a year, things are put into perspective.
I have had more birds fly into my big 12' high sliding door/ windows facing my back yard in the last 6 years than I ever saw at dozens of transmitter sites.

At our unipole-in-the-lake in Lake City, FL, we did have birds build nests in the tower, though.
 
In over 60 years in broadcasting in about 20 countries... and many of those years in engineering... I never, ever saw a dead bird around a tower.

That's because they didn't know they were dead until shortly after their wings quit working and they nose-dived into the ground several hundred feet away from the tower.
 
When I was a child my family traveled to Clearwater Florida to spend a couple of weeks with an aunt and uncle.I would sit out on their deck at night with my portable transistor radio and listen to the Reds on 700 WLW.
Every now and then the signal would get a little noisy but for the most part it was clear as a bell.
I wonder how far the signal would be clear at night now?
 
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