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One of the Biggest Cable Companies Says Cable TV Isn’t Working / Can ESPN Survive?

You make this too easy. Ever hear of Josh Harris? He founded Apollo Management. He now owns the Washington Commanders.

That's true, but I wasn't talking about team ownership.
 

Disney and Charter finally end their cable TV fight—with Charter getting the streaming services it wanted​

Disney and Charter Communications announced a “transformative” agreement on Monday, putting an end to a closely watched dispute over the future of cable TV with significant implications for the so-called streaming wars amid a historic double strike in Hollywood.
Charter had taken the unprecedented step of blacking out all Disney-owned channels for its cable customers, a previously unthinkable step considering the latter has one of the traditional Big Three broadcasting channels in ABC and the cable sports giant ESPN.
In the "wholesale agreement," Charter received its main request: free access to Disney’s streaming services for its customers. Charter cable customers will now have access to the ad-supported versions of Disney+ and ESPN+, according to the announcement. The financial terms of the agreement were not released.
Charter customers will also get free access to an upcoming direct-to-consumer version of ESPN, when it is released, one of the first indications that the much-speculated DTC version of ESPN is indeed in the works. No timeline was provided for the release of this new ESPN service.
Disney CEO Bob Iger and Charter CEO Chris Winfrey called the agreement “an innovative model for the future,” in a joint statement.
The deal between the two companies represents a concession from Disney, which for decades has been a dominant presence in cable TV
 
In the "wholesale agreement," Charter received its main request: free access to Disney’s streaming services for its customers. Charter cable customers will now have access to the ad-supported versions of Disney+ and ESPN+, according to the announcement. The financial terms of the agreement were not released.

Don’t we think other cable operators will ask for this ASAP? Similarly, will ad supported versions of Paramount Plus and Peacock end up on cable systems? The striking omission from Charter’s deal is the ad supported Hulu
 
Don’t we think other cable operators will ask for this ASAP? Similarly, will ad supported versions of Paramount Plus and Peacock end up on cable systems? The striking omission from Charter’s deal is the ad supported Hulu
Keep in mind that Comcast owns NBCUniversal. Until just a few months ago, Comcast customers received Peacock Premium free of charge for about 3 years - I know we used it extensively during the past 2 Olympic games to stream games and contests we were interested in. Now Xfinity X1 customers can get a selection of NBC programs but if you want either level of Peacock, you must subscribe and pay for it. At the time they first cancelled the free offering, X1 customers could get Peacock at a discounted rate for a year. If you were a premium level Comcast subscriber, you could still get Peacock free.
 
I've admittedly not been able to watch any football yet this season, college or pro, due to scheduling conflicts. Also, I know how contracts for carriage work, but I still find it pretty shocking that, throughout the day today there are several games throughout the NFL and yet ESPN isn't carrying a single one. If I'm not mistaken, games begin at 1 PM, 4 PM, 8 PM and if there are contests on the west coast, they start even later. Yet when I look at ESPN's programming schedule today, I see women's college volleyball matches at 1 PM and 3 PM then primarily docuprogramming and SportsCenter through the wee hours. On ESPN2 it's documentary type programming, boxing, UFC, X Games and other programming. No NFL football to speak of.

Is this a case of "My How Far ESPN has Fallen"??
 
Admittedly I've not been able to watch any football yet this season, college or pro, due to scheduling conflicts. Also, I know how contracts for carriage work, but still I find it pretty shocking that, throughout the day today there are several games throughout the NFL and ESPN isn't carrying a single one. If I'm not mistaken, games begin at 1 PM, 4 PM, 8 PM and if there are contests on the west coast, they start even later. Yet when I look at ESPN's programming schedule today, I see women's college volleyball matches at 1 PM and 3 PM then primarily docuprogramming and SportsCenter through the wee hours. On ESPN2 it's documentary type programming, boxing, UFC, X Games and other programming. No NFL football to speak of.

Is this a case of "My How Far ESPN has Fallen"??
No, it's a case of "The NFL requires all Sunday afternoon games to be on broadcast networks." In the early 1950s, it was regionial networks, mostly on Dumont. Then it was the NFL/NFC on CBS and the AFL/AFC on NBC, with its first few years on ABC. Now, it's CBS and Fox. ESPN has never been in that picture.
 
I've admittedly not been able to watch any football yet this season, college or pro, due to scheduling conflicts. Also, I know how contracts for carriage work, but I still find it pretty shocking that, throughout the day today there are several games throughout the NFL and yet ESPN isn't carrying a single one. If I'm not mistaken, games begin at 1 PM, 4 PM, 8 PM and if there are contests on the west coast, they start even later. Yet when I look at ESPN's programming schedule today, I see women's college volleyball matches at 1 PM and 3 PM then primarily docuprogramming and SportsCenter through the wee hours. On ESPN2 it's documentary type programming, boxing, UFC, X Games and other programming. No NFL football to speak of.

Is this a case of "My How Far ESPN has Fallen"??
ESPN has a game this morning from Europe on ESPN+ (pay provider)
ESPN carries Monday night football and has for years.
 
What you're missing is the Sunday morning game, Atlanta @ Jacksonville in London, on ESPN+
ESPN has a game this morning from Europe on ESPN+ (pay provider)

Yeah, but that's a paid subscription service, separate from what I'm already paying for the ESPN networks via my cable bill. This snippet below is from one of the articles linked to previously in this RD thread:
When consumers pay their cable or satellite TV bills, networks get a cut, and the biggest portion is passed along to ESPN whether you watch it or not. It has long been the most expensive part of the pay-TV bundle, currently getting close to $9 per subscriber.
So I'm paying $120/year to get ESPN through my cable provider (which adds up to more than $1Bn/year to ESPN considering the amount of people paying the $9/month through their cable/satellite providers), to get crap, 2nd and 3rd tier programming (documentaries, women's college volleyball and X Games coverage) throughout the full day on a Sunday when there are both NFL and MLB games happening throughout those leagues. There outta be a law! Lol
 
Yeah, but that's a paid subscription service, separate from what I'm already paying for the ESPN networks via my cable bill.

Correct. A lot of the MLB and NHL games are only available that way. Or through various paid packages directly from those leagues. It's really all heading towards a paid streaming model rather than the networks or ESPN.

There outta be a law! Lol

Congress looked into it. As pointed out, there was congressional action about the NFL and networks:

 
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