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Are 1998-2003 broadcasts of American Top 40 with Casey Kasem gone forever? Or were they hidden somewhere all along?

As stated above, some stations play the 1970s Classic American Top 40 shows and some play the 1980s versions on weekends. They are also available on a full time channel on the iHeartRadio app. Last time I checked, they don't even run commercials.

The iHeart app also has Classic Ryan Seacrest countdown shows. But I have never looked for Shadoe Stevens version or the 1998 - 2004 Westwood One editions. I assume they are NOT on the iHeart app.
 
The only available AT40 stations on iHeartRadio are the Classic American Top 40 Countdown and the Ryan Seacrest American Top 40 channel.

The Classic American Top 40 channel does NOT play every 1970-1988 show, even ones that have already have been rebroadcast on terrestrial radio. The Ryan Seacrest American Top 40 channel does not reair old shows only the latest show and I believe it's only the CHR version they play but I could be mistaken.

Copies of 1998-2004 AT40 broadcasts live on in private collections like mine and Shannon Lynn of Charis Music Group.
 
vw86 said:
The affiliate count when compared to classic AT40 isn't even close. The Casey replays have several hundred affiliates. The retro Dees shows combined, at most, have maybe 20 or 30. The 2000s shows have exactly one affiliate, and all three packages (80s, 90s & 2000s) only have 52 retro shows that then re-air each year.
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IMO that makes sense, as Kasem in general was more of a national "celebrity" and household name than Dees ever was. Back in the 80s especially, Kasem had his radio program, voiced one of the characters on Scooby Doo, hosted a few national TV shows and telethons, etc. Aside from the song Disco Duck and some relatively smaller credits, Dees didn't really have nearly the same amount of name / face recognition outside the LA market.
 
Kelly A said:
Was curious about your avatar. Do you consider yourself a Bronie?
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Original Powerpuff Girls and MLP G4 are my favorites. I'm still going through my image archives to decide on an avatar photo to pick. Maybe either between Rick Dees, Casey Kasem, Shadoe Stevens or Dick Clark.
 
NuTranscription said:
Original Powerpuff Girls and MLP G4 are my favorites. I'm still going through my image archives to decide on an avatar photo to pick. Maybe either between Rick Dees, Casey Kasem, Shadoe Stevens or Dick Clark.
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Okay, I need to say something here: I think it's inappropriate for you to use the photo of an industry professional, past or present, as your avatar. You aren't Rick Dees, nor would I imagine Rick would be fond of you using his photo. If anything, it's just creepy.
You may want to consider going back to Powerpuff Girls, Anime, or something that isn't another human for your avatar.
 
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Now that it's clear that AT40 1998-2004 shows are NOT being rebroadcast. I would like to bring up the theoretical benefits Premiere Networks has and what's Dees seems to be lacking in, and it's not just how popular Dees vs. Kasem are. A lot of this is what my opinion and my observations and aren't necessarily fact.

Premiere Networks is owned by iHeartMedia, and shows distributed by Premiere tend to air on many iHeart owned/operated stations. Premiere also has the entire library at their fingertips they can use to air. The distribution of pre-recorded shows seem to be more straightforward to affilates. One thing that can of course hold things back are the limited years to choose from, and they certainly can't air any of the CT40 and it's spinoffs (1989-1998) or Shadoe Stevens AT40 (1988-1995) as apparently those are are with rival Westwood One. AT40 shows have a fiercely loyal, sizeable fanbase and AT40FG, Facebook groups and Twitter are full of people wanting to know what the next shows are going to air or what the new chart is. I definitely don't see this with many other syndicated programming on the radio today.

Dees on the other hand is distributed domestically by Compass Media, so I don't think there's as much links between syndicator and station owners but could be wrong. Based on the stations I could find that air his shows, the kind of affilates that air his retro shows seem to be in smaller markets, load up on a ton of shows and/or the people behind them are music/show/chart junkies. BTW Dees started in '83 but only air '85--89 shows for the 80s block likely due to not having Cashbox chart rights on the '83-'85 shows.

Dees doesn't seem to have a very good archive of old shows, there have been many 80s, 90s and 2K shows they have yet to air while rotating the same shows over again for over a decade. The rotation has gotten even worse in the past 3 years on the terrestrial side airing the exact same shows every year with not even a little bit of mixing like previously. The shows that were distributed to stations via vinyl that are rebroadcast are direct transfers with little to no restoration being done, unlike Premiere does with AT40. Rick's retro shows can often have record skips, CD rip clicking noises, missing segments and other miscellaneous issues.

The file distribution of the shows to seem to be lacking too. An email from an affiliate that was posted on the AT40FG has issues with the Synchronicity and how it pushes out programming. One more thing is that more variety of shows are given on Rick Dees Hit Music App is better than even what stations get. The app offers 80s, 90s, 2K and today's shows commercial free. The retro shows on the app have more variety and can be heard on demand. I feel like any combination of these things I have brought up might be compelling reasons why affiliates might not be fond of airing the Weekly Top 40 and especially it's retro programming even when they choose to air it.
 
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Now that it's clear that AT40 1998-2004 shows are NOT being rebroadcast. I would like to bring up the theoretical benefits Premiere Networks has and what's Dees seems to be lacking in, and it's not just how popular Dees vs. Kasem are. A lot of this is what my opinion and my observations and aren't necessarily fact.
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Likely because the shows are all twenty years old, or older.
NuTranscription said:
Premiere Networks is owned by iHeartMedia, and shows distributed by Premiere tend to air on many iHeart owned/operated stations. Premiere also has the entire library at their fingertips they can use to air. The distribution of pre-recorded shows seem to be more straightforward to affilates. One thing that can of course hold things back are the limited years to choose from, and they certainly can't air any of the CT40 and it's spinoffs (1989-1998) or Shadoe Stevens AT40 (1988-1995) as apparently those are are with rival Westwood One. AT40 shows have a fiercely loyal, sizeable fanbase and AT40FG, Facebook groups and Twitter are full of people wanting to know what the next shows are going to air or what the new chart is. I definitely don't see this with many other syndicated programming on the radio today.
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Likely because all these shows are thirty years or older. That's three zero.
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Dees on the other hand is distributed domestically by Compass Media, so I don't think there's as much links between syndicator and station owners but could be wrong. Based on the stations I could find that air his shows, the kind of affilates that air his retro shows seem to be in smaller markets, load up on a ton of shows and/or the people behind them are music/show/chart junkies. BTW Dees started in '83 but only air '85--89 shows for the 80s block likely due to not having Cashbox chart rights on the '83-'85 shows.
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Likely because all those shows mentioned are almost forty years old, that's four zero.
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Dees doesn't seem to have a very good archive of old shows, there have been many 80s, 90s and 2K shows they have yet to air while rotating the same shows over again for over a decade. The rotation has gotten even worse in the past 3 years on the terrestrial side airing the exact same shows every year with not even a little bit of mixing like previously. The shows that were distributed to stations via vinyl that are rebroadcast are direct transfers with little to no restoration being done, unlike Premiere does with AT40. Rick's retro shows can often have record skips, CD rip clicking noises, missing segments and other miscellaneous issues.
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I'm sure Rick has archived copies of his shows but also knows that being they were done forty-plus years ago, it would be a tiny audience interested in revisiting those times. Sometimes you need to know when to just let things lay.
 
NuTranscription said:
The only available AT40 stations on iHeartRadio are the Classic American Top 40 Countdown and the Ryan Seacrest American Top 40 channel.

The Classic American Top 40 channel does NOT play every 1970-1988 show, even ones that have already have been rebroadcast on terrestrial radio. The Ryan Seacrest American Top 40 channel does not reair old shows only the latest show and I believe it's only the CHR version they play but I could be mistaken.

Copies of 1998-2004 AT40 broadcasts live on in private collections like mine and Shannon Lynn of Charis Music Group.
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There seems to even be a limited selection of rebroadcasts of 70s AT40s on SiriusXM 70s on 7
 
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Dees doesn't seem to have a very good archive of old shows, there have been many 80s, 90s and 2K shows they have yet to air while rotating the same shows over again for over a decade.
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The main difference between Dees & Kasem, besides the obvious, is that Dees did interviews and Kasem didn't. In my opinion there's more value in a show with artist interviews than one that's all scripted. But that's my opinion. The tempo of the Dees show was a bit more uptempo.
 
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iHeart stations can run some of them for weekend specials from what I have heard over the years. I guess they still have them
 
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What I was speaking regarding the 1998-2004 AT40 shows was merely theoretical and was to bring up fundamental differences based on how things have been done respectively.

Short answer: Yes, I understand that business is business. Long answer: Realistically it's highly unlikely they will get rebroadcasted outside of the random bonus shows that are offered already. The limited time frame window show library to choose from, doubtful demand and the serious lack of stations with formats fit to air them regularly without heavily conflicting with the format of the station is undeniable. The same can go for many old retro shows, if they exist, that won't see the light of day.

The SiriusXM 70s on 7 broadcasts of AT40 70s has done a pretty good job, at least historically. I must admit I haven't listened on XM in a few years but at least they've just about nearly exhausted playing every show of that decade just like Premiere has on terrestrial radio. They repeat the show several times each weekend and it's popular enough that even a Wheel of Casey where they play a random show on Thursdays. They don't have shows available on demand likely due to rights reasons unlike other SiriusXM chart shows. Sure, they may may edit out extras and jingles to better fit the format and flow but I find that acceptable and is justified.

I think of Dees for entertainment and Casey for information and that's heavily simplifying it.

Yes, Premiere Networks has offered select AT40 98-04 and AT10 shows as bonus shows for stations to play. They often do this for Memorial Day and Labor Day for any AT40 70s/80s affiliates that choose to air them. They're optional shows, so it can be difficult to know which stations choose to air them, especially without researching ahead of time.
 
My SXM AT40 broadcast knowledge is a little rusty but I I believe SiriusXM 70s on 7 only airs guest hosted AT40 70s shows on the Wheel of Casey block. I'm not sure if they have played any guest hosted during the weekend.

Premiere Networks does occasionally offer guest hosted shows to terrestrial stations. They are optional shows and they really only air them once right after a featured guest host pass away. Examples include Dick Clark, Mark Elliott and Gary Owens.
 
If he did, he sold his interests to Premiere/Clear Channel/iHeart long before he passed away.

Some may disagree, but I still think AT40 replays are the most valuable syndicated offering for Classic Hits. While they still may be 'filler' for many stations, it's not often in this third decade of the 21st century to have the kind of interest, conversation and reception about a weekend syndicated radio that you get from these AT40 replays.
 
Don CT said:
Did Kasem own his broadcasts?
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When Casey Kasem left Westwood One, Casey Kasem and Don Bustany acquired the rights to the American Top 40 name and branding from ABC Radio Networks in 1997 and sold the rights to AMFM Radio Networks (now Premiere Networks, owned by iHeartMedia).

This makes AT40 1970- August 6, 1988, every AT40 1998-present, every AT20 and AT10 owned by Premiere Networks. Casey's Top 40, Casey's Hot 20, Casey's Countdown, and AT40 with Shadoe Stevens are supposedly with Westwood One (owned by Cumulus Media) after all of these mergers. I fail to understand exactly why the Shadoe Stevens AT40 shows are with Cumulus but that's what's being told in AT40 groups. I have sourced this information primarily from from Rob Durkee's book, American Top 40: The Countdown of the Century, and some additional information from reading on AT40 groups over the years.
 
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