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Even Channel 955 Detroit Is Adding Back Non-Rhythmic Hits!

C

CHRles

Following in the footsteps of 102.7 KIIS-FM L.A., Channel 955 Detroit is now yet another CHR/Pop station opening up its playlist to non-Rhythmic hits.
Green Day's "Wake Me Up When September Ends" is Top 10, Nickleback's "Photograph" vault's on the station's airplay chart from 29 to 15, and Weezer's "Beverly Hills" makes the station's Top 20 (last week it was the 41st most played song on the station with a mere 8 spins!).

As I've already reported a few days ago, 104.7 Kiss FM Phoenix has ALSO added back some non/Rhythmic hits.
 
> Following in the footsteps of 102.7 KIIS-FM L.A., Channel
> 955 Detroit is now yet another CHR/Pop station opening up
> its playlist to non-Rhythmic hits.
> Green Day's "Wake Me Up When September Ends" is Top 10,
> Nickleback's "Photograph" vault's on the station's airplay
> chart from 29 to 15, and Weezer's "Beverly Hills" makes the
> station's Top 20 (last week it was the 41st most played song
> on the station with a mere 8 spins!).
>
> As I've already reported a few days ago, 104.7 Kiss FM
> Phoenix has ALSO added back some non/Rhythmic hits.
>
channel 95.5 was always a chr/pop station<P ID="signature">______________
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</P>
 
> Following in the footsteps of 102.7 KIIS-FM L.A., Channel
> 955 Detroit is now yet another CHR/Pop station opening up
> its playlist to non-Rhythmic hits.
> Green Day's "Wake Me Up When September Ends" is Top 10,
> Nickleback's "Photograph" vault's on the station's airplay
> chart from 29 to 15, and Weezer's "Beverly Hills" makes the
> station's Top 20 (last week it was the 41st most played song
> on the station with a mere 8 spins!).
>
> As I've already reported a few days ago, 104.7 Kiss FM
> Phoenix has ALSO added back some non/Rhythmic hits.
>
Its almost winter. Winter can be associated with rock tracks.


In the summer of 2004 when I got a chance to hear them, KZZP "1047 KISS FM" had

Hoobastank
Ryan Cabrera
Switchfoot
Maroon 5
Avril Lavigne
Ashlee Simpson

in Rotation as well as some older No Doubt<P ID="signature">______________

AIM: JeremyA1069</P>
 
> channel 95.5 was always a chr/pop station
>
Yes it was! That's not the point here.
In the past 6-12 months WKQI has played little to no non-Rhythmic hits, or gave them very little spins.
Such was the case in recent months with 102.7 KIIS-FM Los Angeles, a station the whole industry had noticed went more Rhythmic.
Well now, Channel 95-5, like 102.7 KIIS-FM, has gone back to a more balanced sound. It's mainstreamed a bit.<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by CHRles on 10/06/05 12:52 PM.</FONT></P>
 
> In the summer of 2004 when I got a chance to hear them, KZZP
> "1047 KISS FM" had
>
> Hoobastank
> Ryan Cabrera
> Switchfoot
> Maroon 5
> Avril Lavigne
> Ashlee Simpson
>
> in Rotation as well as some older No Doubt
>

And in 1988 KZZP was one of the first to play Roxette's "The Look".
So what - that was then, this is now ;)

In the past couple of years 104-7 Kiss FM has managed to move from Rhythmic to Mainstream, then back to Rhythmic, then back to Mainstream, then Rhythmic leaning CHR/Pop (Arbitron and the Trades have a hard time keeping up). It is still a Rhythmic leaning CHR/Pop, but now it's not exclusively playing Rhythmic titles anymore (again!).
<P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by CHRles on 10/06/05 01:36 AM.</FONT></P>
 
> > In the summer of 2004 when I got a chance to hear them,
> KZZP
> > "1047 KISS FM" had
> >
> > Hoobastank
> > Ryan Cabrera
> > Switchfoot
> > Maroon 5
> > Avril Lavigne
> > Ashlee Simpson
> >
> > in Rotation as well as some older No Doubt
> >
>
> And in 1988 KZZP was one of the first to play Roxette's "The
> Look".
> So what - that was then, this is now ;)
>
> In the past couple of years 104-7 Kiss FM has managed to
> move from Rhythmic to Mainstream, then back to Rhythmic,
> then back to Mainstream, then Rhythmic leaning CHR/Pop
> (Arbitron and the Trades have a hard time keeping up). It is
> still a Rhythmic leaning CHR/Pop, but now it's not
> exclusively playing Rhythmic titles anymore (again!).
>

Reminds me of WBBM-FM Chicago "B96" They were regular CHR from 1992-1988 or so. Then they crossed between dance, rhythmic, urban and CHR.

1998:

Aerosmith
Celine Dion
Eagle Eye Cherry

After 1998-Pure rhythmic

2002:
Nickelback
Creed
Avril Lavigne
Michelle Branch
No Doubt
Vanessa Carlton
Linkin Park

2003: Pure Rhythmic

2004: Hoobastank - The Reason

2005: Green Day - Boulevard Of Broken Dreams
<P ID="signature">______________

AIM: JeremyA1069</P>
 
> > channel 95.5 was always a chr/pop station
> >
> Yes it was! That's not the point here.
> In the past 6-12 months WKQI has played little to no
> non-Rhythmic hits, or gave them very little spins.
> Such was the case in recent months with 102.7 KIIS-FM Los
> Angeles, a station the whole industry had noticed went more
> Rhythmic.
> Well now, Channel 95-5, like 102.7 KIIS-FM, has gone back to
> a more balanced sounds. It's mainstream a bit.
>

See.. this is the thing. You can't base a stations play list by what you see are the top 30 songs played listed on mediabase.

I questioned you the other day about ZZP in AZ and you came back with the "oh you don't post on this board therefore your post means nothing" type response. Bull crap. That's like a third grader saying to another third grader "this is my playground and you go home." Childish.

Now I split my time between Phoenix and Detroit. And yet again you are dead wrong on this. WKQI has been a top-40 leaning station since about late 2003. Green Day's biggest outlet here in Detroit has been WQKI. Same goes for Mariah Carey, Nickelback, Weezer, and last but not least Kelly Clarkson. All summer long, if you wanted to hear D.H.T.. you guessed it.. only heard it on Channel. And their recurrents have tremendously gone up since WDRQ left us on April 1st.

I find it really hard for you to post about stations that you can't even hear locally. Yes I know you can chime in online, but it seems your more obsessed with stations in Greece.


With all due respect, stick to something you know all the facts about. And I would say Phoenix and Detroit radio are not two of them.
 
Please leave your jealousy at the door.

FACT: WKQI and KZZP are two of the most Rhythmic Leaning Mainstream CHRs in the country...alongside stations like 106.7 Kiss FM Rochester.
While stations like Z-100 New York, Q-102 Philadelphia, or 101.3 KDWB play more then one Rock hit in rotation, and give such titles more then 10 spins a week, the same didn't usually hold true for Channel or kiss Phoenix. Now that is changing again.

FACT: Your knowledge of CHR radio pales in comparison to mine, regardless of the city :) Deal with it.

PS You're dead wrong when you say things like WKQI has been CHR/Pop since 2003. It's been CHR/Pop MUCH longer then that. <P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by CHRles on 10/06/05 12:54 PM.</FONT></P>
 
Who cares? I mean, really.

Markets are different. Stations are different. Some are more rhythmic leaning than others. Much of that has to do with market, available audience, competitive scenarios, etc.

Notice that these stations are playing rock records that are becoming proven hits. Is THAT the basis of CHR radio in the first place?

The only people who care about how a station "leans" or reports are record companies. Believe me, listeners don't care. They only care if you're playing their favorite songs. They listen to ONE market of radio stations, not a country's worth. To them, KQI IS the top 40.

So what if they don't play a lot of rock? If the songs are hits, then to me, they still fit the mold. If people were kicking and screaming for rock stuff, they'd play more rock, I'm sure. To play rock songs that aren't hits just for the sake of playing rock music and "balance" is stupid.

Can you think of an example of a rock record that was a real hit, and DIDN'T get played on the station? I doubt it.

I'm sure you're a nice guy, Les, but to suggest that you're the end-all-be-all guru of CHR is pretty stupid. You say stuff like that, and I think of a guy who lives in his mom's basement and thinks he knows everything because he reads it online. Have you ever even HAD a job in radio? CHR? Guess I missed the post where you graced us with your resume.

Having knowledge is one thing. To suggest that you know what's right for particular stations having never been there...well, I'd be pretty embarassed if I ran my mouth off like that. After all, I assume that was your point in the first place, right? It's good that KQI is adding/increasing rock records, because that's what a good little CHR would do...

Yikes.
 
> Who cares? I mean, really.
>
> Markets are different. Stations are different. Some are
> more rhythmic leaning than others. Much of that has to do
> with market, available audience, competitive scenarios, etc.
>
>
> Notice that these stations are playing rock records that are
> becoming proven hits. Is THAT the basis of CHR radio in the
> first place?
>
> The only people who care about how a station "leans" or
> reports are record companies.

True and some of them record companies "folks" read these boards. As do CHR "geeks" such as you and me.

> So what if they don't play a lot of rock? If the songs are
> hits, then to me, they still fit the mold. If people were
> kicking and screaming for rock stuff, they'd play more rock,
> I'm sure. To play rock songs that aren't hits just for the
> sake of playing rock music and "balance" is stupid.
>
> Can you think of an example of a rock record that was a real
> hit, and DIDN'T get played on the station? I doubt it.

Sure! :) Here are a few Rock/Pop hits (for one reason or another) Channel 955 ignored for the most part:
Killers "Somebody Told Me"
Killers "Mr. Brightside"
Ryan Cabrera "On The Way Down"
Gavin Degraw "I Don't Want To Be"

All I'm saying is that I'm noticing a trend here - a number of influential/prominent CHR/Pop stations that lean Rhythmic are opening up their playlist and sound after a period in which they've relied almost exclusively on Rhythmic hits.

If Star 94 Atlanta, which is listed as a CHR/Pop but plays little Rhythmic hits, were to start playing some Hip Hop records I'd post it as well.

>
> I'm sure you're a nice guy, Les, but to suggest that you're
> the end-all-be-all guru of CHR is pretty stupid. You say
> stuff like that, and I think of a guy who lives in his mom's
> basement and thinks he knows everything because he reads it
> online.

Nah, I live in my own condo, and work in Real Estate. I see my mom a few times a year, but thanks for playing the guessing game :)

> Having knowledge is one thing. To suggest that you know
> what's right for particular stations having never been
> there...

I never suggested anything, but rather pointed out the FACTS.

I'm sure you're a nice guy too Pizzle, and if you could try a little harder next time to use basic reading comprehension I'd appreciate it.

Love,
Charles
 
> > Who cares? I mean, really.
> >
> > Markets are different. Stations are different. Some are
> > more rhythmic leaning than others. Much of that has to do
>
> > with market, available audience, competitive scenarios,
> etc.
> >
> >
> > Notice that these stations are playing rock records that
> are
> > becoming proven hits. Is THAT the basis of CHR radio in
> the
> > first place?
> >
> > The only people who care about how a station "leans" or
> > reports are record companies.
>
> True and some of them record companies "folks" read these
> boards. As do CHR "geeks" such as you and me.
>
> > So what if they don't play a lot of rock? If the songs
> are
> > hits, then to me, they still fit the mold. If people were
>
> > kicking and screaming for rock stuff, they'd play more
> rock,
> > I'm sure. To play rock songs that aren't hits just for
> the
> > sake of playing rock music and "balance" is stupid.
> >
> > Can you think of an example of a rock record that was a
> real
> > hit, and DIDN'T get played on the station? I doubt it.
>
> Sure! :) Here are a few Rock/Pop hits (for one reason or
> another) Channel 955 ignored for the most part:
> Killers "Somebody Told Me"
> Killers "Mr. Brightside"
> Ryan Cabrera "On The Way Down"
> Gavin Degraw "I Don't Want To Be"
>
> All I'm saying is that I'm noticing a trend here - a number
> of influential/prominent CHR/Pop stations that lean Rhythmic
> are opening up their playlist and sound after a period in
> which they've relied almost exclusively on Rhythmic hits.
>
> If Star 94 Atlanta, which is listed as a CHR/Pop but plays
> little Rhythmic hits, were to start playing some Hip Hop
> records I'd post it as well.
>
> >
> > I'm sure you're a nice guy, Les, but to suggest that
> you're
> > the end-all-be-all guru of CHR is pretty stupid. You say
> > stuff like that, and I think of a guy who lives in his
> mom's
> > basement and thinks he knows everything because he reads
> it
> > online.
>
> Nah, I live in my own condo, and work in Real Estate. I see
> my mom a few times a year, but thanks for playing the
> guessing game :)
>
> > Having knowledge is one thing. To suggest that you know
> > what's right for particular stations having never been
> > there...
>
> I never suggested anything, but rather pointed out the
> FACTS.
>
> I'm sure you're a nice guy too Pizzle, and if you could try
> a little harder next time to use basic reading comprehension
> I'd appreciate it.
>
> Love,
> Charles
>

Case and point. You are not only attacking me now, but you are attacking Pizzle. Its America damnit, and other people are allowed to post intelligent messages on this board. It is not OWNED by you.
 
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