What's the deal with this song? Has it been promoted to radio yet? How long has it been out? I don't have cable but stayed in a hotel a couple of nights last week & saw the video a few times on both CMT & GAC. The song is great. Are they familiarizing people with it with the video first then rolling it out to radio? I haven't heard it on the radio yet.
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Jace Everett's Bad Things
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middlega
Guest
> What's the deal with this song? Has it been promoted to
> radio yet? How long has it been out? I don't have cable but
> stayed in a hotel a couple of nights last week & saw the
> video a few times on both CMT & GAC. The song is great. Are
> they familiarizing people with it with the video first then
> rolling it out to radio? I haven't heard it on the radio
> yet.
>
Looks like it may have just stiffed at radio -- From his website (posted 1/10/06) ... "We are still trying desperately to get some more spins on "Bad Things" before we move on to the next single so check out my Blog on MySpace concerrning request lines for radio and TV."
> radio yet? How long has it been out? I don't have cable but
> stayed in a hotel a couple of nights last week & saw the
> video a few times on both CMT & GAC. The song is great. Are
> they familiarizing people with it with the video first then
> rolling it out to radio? I haven't heard it on the radio
> yet.
>
Looks like it may have just stiffed at radio -- From his website (posted 1/10/06) ... "We are still trying desperately to get some more spins on "Bad Things" before we move on to the next single so check out my Blog on MySpace concerrning request lines for radio and TV."
K
KeithThompson
Guest
I don't like it
Just my music director's ear...but instead of the song coming off as suggestive in a fun, light-hearted sort of way (like "Honky Tonk Badonkadonk" for instance), it comes off as suggestive in a dangerous, almost sinister sort of way. It's a song that might appeal to the drunk 21 year old girl in the bar but not to her 44 year old mom who's in the target audience of the format.
> > What's the deal with this song? Has it been promoted to
> > radio yet? How long has it been out? I don't have cable
> but
> > stayed in a hotel a couple of nights last week & saw the
> > video a few times on both CMT & GAC. The song is great.
> Are
> > they familiarizing people with it with the video first
> then
> > rolling it out to radio? I haven't heard it on the radio
> > yet.
> >
>
> Looks like it may have just stiffed at radio -- From his
> website (posted 1/10/06) ... "We are still trying
> desperately to get some more spins on "Bad Things" before we
> move on to the next single so check out my Blog on MySpace
> concerrning request lines for radio and TV."
>
<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by Keith Thompson on 01/20/06 06:53 PM.</FONT></P>
Just my music director's ear...but instead of the song coming off as suggestive in a fun, light-hearted sort of way (like "Honky Tonk Badonkadonk" for instance), it comes off as suggestive in a dangerous, almost sinister sort of way. It's a song that might appeal to the drunk 21 year old girl in the bar but not to her 44 year old mom who's in the target audience of the format.
> > What's the deal with this song? Has it been promoted to
> > radio yet? How long has it been out? I don't have cable
> but
> > stayed in a hotel a couple of nights last week & saw the
> > video a few times on both CMT & GAC. The song is great.
> Are
> > they familiarizing people with it with the video first
> then
> > rolling it out to radio? I haven't heard it on the radio
> > yet.
> >
>
> Looks like it may have just stiffed at radio -- From his
> website (posted 1/10/06) ... "We are still trying
> desperately to get some more spins on "Bad Things" before we
> move on to the next single so check out my Blog on MySpace
> concerrning request lines for radio and TV."
>
<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by Keith Thompson on 01/20/06 06:53 PM.</FONT></P>
R
radiochickpa
Guest
Re: I don't like it
> Just my music director's ear...but instead of the song
> coming off as suggestive in a fun, light-hearted sort of way
> (like "Honky Tonk Badonkadonk" for instance), it comes off
> as suggestive in a dangerous, almost sinister sort of way.
> It's a song that might appeal to the drunk 21 year old girl
> in the bar but not to her 44 year old mom who's in the
> target audience of the format.
>
It is a little sinister. If it was a little lighter, I'd really
like it.
> Just my music director's ear...but instead of the song
> coming off as suggestive in a fun, light-hearted sort of way
> (like "Honky Tonk Badonkadonk" for instance), it comes off
> as suggestive in a dangerous, almost sinister sort of way.
> It's a song that might appeal to the drunk 21 year old girl
> in the bar but not to her 44 year old mom who's in the
> target audience of the format.
>
It is a little sinister. If it was a little lighter, I'd really
like it.
Re: I don't like it
> It is a little sinister. If it was a little lighter, I'd
> really
> like it.
Yes I guess the song is a bit lecherous. It didn't strike me like that watching the video but in the same hour as Jesus Take The Wheel & When I Get Where I'm Going, maybe Badonkadonk is the way to go since the kids miss the point of the song anyway.
> It is a little sinister. If it was a little lighter, I'd
> really
> like it.
Yes I guess the song is a bit lecherous. It didn't strike me like that watching the video but in the same hour as Jesus Take The Wheel & When I Get Where I'm Going, maybe Badonkadonk is the way to go since the kids miss the point of the song anyway.
upon futher review..
this song is too good for radio. its not cheap washed out pop music. its rockin country. and most industry people wouldnt touch it..as seen by the previous post. if you are new and good..and not pop..you want get on the radio..you can hear the song on xm12 cross country btw..<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by smashedcd on 02/06/06 05:13 AM.</FONT></P>
this song is too good for radio. its not cheap washed out pop music. its rockin country. and most industry people wouldnt touch it..as seen by the previous post. if you are new and good..and not pop..you want get on the radio..you can hear the song on xm12 cross country btw..<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by smashedcd on 02/06/06 05:13 AM.</FONT></P>
K
KeithThompson
Guest
Re: upon futher review..
If I was programming a edgy country station going after younger demos, I'd consider playing this because that's the audience this song is aimed at. The station I work for is geared toward the upper end of the 25-54 demo and I don't think this song would work for that demo, especially women. That doesn't mean I don't like the song, I'm just interested in playing what I think our listeners will like...not on forcing what I like on them.
As for the "if you're new and good...and not pop...you won't get on the radio" comment, isn't it a shame that we've missed out on artists like Gretchen Wilson, Joe Nichols, Jason Aldean, Craig Morgan, Josh Turner, Jamey Johnson, etc.? Puh-leeze!
> this song is too good for radio. its not cheap washed out
> pop music. its rockin country. and most industry people
> wouldnt touch it..as seen by the previous post. if you are
> new and good..and not pop..you want get on the radio..you
> can hear the song on xm12 cross country btw..
>
If I was programming a edgy country station going after younger demos, I'd consider playing this because that's the audience this song is aimed at. The station I work for is geared toward the upper end of the 25-54 demo and I don't think this song would work for that demo, especially women. That doesn't mean I don't like the song, I'm just interested in playing what I think our listeners will like...not on forcing what I like on them.
As for the "if you're new and good...and not pop...you won't get on the radio" comment, isn't it a shame that we've missed out on artists like Gretchen Wilson, Joe Nichols, Jason Aldean, Craig Morgan, Josh Turner, Jamey Johnson, etc.? Puh-leeze!
> this song is too good for radio. its not cheap washed out
> pop music. its rockin country. and most industry people
> wouldnt touch it..as seen by the previous post. if you are
> new and good..and not pop..you want get on the radio..you
> can hear the song on xm12 cross country btw..
>
Re: upon futher review..
yea well what about hank 3, shooter jennings(album version not the pop version you guys out on the radio), cross canadian ragweed, buddy miller, julie miller, the new merle haggard, the new willie nelson, the new george jones..should i go on...i hate what the country industry has become..lets put the o back in cuntry..and you know what i mean!!
> If I was programming a edgy country station going after
> younger demos, I'd consider playing this because that's the
> audience this song is aimed at. The station I work for is
> geared toward the upper end of the 25-54 demo and I don't
> think this song would work for that demo, especially women.
> That doesn't mean I don't like the song, I'm just interested
> in playing what I think our listeners will like...not on
> forcing what I like on them.
>
> As for the "if you're new and good...and not pop...you won't
> get on the radio" comment, isn't it a shame that we've
> missed out on artists like Gretchen Wilson, Joe Nichols,
> Jason Aldean, Craig Morgan, Josh Turner, Jamey Johnson,
> etc.? Puh-leeze!
>
>
> > this song is too good for radio. its not cheap washed out
> > pop music. its rockin country. and most industry people
> > wouldnt touch it..as seen by the previous post. if you are
>
> > new and good..and not pop..you want get on the radio..you
> > can hear the song on xm12 cross country btw..
> >
>
<P ID="signature">______________
note to the NAB..satellite radio..its worth paying for!!</P>
yea well what about hank 3, shooter jennings(album version not the pop version you guys out on the radio), cross canadian ragweed, buddy miller, julie miller, the new merle haggard, the new willie nelson, the new george jones..should i go on...i hate what the country industry has become..lets put the o back in cuntry..and you know what i mean!!
> If I was programming a edgy country station going after
> younger demos, I'd consider playing this because that's the
> audience this song is aimed at. The station I work for is
> geared toward the upper end of the 25-54 demo and I don't
> think this song would work for that demo, especially women.
> That doesn't mean I don't like the song, I'm just interested
> in playing what I think our listeners will like...not on
> forcing what I like on them.
>
> As for the "if you're new and good...and not pop...you won't
> get on the radio" comment, isn't it a shame that we've
> missed out on artists like Gretchen Wilson, Joe Nichols,
> Jason Aldean, Craig Morgan, Josh Turner, Jamey Johnson,
> etc.? Puh-leeze!
>
>
> > this song is too good for radio. its not cheap washed out
> > pop music. its rockin country. and most industry people
> > wouldnt touch it..as seen by the previous post. if you are
>
> > new and good..and not pop..you want get on the radio..you
> > can hear the song on xm12 cross country btw..
> >
>
<P ID="signature">______________
note to the NAB..satellite radio..its worth paying for!!</P>
K
KeithThompson
Guest
Re: upon futher review..
Yeah, I know what you mean but if we were to give Shooter's debut album title on the air, some of our listeners would chew us out and sic the FCC on us! By the way, you may not be aware of it, but his album title is a play on the Carlene Carter statement that shook up the establishment back in the 70s when she wanted to put the c*** into country!
You've made it quite clear that you don't like country radio, but by making blanket statements that we don't give new country sounding artists a chance in favor of pop sounding artists, you're letting the facts get in the way of an argument. There's an awful lot of "pop" sounding new major and indie label country stuff out there you've likely never heard of simply because we haven't played them either. I respect your opinion and your musical tastes, but for you it's easy to be an armchair radio programmer since you're not in danger of losing your job if you're wrong. At least you're not reciting bogus pledges and citing country artist boycotts of country radio, like a certain poster in the allaboutcountry.com vent section does.
By the way, we got the new Shooter Jennings single "Aviator" today (from his upcoming new album), and if you like this one...I may start questioning your musical tastes. It's awful.
> yea well what about hank 3, shooter jennings(album version
> not the pop version you guys out on the radio), cross
> canadian ragweed, buddy miller, julie miller, the new merle
> haggard, the new willie nelson, the new george jones..should
> i go on...i hate what the country industry has become..lets
> put the o back in cuntry..and you know what i mean!!
>
>
> > If I was programming a edgy country station going after
> > younger demos, I'd consider playing this because that's
> the
> > audience this song is aimed at. The station I work for is
>
> > geared toward the upper end of the 25-54 demo and I don't
> > think this song would work for that demo, especially
> women.
> > That doesn't mean I don't like the song, I'm just
> interested
> > in playing what I think our listeners will like...not on
> > forcing what I like on them.
> >
> > As for the "if you're new and good...and not pop...you
> won't
> > get on the radio" comment, isn't it a shame that we've
> > missed out on artists like Gretchen Wilson, Joe Nichols,
> > Jason Aldean, Craig Morgan, Josh Turner, Jamey Johnson,
> > etc.? Puh-leeze!
> >
> >
> > > this song is too good for radio. its not cheap washed
> out
> > > pop music. its rockin country. and most industry people
> > > wouldnt touch it..as seen by the previous post. if you
> are
> >
> > > new and good..and not pop..you want get on the
> radio..you
> > > can hear the song on xm12 cross country btw..
> > >
> >
>
Yeah, I know what you mean but if we were to give Shooter's debut album title on the air, some of our listeners would chew us out and sic the FCC on us! By the way, you may not be aware of it, but his album title is a play on the Carlene Carter statement that shook up the establishment back in the 70s when she wanted to put the c*** into country!
You've made it quite clear that you don't like country radio, but by making blanket statements that we don't give new country sounding artists a chance in favor of pop sounding artists, you're letting the facts get in the way of an argument. There's an awful lot of "pop" sounding new major and indie label country stuff out there you've likely never heard of simply because we haven't played them either. I respect your opinion and your musical tastes, but for you it's easy to be an armchair radio programmer since you're not in danger of losing your job if you're wrong. At least you're not reciting bogus pledges and citing country artist boycotts of country radio, like a certain poster in the allaboutcountry.com vent section does.
By the way, we got the new Shooter Jennings single "Aviator" today (from his upcoming new album), and if you like this one...I may start questioning your musical tastes. It's awful.
> yea well what about hank 3, shooter jennings(album version
> not the pop version you guys out on the radio), cross
> canadian ragweed, buddy miller, julie miller, the new merle
> haggard, the new willie nelson, the new george jones..should
> i go on...i hate what the country industry has become..lets
> put the o back in cuntry..and you know what i mean!!
>
>
> > If I was programming a edgy country station going after
> > younger demos, I'd consider playing this because that's
> the
> > audience this song is aimed at. The station I work for is
>
> > geared toward the upper end of the 25-54 demo and I don't
> > think this song would work for that demo, especially
> women.
> > That doesn't mean I don't like the song, I'm just
> interested
> > in playing what I think our listeners will like...not on
> > forcing what I like on them.
> >
> > As for the "if you're new and good...and not pop...you
> won't
> > get on the radio" comment, isn't it a shame that we've
> > missed out on artists like Gretchen Wilson, Joe Nichols,
> > Jason Aldean, Craig Morgan, Josh Turner, Jamey Johnson,
> > etc.? Puh-leeze!
> >
> >
> > > this song is too good for radio. its not cheap washed
> out
> > > pop music. its rockin country. and most industry people
> > > wouldnt touch it..as seen by the previous post. if you
> are
> >
> > > new and good..and not pop..you want get on the
> radio..you
> > > can hear the song on xm12 cross country btw..
> > >
> >
>
Re: upon futher review..
> Yeah, I know what you mean but if we were to give Shooter's
> debut album title on the air, some of our listeners would
> chew us out and sic the FCC on us! By the way, you may not
> be aware of it, but his album title is a play on the Carlene
> Carter statement that shook up the establishment back in the
> 70s when she wanted to put the c*** into country!
>
> You've made it quite clear that you don't like country
> radio, but by making blanket statements that we don't give
> new country sounding artists a chance in favor of pop
> sounding artists, you're letting the facts get in the way of
> an argument. There's an awful lot of "pop" sounding new
> major and indie label country stuff out there you've likely
> never heard of simply because we haven't played them either.
> I respect your opinion and your musical tastes, but for you
> it's easy to be an armchair radio programmer since you're
> not in danger of losing your job if you're wrong. At least
> you're not reciting bogus pledges and citing country artist
> boycotts of country radio, like a certain poster in the
> allaboutcountry.com vent section does.
>
> By the way, we got the new Shooter Jennings single "Aviator"
> today (from his upcoming new album), and if you like this
> one...I may start questioning your musical tastes. It's
> awful.
Keith, How do you all pick what new artists you will try, considering the amount of new talent being shoved at us day in and day out?
> > > As for the "if you're new and good...and not pop...you
> > won't
> > > get on the radio" comment, isn't it a shame that we've
> > > missed out on artists like Gretchen Wilson, Joe Nichols,
>
> > > Jason Aldean, Craig Morgan, Josh Turner, Jamey Johnson,
> > > etc.? Puh-leeze!
I know this ain't a new artist, but I'm thinking what about Lee Ann Womack? She's reinvented herself basically with her sound twice...
She was hard core country originally ..went pop country for a few albums (with "I hope you Dance" minus the Sons in the desert backup is still played on a/c radio) then reinvented again going for true hard core country with a sound and album cover reminiscent of the nashville sound days. Not to mention the fact that her vocals were on Cross Canadian Ragweed's Bigest hit (Sick and Tired) which is a departure considering their country/rock slant to country music (even though I will admit I'm a fan of their's)..actually I think she's had the most success as a hard core country artist however IMO
RFLA
> Yeah, I know what you mean but if we were to give Shooter's
> debut album title on the air, some of our listeners would
> chew us out and sic the FCC on us! By the way, you may not
> be aware of it, but his album title is a play on the Carlene
> Carter statement that shook up the establishment back in the
> 70s when she wanted to put the c*** into country!
>
> You've made it quite clear that you don't like country
> radio, but by making blanket statements that we don't give
> new country sounding artists a chance in favor of pop
> sounding artists, you're letting the facts get in the way of
> an argument. There's an awful lot of "pop" sounding new
> major and indie label country stuff out there you've likely
> never heard of simply because we haven't played them either.
> I respect your opinion and your musical tastes, but for you
> it's easy to be an armchair radio programmer since you're
> not in danger of losing your job if you're wrong. At least
> you're not reciting bogus pledges and citing country artist
> boycotts of country radio, like a certain poster in the
> allaboutcountry.com vent section does.
>
> By the way, we got the new Shooter Jennings single "Aviator"
> today (from his upcoming new album), and if you like this
> one...I may start questioning your musical tastes. It's
> awful.
Keith, How do you all pick what new artists you will try, considering the amount of new talent being shoved at us day in and day out?
> > > As for the "if you're new and good...and not pop...you
> > won't
> > > get on the radio" comment, isn't it a shame that we've
> > > missed out on artists like Gretchen Wilson, Joe Nichols,
>
> > > Jason Aldean, Craig Morgan, Josh Turner, Jamey Johnson,
> > > etc.? Puh-leeze!
I know this ain't a new artist, but I'm thinking what about Lee Ann Womack? She's reinvented herself basically with her sound twice...
She was hard core country originally ..went pop country for a few albums (with "I hope you Dance" minus the Sons in the desert backup is still played on a/c radio) then reinvented again going for true hard core country with a sound and album cover reminiscent of the nashville sound days. Not to mention the fact that her vocals were on Cross Canadian Ragweed's Bigest hit (Sick and Tired) which is a departure considering their country/rock slant to country music (even though I will admit I'm a fan of their's)..actually I think she's had the most success as a hard core country artist however IMO
RFLA
K
KeithThompson
Guest
Re: upon futher review..
Part of it by ear...if something catches our attention and we think it will work with our listeners, we'll get it on the air fairly quickly.
Part of it is from our listeners...if lots of them hear something elsewhere that we've missed or were wrong about, we'll get it on the air.
Part of it is chart watching...knowing songs are consistantly gaining ground in other markets makes one more comfortable about it working in your own market.
Right now, the country music product is so good (except that smashedcd would disagree) that good stuff is passed over for great stuff. We're genuinely adding songs that we think could be hits rather than filling spaces on our playlist because there's room.
> > Yeah, I know what you mean but if we were to give
> Shooter's
> > debut album title on the air, some of our listeners would
> > chew us out and sic the FCC on us! By the way, you may
> not
> > be aware of it, but his album title is a play on the
> Carlene
> > Carter statement that shook up the establishment back in
> the
> > 70s when she wanted to put the c*** into country!
> >
> > You've made it quite clear that you don't like country
> > radio, but by making blanket statements that we don't give
>
> > new country sounding artists a chance in favor of pop
> > sounding artists, you're letting the facts get in the way
> of
> > an argument. There's an awful lot of "pop" sounding new
> > major and indie label country stuff out there you've
> likely
> > never heard of simply because we haven't played them
> either.
> > I respect your opinion and your musical tastes, but for
> you
> > it's easy to be an armchair radio programmer since you're
> > not in danger of losing your job if you're wrong. At least
>
> > you're not reciting bogus pledges and citing country
> artist
> > boycotts of country radio, like a certain poster in the
> > allaboutcountry.com vent section does.
> >
> > By the way, we got the new Shooter Jennings single
> "Aviator"
> > today (from his upcoming new album), and if you like this
> > one...I may start questioning your musical tastes. It's
> > awful.
>
> Keith, How do you all pick what new artists you will try,
> considering the amount of new talent being shoved at us day
> in and day out?
>
>
> > > > As for the "if you're new and good...and not pop...you
>
> > > won't
> > > > get on the radio" comment, isn't it a shame that we've
>
> > > > missed out on artists like Gretchen Wilson, Joe
> Nichols,
> >
> > > > Jason Aldean, Craig Morgan, Josh Turner, Jamey
> Johnson,
> > > > etc.? Puh-leeze!
>
> I know this ain't a new artist, but I'm thinking what about
> Lee Ann Womack? She's reinvented herself basically with her
> sound twice...
>
> She was hard core country originally ..went pop country for
> a few albums (with "I hope you Dance" minus the Sons in the
> desert backup is still played on a/c radio) then reinvented
> again going for true hard core country with a sound and
> album cover reminiscent of the nashville sound days. Not to
> mention the fact that her vocals were on Cross Canadian
> Ragweed's Bigest hit (Sick and Tired) which is a departure
> considering their country/rock slant to country music (even
> though I will admit I'm a fan of their's)..actually I think
> she's had the most success as a hard core country artist
> however IMO
>
> RFLA
>
Part of it by ear...if something catches our attention and we think it will work with our listeners, we'll get it on the air fairly quickly.
Part of it is from our listeners...if lots of them hear something elsewhere that we've missed or were wrong about, we'll get it on the air.
Part of it is chart watching...knowing songs are consistantly gaining ground in other markets makes one more comfortable about it working in your own market.
Right now, the country music product is so good (except that smashedcd would disagree) that good stuff is passed over for great stuff. We're genuinely adding songs that we think could be hits rather than filling spaces on our playlist because there's room.
> > Yeah, I know what you mean but if we were to give
> Shooter's
> > debut album title on the air, some of our listeners would
> > chew us out and sic the FCC on us! By the way, you may
> not
> > be aware of it, but his album title is a play on the
> Carlene
> > Carter statement that shook up the establishment back in
> the
> > 70s when she wanted to put the c*** into country!
> >
> > You've made it quite clear that you don't like country
> > radio, but by making blanket statements that we don't give
>
> > new country sounding artists a chance in favor of pop
> > sounding artists, you're letting the facts get in the way
> of
> > an argument. There's an awful lot of "pop" sounding new
> > major and indie label country stuff out there you've
> likely
> > never heard of simply because we haven't played them
> either.
> > I respect your opinion and your musical tastes, but for
> you
> > it's easy to be an armchair radio programmer since you're
> > not in danger of losing your job if you're wrong. At least
>
> > you're not reciting bogus pledges and citing country
> artist
> > boycotts of country radio, like a certain poster in the
> > allaboutcountry.com vent section does.
> >
> > By the way, we got the new Shooter Jennings single
> "Aviator"
> > today (from his upcoming new album), and if you like this
> > one...I may start questioning your musical tastes. It's
> > awful.
>
> Keith, How do you all pick what new artists you will try,
> considering the amount of new talent being shoved at us day
> in and day out?
>
>
> > > > As for the "if you're new and good...and not pop...you
>
> > > won't
> > > > get on the radio" comment, isn't it a shame that we've
>
> > > > missed out on artists like Gretchen Wilson, Joe
> Nichols,
> >
> > > > Jason Aldean, Craig Morgan, Josh Turner, Jamey
> Johnson,
> > > > etc.? Puh-leeze!
>
> I know this ain't a new artist, but I'm thinking what about
> Lee Ann Womack? She's reinvented herself basically with her
> sound twice...
>
> She was hard core country originally ..went pop country for
> a few albums (with "I hope you Dance" minus the Sons in the
> desert backup is still played on a/c radio) then reinvented
> again going for true hard core country with a sound and
> album cover reminiscent of the nashville sound days. Not to
> mention the fact that her vocals were on Cross Canadian
> Ragweed's Bigest hit (Sick and Tired) which is a departure
> considering their country/rock slant to country music (even
> though I will admit I'm a fan of their's)..actually I think
> she's had the most success as a hard core country artist
> however IMO
>
> RFLA
>
R
RayDeeOh2004
Guest
Re: upon futher review..
> Part of it by ear...if something catches our attention and
> we think it will work with our listeners, we'll get it on
> the air fairly quickly.
>
> Part of it is from our listeners...if lots of them hear
> something elsewhere that we've missed or were wrong about,
> we'll get it on the air.
>
> Part of it is chart watching...knowing songs are
> consistantly gaining ground in other markets makes one more
> comfortable about it working in your own market.
>
> Right now, the country music product is so good (except that
> smashedcd would disagree) that good stuff is passed over for
> great stuff. We're genuinely adding songs that we think
> could be hits rather than filling spaces on our playlist
> because there's room.
>
I agree with Keith on all fronts. Alot of it has to do with how your radio station is doing as well. In my case we've been blessed with good ratings for a long time. From a business stand point why take a "risk" on a new artist before he or she has been proven to be a asset to you station? Just because you like it or you want to try and "make" a Shooter Jennings or Cross Canadian Ragweed?
If you're competeing against a programmer like Keith or myself then YES! take a calculated risk like that. If you aren't it's bad business.
> Part of it by ear...if something catches our attention and
> we think it will work with our listeners, we'll get it on
> the air fairly quickly.
>
> Part of it is from our listeners...if lots of them hear
> something elsewhere that we've missed or were wrong about,
> we'll get it on the air.
>
> Part of it is chart watching...knowing songs are
> consistantly gaining ground in other markets makes one more
> comfortable about it working in your own market.
>
> Right now, the country music product is so good (except that
> smashedcd would disagree) that good stuff is passed over for
> great stuff. We're genuinely adding songs that we think
> could be hits rather than filling spaces on our playlist
> because there's room.
>
I agree with Keith on all fronts. Alot of it has to do with how your radio station is doing as well. In my case we've been blessed with good ratings for a long time. From a business stand point why take a "risk" on a new artist before he or she has been proven to be a asset to you station? Just because you like it or you want to try and "make" a Shooter Jennings or Cross Canadian Ragweed?
If you're competeing against a programmer like Keith or myself then YES! take a calculated risk like that. If you aren't it's bad business.
the sound of true country xm 10 america
i know you guys dont like me or my opinions
..thats why i have xm..xm 10 america and xm 12 nashville are great stations..they both play shooter and ragweed ..oh well thanks for turning me on to some new music via this thread!!
> > Part of it by ear...if something catches our attention and
>
> > we think it will work with our listeners, we'll get it on
> > the air fairly quickly.
> >
> > Part of it is from our listeners...if lots of them hear
> > something elsewhere that we've missed or were wrong about,
>
> > we'll get it on the air.
> >
> > Part of it is chart watching...knowing songs are
> > consistantly gaining ground in other markets makes one
> more
> > comfortable about it working in your own market.
> >
> > Right now, the country music product is so good (except
> that
> > smashedcd would disagree) that good stuff is passed over
> for
> > great stuff. We're genuinely adding songs that we think
> > could be hits rather than filling spaces on our playlist
> > because there's room.
> >
>
> I agree with Keith on all fronts. Alot of it has to do with
> how your radio station is doing as well. In my case we've
> been blessed with good ratings for a long time. From a
> business stand point why take a "risk" on a new artist
> before he or she has been proven to be a asset to you
> station? Just because you like it or you want to try and
> "make" a Shooter Jennings or Cross Canadian Ragweed?
>
> If you're competeing against a programmer like Keith or
> myself then YES! take a calculated risk like that. If you
> aren't it's bad business.
>
<P ID="signature">______________
note to the NAB..satellite radio..its worth paying for!!</P>
i know you guys dont like me or my opinions
..thats why i have xm..xm 10 america and xm 12 nashville are great stations..they both play shooter and ragweed ..oh well thanks for turning me on to some new music via this thread!!> > Part of it by ear...if something catches our attention and
>
> > we think it will work with our listeners, we'll get it on
> > the air fairly quickly.
> >
> > Part of it is from our listeners...if lots of them hear
> > something elsewhere that we've missed or were wrong about,
>
> > we'll get it on the air.
> >
> > Part of it is chart watching...knowing songs are
> > consistantly gaining ground in other markets makes one
> more
> > comfortable about it working in your own market.
> >
> > Right now, the country music product is so good (except
> that
> > smashedcd would disagree) that good stuff is passed over
> for
> > great stuff. We're genuinely adding songs that we think
> > could be hits rather than filling spaces on our playlist
> > because there's room.
> >
>
> I agree with Keith on all fronts. Alot of it has to do with
> how your radio station is doing as well. In my case we've
> been blessed with good ratings for a long time. From a
> business stand point why take a "risk" on a new artist
> before he or she has been proven to be a asset to you
> station? Just because you like it or you want to try and
> "make" a Shooter Jennings or Cross Canadian Ragweed?
>
> If you're competeing against a programmer like Keith or
> myself then YES! take a calculated risk like that. If you
> aren't it's bad business.
>
<P ID="signature">______________
note to the NAB..satellite radio..its worth paying for!!</P>
K
KeithThompson
Guest
Re: the sound of true country xm 10 america
I disagree with your opinion of today's country music...I don't have anything against you personally.
> i know you guys dont like me or my opinions..thats why i
> have xm..xm 10 america and xm 12 nashville are great
> stations..they both play shooter and ragweed..oh well
> thanks for turning me on to some new music via this thread!!
>
>
>
>
> > > Part of it by ear...if something catches our attention
> and
> >
> > > we think it will work with our listeners, we'll get it
> on
> > > the air fairly quickly.
> > >
> > > Part of it is from our listeners...if lots of them hear
> > > something elsewhere that we've missed or were wrong
> about,
> >
> > > we'll get it on the air.
> > >
> > > Part of it is chart watching...knowing songs are
> > > consistantly gaining ground in other markets makes one
> > more
> > > comfortable about it working in your own market.
> > >
> > > Right now, the country music product is so good (except
> > that
> > > smashedcd would disagree) that good stuff is passed over
>
> > for
> > > great stuff. We're genuinely adding songs that we think
> > > could be hits rather than filling spaces on our playlist
>
> > > because there's room.
> > >
> >
> > I agree with Keith on all fronts. Alot of it has to do
> with
> > how your radio station is doing as well. In my case we've
> > been blessed with good ratings for a long time. From a
> > business stand point why take a "risk" on a new artist
> > before he or she has been proven to be a asset to you
> > station? Just because you like it or you want to try and
> > "make" a Shooter Jennings or Cross Canadian Ragweed?
> >
> > If you're competeing against a programmer like Keith or
> > myself then YES! take a calculated risk like that. If you
> > aren't it's bad business.
> >
>
I disagree with your opinion of today's country music...I don't have anything against you personally.
> i know you guys dont like me or my opinions
..thats why i> have xm..xm 10 america and xm 12 nashville are great
> stations..they both play shooter and ragweed
..oh well> thanks for turning me on to some new music via this thread!!
>
>
>
>
> > > Part of it by ear...if something catches our attention
> and
> >
> > > we think it will work with our listeners, we'll get it
> on
> > > the air fairly quickly.
> > >
> > > Part of it is from our listeners...if lots of them hear
> > > something elsewhere that we've missed or were wrong
> about,
> >
> > > we'll get it on the air.
> > >
> > > Part of it is chart watching...knowing songs are
> > > consistantly gaining ground in other markets makes one
> > more
> > > comfortable about it working in your own market.
> > >
> > > Right now, the country music product is so good (except
> > that
> > > smashedcd would disagree) that good stuff is passed over
>
> > for
> > > great stuff. We're genuinely adding songs that we think
> > > could be hits rather than filling spaces on our playlist
>
> > > because there's room.
> > >
> >
> > I agree with Keith on all fronts. Alot of it has to do
> with
> > how your radio station is doing as well. In my case we've
> > been blessed with good ratings for a long time. From a
> > business stand point why take a "risk" on a new artist
> > before he or she has been proven to be a asset to you
> > station? Just because you like it or you want to try and
> > "make" a Shooter Jennings or Cross Canadian Ragweed?
> >
> > If you're competeing against a programmer like Keith or
> > myself then YES! take a calculated risk like that. If you
> > aren't it's bad business.
> >
>
Re: the sound of true country xm 10 america
> I disagree with your opinion of today's country music...I
> don't have anything against you personally.
>
>
> > i know you guys dont like me or my opinions..thats why
> i
> > have xm..xm 10 america and xm 12 nashville are great
> > stations..they both play shooter and ragweed..oh well
> > thanks for turning me on to some new music via this
> thread!!
Thanks for the reply from everyone... I know the first time I heard sugarland I thought , oh great, not another wanna be pop group that has decided to go country before being finally pushed onto the a/c charts like Shania ..But listening more I've grown to really like them.
But anyhow, I had an idea while reading this back and forth... With country radio having so many countdown shows, and 1 aimed at Nascar among others, I haven't ever heard of one aimed at Y'allternative sort of like what Little steven's underground garage does for some acts on rock radio.
Say a 2 hour program, aimed on sunday nights, so your daypart p1s aren't really aware of the program but can bring in people who normally shun the station such as smashedcd... I mean look at the album that won best grammy? Alison Krauss and Union station...I love her music , but off their award winner "Lonely runs both ways" How many played songs off of it? Probably just "restless" right, if that?
Have a program of Americana,Alternative country, and Bluegrass just say. "This show has been prescreened for top 40 country hits which have been propely removed for your protection"
Suprised Premeier or ABC hasn't really jumped on it yet...
What's ya'll thoughts on something like this?
RFLA
> I disagree with your opinion of today's country music...I
> don't have anything against you personally.
>
>
> > i know you guys dont like me or my opinions
..thats why> i
> > have xm..xm 10 america and xm 12 nashville are great
> > stations..they both play shooter and ragweed
..oh well> > thanks for turning me on to some new music via this
> thread!!
Thanks for the reply from everyone... I know the first time I heard sugarland I thought , oh great, not another wanna be pop group that has decided to go country before being finally pushed onto the a/c charts like Shania ..But listening more I've grown to really like them.
But anyhow, I had an idea while reading this back and forth... With country radio having so many countdown shows, and 1 aimed at Nascar among others, I haven't ever heard of one aimed at Y'allternative sort of like what Little steven's underground garage does for some acts on rock radio.
Say a 2 hour program, aimed on sunday nights, so your daypart p1s aren't really aware of the program but can bring in people who normally shun the station such as smashedcd... I mean look at the album that won best grammy? Alison Krauss and Union station...I love her music , but off their award winner "Lonely runs both ways" How many played songs off of it? Probably just "restless" right, if that?
Have a program of Americana,Alternative country, and Bluegrass just say. "This show has been prescreened for top 40 country hits which have been propely removed for your protection"
Suprised Premeier or ABC hasn't really jumped on it yet...
What's ya'll thoughts on something like this?
RFLA
K
KeithThompson
Guest
Re: the sound of true country xm 10 america
I don't think there's enough of an audience for it, at least on mainstream country radio. Also, the dynamics of the mainstream country audience is different than the rock audience. Rock audiences tend to be a little more "hip" and therefore more likely to embrace an alternative show like Underground Garage, than mainstream country audiences would be likely to embrace an alt country show. I find that most alt country and younger bluegrass fans tend to be more like rock/alt rock listeners than mainstream country listeners and are more likely to have grown up as rock fans than as mainstream country fans. Oddly enough, I think such a show is a better fit on a triple-A formatted station, rather than country.
I do like the idea of an alt-country format as a secondary webcast for a country station.
> > I disagree with your opinion of today's country music...I
> > don't have anything against you personally.
> >
> >
> > > i know you guys dont like me or my opinions..thats
> why
> > i
> > > have xm..xm 10 america and xm 12 nashville are great
> > > stations..they both play shooter and ragweed..oh well
>
> > > thanks for turning me on to some new music via this
> > thread!!
>
>
> Thanks for the reply from everyone... I know the first time
> I heard sugarland I thought , oh great, not another wanna be
> pop group that has decided to go country before being
> finally pushed onto the a/c charts like Shania ..But
> listening more I've grown to really like them.
>
> But anyhow, I had an idea while reading this back and
> forth... With country radio having so many countdown shows,
> and 1 aimed at Nascar among others, I haven't ever heard of
> one aimed at Y'allternative sort of like what Little
> steven's underground garage does for some acts on rock
> radio.
>
> Say a 2 hour program, aimed on sunday nights, so your
> daypart p1s aren't really aware of the program but can bring
> in people who normally shun the station such as smashedcd...
> I mean look at the album that won best grammy? Alison Krauss
> and Union station...I love her music , but off their award
> winner "Lonely runs both ways" How many played songs off of
> it? Probably just "restless" right, if that?
>
> Have a program of Americana,Alternative country, and
> Bluegrass just say. "This show has been prescreened for top
> 40 country hits which have been propely removed for your
> protection"
>
> Suprised Premeier or ABC hasn't really jumped on it yet...
>
> What's ya'll thoughts on something like this?
>
> RFLA
>
I don't think there's enough of an audience for it, at least on mainstream country radio. Also, the dynamics of the mainstream country audience is different than the rock audience. Rock audiences tend to be a little more "hip" and therefore more likely to embrace an alternative show like Underground Garage, than mainstream country audiences would be likely to embrace an alt country show. I find that most alt country and younger bluegrass fans tend to be more like rock/alt rock listeners than mainstream country listeners and are more likely to have grown up as rock fans than as mainstream country fans. Oddly enough, I think such a show is a better fit on a triple-A formatted station, rather than country.
I do like the idea of an alt-country format as a secondary webcast for a country station.
> > I disagree with your opinion of today's country music...I
> > don't have anything against you personally.
> >
> >
> > > i know you guys dont like me or my opinions
..thats> why
> > i
> > > have xm..xm 10 america and xm 12 nashville are great
> > > stations..they both play shooter and ragweed
..oh well>
> > > thanks for turning me on to some new music via this
> > thread!!
>
>
> Thanks for the reply from everyone... I know the first time
> I heard sugarland I thought , oh great, not another wanna be
> pop group that has decided to go country before being
> finally pushed onto the a/c charts like Shania ..But
> listening more I've grown to really like them.
>
> But anyhow, I had an idea while reading this back and
> forth... With country radio having so many countdown shows,
> and 1 aimed at Nascar among others, I haven't ever heard of
> one aimed at Y'allternative sort of like what Little
> steven's underground garage does for some acts on rock
> radio.
>
> Say a 2 hour program, aimed on sunday nights, so your
> daypart p1s aren't really aware of the program but can bring
> in people who normally shun the station such as smashedcd...
> I mean look at the album that won best grammy? Alison Krauss
> and Union station...I love her music , but off their award
> winner "Lonely runs both ways" How many played songs off of
> it? Probably just "restless" right, if that?
>
> Have a program of Americana,Alternative country, and
> Bluegrass just say. "This show has been prescreened for top
> 40 country hits which have been propely removed for your
> protection"
>
> Suprised Premeier or ABC hasn't really jumped on it yet...
>
> What's ya'll thoughts on something like this?
>
> RFLA
>
Re: upon futher review..
> By the way, we got the new Shooter Jennings single "Aviator"
> today (from his upcoming new album), and if you like this
> one...I may start questioning your musical tastes. It's
> awful.
Heard the song "Aviator" finally..sounds more like he's trying to sound like George Jones through parts of the song, and someone else I can't place exactly in other parts... sounds like he was aiming for 1979 in sound for sure.
I like it, it's a slow paced song (But then I'm probably wider range in my country listening..way wider than smashedcd for sure) but I agree it would never fit on most country radio today. (except some that play Texas music,XM, and that sort)
RFLA
> By the way, we got the new Shooter Jennings single "Aviator"
> today (from his upcoming new album), and if you like this
> one...I may start questioning your musical tastes. It's
> awful.
Heard the song "Aviator" finally..sounds more like he's trying to sound like George Jones through parts of the song, and someone else I can't place exactly in other parts... sounds like he was aiming for 1979 in sound for sure.
I like it, it's a slow paced song (But then I'm probably wider range in my country listening..way wider than smashedcd for sure) but I agree it would never fit on most country radio today. (except some that play Texas music,XM, and that sort)
RFLA
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