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K283CH 104-5 Alvin

Next time you have it on, that is. I hope you feel better soon.
 
And to add to this topic, they're planning to start a Regional Mexican station also .
 
In case there are any doubts...

..then please allow me to take them all away from anyone living outside of Houston, and to anyone reading this message that would be in a position at the Federal Communications Commission to deny the construction permit for K283CH Alvin, Texas as the licensee is currently broadcasting from the Wells Fargo building in downtown Houston Texas (appreciate the correction, Frog) as of Thursday, September 17, 2015 by at least 6:30am. They are already broadcasting from the tower, whether or not they only have an application filed and not a granted construction permit to operate from this site. It is. Loud and clearly. David, this is an illegally broadcasting translator operating as a second adjacent to your company's legal licensed operation, KAMA-FM Deer Park, at channel 287.

Without a construction permit in hand, they are already broadcasting from the site they've only applied for, not the one they are licensed to be broadcasting from. I don't think any of us can make it any clearer than that.

I mean, that's just down right brazen to plop that thing into a city of over 2.5 million strong, without having the proper authorization to do so, and think nobody is going to notice.
 
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Strong, solid signal on 104.5 while driving near downtown during both the morning and evening rush hours today. K283CH is definitely NOT coming from Alvin.

Didn't hear any announcements or ID. Brief pauses between songs.
 
Strong, solid signal on 104.5 while driving near downtown during both the morning and evening rush hours today. K283CH is definitely NOT coming from Alvin.

Didn't hear any announcements or ID. Brief pauses between songs.

None, Frog. I've been listening to it since I headed home from work. That's nearly 3 hours now. No mention of calls, COL, nothing.

Can you blame 'em?? That'd be like leaving fingerprints behind at the scene.
 
...and just like that, K283CH is now a dead carrier at 7:45pm.

Someone might just be a radiodiscussions.com fan...
 
And just moments after my call it is silent....

...and now it's off the air completely. Heard the audio drop, sat silent for a few, then poof!

No more K283CH on the dial.

Joe, you are one interesting dude. I swear, I don't know whether to stand up and give you a one man ovatian, or jump in the car and run like hell.
 
Besides he used church donations to start a secular radio station, shame on him for breaking 3 rules.
 
Besides he used church donations to start a secular radio station, shame on him for breaking 3 rules.

It's entirely possible that the "secular" radio station is intended to produce revenue that will sustain church operations in the future. There is no "rule" being broken there.
 


It's entirely possible that the "secular" radio station is intended to produce revenue that will sustain church operations in the future. There is no "rule" being broken there.


There is when you're asking for Donations to (upgrade the antenna to cover all Houston North, South, East, West) so he goes on air on TV and Radio asking for people to Plant The Seed Of Faith as he was calling it so God can bless you and you're family. I don't know of a Christian God that would approve of Church Money being used to built a Secular Station. And to add to it a PIRATE ONE. And what about the other plans they had of starting a Regional Mexican station here in Houston and one in Dallas? They're planning to upgrade all their stations and convert them to Secular stations too?
 
I have a question for David and/or Frog. Off today, I had a little time to research the application site. The coordinates listed for K283CH, show it on Travis St., atop the JPMorgan Chase Building in downtown Houston.

See here: http://fccdata.org/?facid=146522

Where did Wells Fargo come into play? I had thought that the Wells Fargo site has been empty since KAMA-FM left it to co-habitat with KLTN/KCOH. David, you previously stated that I was incorrect that the antenna is located on Chase, but the site listed IS Chase. Is there something I have overlooked, another change for the translator that I'm unable to find information on?
 
I have a question for David and/or Frog. Off today, I had a little time to research the application site. The coordinates listed for K283CH, show it on Travis St., atop the JPMorgan Chase Building in downtown Houston.

See here: http://fccdata.org/?facid=146522

Where did Wells Fargo come into play? I had thought that the Wells Fargo site has been empty since KAMA-FM left it to co-habitat with KLTN/KCOH. David, you previously stated that I was incorrect that the antenna is located on Chase, but the site listed IS Chase. Is there something I have overlooked, another change for the translator that I'm unable to find information on?

There was a comment earlier that the K283CH and KMAZ operations were "coupled up from the start." I was pointing out that the two stations are on different buildings (KMAZ is on Wells Fargo while K283CH is supposedly from Chase) so I don't think one has anything to do with the other.

Was hearing an open carrier on 104.5 earlier this morning at my Cy-Fair location.
 
Where did Wells Fargo come into play? I had thought that the Wells Fargo site has been empty since KAMA-FM left it to co-habitat with KLTN/KCOH. David, you previously stated that I was incorrect that the antenna is located on Chase, but the site listed IS Chase. Is there something I have overlooked, another change for the translator that I'm unable to find information on?

I did not mean that you were incorrect about the location. What I was trying to say is that the location of the CP (which is not licensed) is Alvin and that the station can not be at the Chase location (or anywhere else other than Alvin and the old licensed location in Brazoria County) until it has a CP to construct and test.
 


It's entirely possible that the "secular" radio station is intended to produce revenue that will sustain church operations in the future. There is no "rule" being broken there.

A major example of this is Bonneville International, whose broadcast properties provide income for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormons.) Anyone dealing with them is (or should be) aware of this.
 
I don't know of a Christian God that would approve of Church Money being used to built a Secular Station. And to add to it a PIRATE ONE.

It happens all the time in all areas of business: a church runs a for-profit business to sustain works of the church. The congregation invests in the building of the business so that they will benefit spiritually in the future.

Many congregations that have unused funds make investments in stocks and bonds. The investment may be intended to fund future growth, to endow church programs or to create a steady income through up and down economic times. Perfectly normal.

I once programmed an AM and FM owned by a large Catholic diocese. The AM was pastoral, while the FM was commercial and was intended to provide income to sustain the operation of the AM.
 


I did not mean that you were incorrect about the location. What I was trying to say is that the location of the CP (which is not licensed) is Alvin and that the station can not be at the Chase location (or anywhere else other than Alvin and the old licensed location in Brazoria County) until it has a CP to construct and test.

Then, unless there has been a facilities move granted that has not been made public by the FCC, we are talking about an illegal operation on 104.5. When I was near downtown yesterday the signal was blasting in with NO dropouts, as clean as a FM signal could be. Definitely NOT from a 250 watt transmitter 20 miles to the south.
 
I should also point out it has been mere days since the FCC website was worked on. There may be a little backlog that hasn't been updated. And sometimes an application falls through the cracks. On a visit to Nashville several years back, I am scanning the dial and find WPFD in Fairview on the air but an expired license on the FCC database. I emailed the FCC and found they were licensed, that the renewal had not made it to the online database. It doesn't happen often.

Many non-profits have a for profit entity. The line is not always clear. If a non-profit has a frequency and they lease it to a for profit entity, or secular broadcaster, as long as the frequency is commercial, nothing wrong with that. I know one instance where a non-commercial FM uses a for profit company to provide their programming. In other words, the non-profit is a client. They have a nice professional sounding non-commercial community station with the over the air content provided by a group owner commercial entity. Even if the non-profit runs a secular format on one of their holdings, no rules broken here. There are several Church owned LPFMs doing secular formats on their stations. Except for their Sunday morning worship service, you'd never know and even then, they had likely bought time to air their service on a secular station in their pre-LPFM days.
 
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