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Harvey_Dogg
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Wow! The test failed to send the audio message to millions of people. And people here want to argue about it. Wow! I rest my case. It flopped.
Finding out where systems do not work was the actual purpose of the test. A test is done to see if things all work; the result is finding what needs to be improved, fixed or changed.Wow! The test failed to send the audio message to millions of people. And people here want to argue about it. Wow! I rest my case. It flopped.
Funny that you assumed I was talking about successful monthly tests. I wasn't.Local weekly or monthly tests aren't national tests. A national test covers much more real estate. And just because you have successful weekly or monthly tests in your local area, doesn't mean it will be as successful nationwide.
I get it; those who have no idea how the system works, or the complexity therein, are first to criticize testing. So far you haven't answered my question: How do you expect to identify potentially broken links in a system unless you test it?Wow! The test failed to send the audio message to millions of people. And people here want to argue about it. Wow! I rest my case. It flopped.
Monthly tests are more complex than what a radio station issues as a weekly test. Every single state, county, city, town, and municipality has EAS equipment. Along with the local NWS offices, and of course, every public and commercial broadcast station, cable TV head end, and even SiriusXM locations in Atlanta, NYC, Los Angeles, and Washington D.C. So, given all the entities with EAS equipment used to forward, or initiate a monthly test, you don't expect something in the chain could get broken? And how would you know what link is potentially broken, if you don't test?Funny that you assumed I was talking about successful monthly tests. I wasn't.
My experience with the monthly tests is checkered at best, especially in the 90s and 2000s, before the internet alert monitoring.
What cheek! You haven't addressed the problem, the cause, or offered a solution. You are only good at taking pot shots at people and. that is not supposed to be allowed.I get it; those who have no idea how the system works, or the complexity therein, are first to criticize testing. So far you haven't answered my question: How do you expect to identify potentially broken links in a system unless you test it?
You never answered any of my questions. Even a simple one like: How can you determine where problems are if you don't test?What cheek! You haven't addressed the problem, the cause, or offered a solution. You are only good at taking pot shots at people and. that is not supposed to be allowed.
I find it fascinating that you think the EAS is working and fixable. Maybe that's the real disconnect here.
Dutchman and I both write to you from small market America, and I understand you and David have worked for large broadcasters in major markets. I have no idea how well the EAS works in Los Angeles or New York, but I'm sure KFI puts more effort into maintaining their EAS equipment, and all other parts of their physical plant than, say WASK AM/FM, the Class C AM/Class A FM combo that serves as LP1 for the Lafayette, Indiana market.
I've worked with stations in markets as small as Lake City, FL (where?) and very remote and isolated ones like El Paso. And, of course, with stations nearly 1000 miles to the Southeast of the Florida coast were nothing works as well as predicted, ever.I find it fascinating that you think the EAS is working and fixable. Maybe that's the real disconnect here.
Dutchman and I both write to you from small market America, and I understand you and David have worked for large broadcasters in major markets. I have no idea how well the EAS works in Los Angeles or New York, but I'm sure KFI puts more effort into maintaining their EAS equipment, and all other parts of their physical plant than, say WASK AM/FM, the Class C AM/Class A FM combo that serves as LP1 for the Lafayette, Indiana market.
I've worked with stations in markets as small as Lake City, FL (where?) and very remote and isolated ones like El Paso. And, of course, with stations nearly 1000 miles to the Southeast of the Florida coast were nothing works as well as predicted, ever.
Now that I truly believe. Is Santa Claus your nearest neighbor?El Paso's got nothing on my stations remoteness and isolation
Now that I truly believe. Is Santa Claus your nearest neighbor?
Hee hee. That is why I asked about Santa being a neighbor. I think every "lower 48" DXer would love to hear a station licensed to "North Pole".No, but i can hear KJNP 1170 North Pole 300 miles away before the sun rises in the winter, does that count?
The point is that we do tests to find deficiencies so they can be fixed.
The issues with the EAS gear are not generally at the station level where the gear is pretty foolproof. It is at the distribution points and regional hubs. Those are run by the government agencies, not private radio and TV and communications companies.
You know this how? Do you have anything to do with a PEP station? Monthly test are sent at the state/county level not at the Federal/FEMA level. So you really don't know all the moving pieces and how it works. Do you even know your own states EAS plan. It varies state to state. If you were actually in charge of logging EAS and doing the paper work at your stations, you would know that the agency that did not send the RMT is supposed to give a reason why the test was not run, and you are to put that reason on the weekly EAS print out/paperwork. If your stations were not logging the reason they did not get a RMT then the stations EAS logging and verification system is broken and subject to FCC fine.I mean, obviously there are problems with the communications between FEMA and the PEP stations, and that was the object of the test last week.
Hee hee. That is why I asked about Santa being a neighbor. I think every "lower 48" DXer would love to hear a station licensed to "North Pole".
When I was DXing from Cleveland, I had to settle for Fairbanks. Nowhere near the mystique.
For a start, you admitted it this morning. Second, it's obvious from the tests through the years.You know this how? Do you have anything to do with a PEP station?
Trust me, I do. I really don't appreciate you and Kelly presuming anyone who considers the operation of the system poor just don't understand how it's supposed to work.Monthly test are sent at the state/county level not at the Federal/FEMA level. So you really don't know all the moving pieces and how it works.
Yes, I am very aware of my state's EAS plan, and all of its revisions since the early 2000s.Do you even know your own states EAS plan. It varies state to state. If you were actually in charge of logging EAS and doing the paper work at your stations, you would know that the agency that did not send the RMT is supposed to give a reason why the test was not run, and you are to put that reason on the weekly EAS print out/paperwork. If your stations were not logging the reason they did not get a RMT then the stations EAS logging and verification system is broken and subject to FCC fine.
Which, of course, defeats the purpose.Use the EAS encoder to retransmit the header codes and
two-tone attention signal. LP-1 stations will originate the
RMT whenever a scheduled State test is not received
from the State Primary.
It was a test that was relayed, ergo it was a test for everyone.EAS works and does save lives, weather warnings are an example of that. Flying_Dutchman what is the testing criteria? Again this was not a test for you to participate in. I would encourage you to read your states EAS plan. It would give you insight on how it works.