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May ratings

They will blow up 950 when they can bill better with something else. 950 "anchors" it format with Sounders soccer. 710 has Seahawks and Mariners. We saw a big blip in 710 numbers during that brief time the Mariners were "good" but now that they have returned to normal status...
 
Bongwater said:
The thing I noticed was the sudden bump-up for KIXI from 0.7 to 1.3 (plus KRWM-HD2 at 0.1)
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Two things here...

A 0.7 and a 1.1 are both within the margin of error for a lower rated station. You can actually say that a 0.6 and a 1.0 and a 0.9 and so on are the same number within the published margin of error.

Any audio service of a subscribed station that gets at least one credited incident of listening will get a default 0.1 in the book. On the other hand, an unsubscribed station has to get a 0.1 rating to appear in the subscriber numbers (and will not appear in the public release numbers at all). A 0.1 rating means the station has to be at around a 1.1 share to show.
 
When will KJR get some new blood in the PD chair? This train wreck has been going on for at least a decade now.
 
7th place for KSWD - a steady ascent back into domination. KRWM really close, just 1/10th of a point below 94.1.
Star 101.5 still awful in the ratings. Really, a 2.9? I'm guessing Hot AC is running out of steam.
 
crainbebo said:
I'm guessing Hot AC is running out of steam.
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Let's say it has limited potential right now. How's that for being diplomatic? Hot AC is CHR without the hard stuff. Or it's a younger version of AC. It's a "'tweener" format at a time when the new music isn't very exciting. When CHR is broadening it's view, there are fewer options for Hot AC. Which means the fringe formats like country benefit. Or HUR goes down.
 
MarkW said:
Country is a fringe format?
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For the most part yes...off in its own little world, somewhat isolated from mainstream. It gets good numbers because it is a consensus format that markets itself well. But when a country artist gets a pop hit, they can feel the difference.
 
TheBigA said:
Let's say it has limited potential right now. How's that for being diplomatic? Hot AC is CHR without the hard stuff. Or it's a younger version of AC. It's a "'tweener" format at a time when the new music isn't very exciting. When CHR is broadening it's view, there are fewer options for Hot AC. Which means the fringe formats like country benefit. Or HUR goes down.
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As those who are actually in the market and listen to the station know, the drop is more likely because of the morning show change.
 
TheBigA said:
I wasn't talking about the specific station, but the format.
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I wouldn't say country is a "fringe" format. Not with Pink, Gwen Stefani, Sheryl Crow and Kid Rock in it. And when you get too many pop elements in it, guess what? It's no longer country music, but pop with fiddles.

And if it's fringes you're looking for, why isn't anyone playing Orville Peck? He's one of the hottest up and coming country acts of this year (Google him.) But why isn't country radio playing him?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vR-4l5M_MQ8
 
Bongwater said:
I wouldn't say country is a "fringe" format. Not with Pink, Gwen Stefani, Sheryl Crow and Kid Rock in it. And when you get too many pop elements in it, guess what? It's no longer country music, but pop with fiddles.
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First of all, Gwen Stefani has never released a country song. She is simply Blake Shelton's girlfriend. That has no effect on music. Pink recorded a duet with Kenny Chesney, but it was Kenny's song. Sheryl Crow has done a few duets, and she's released a country album, but it got no radio airplay. Kid Rock had one hit. One song doesn't define a genre. Blake Shelton understands that country is a fringe format. Some people know his music, but everyone knows Gwen Stefani.

But you're making musicological decisions based on people, not music. That's the same process that kept Gram Parsons from getting accepted in country music. The Byrds released Sweetheart of the Rodeo 50 years ago. It was a country record, but got no country airplay, and they got boo'd off the Ryman stage. The reason was because they had long hair. It took Waylon Jennings and Willie Nelson to break the long hair rule. Then Waylon recorded songs by The Marshall Tucker, Conway Twitty record songs by The Eagles and Pointer Sisters, and they became country hits hits. None of them had fiddles in them. If Orville Peck wants a country hit, he should sing with George Strait.
 
TheBigA said:
First of all, Gwen Stefani has never released a country song. She is simply Blake Shelton's girlfriend. That has no effect on music. Pink recorded a duet with Kenny Chesney, but it was Kenny's song. Sheryl Crow has done a few duets, and she's released a country album, but it got no radio airplay. Kid Rock had one hit. One song doesn't define a genre. Blake Shelton understands that country is a fringe format. Some people know his music, but everyone knows Gwen Stefani.

But you're making musicological decisions based on people, not music. That's the same process that kept Gram Parsons from getting accepted in country music. The Byrds released Sweetheart of the Rodeo 50 years ago. It was a country record, but got no country airplay, and they got boo'd off the Ryman stage. The reason was because they had long hair. It took Waylon Jennings and Willie Nelson to break the long hair rule. Then Waylon recorded songs by The Marshall Tucker, Conway Twitty record songs by The Eagles and Pointer Sisters, and they became country hits hits. None of them had fiddles in them. If Orville Peck wants a country hit, he should sing with George Strait.
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I was going to mention, as an example, the Rolling Stones song from 1977-79(I think that's when it was)but I can't figure out what it was. It was definitely Country but probably didn't do well there because it was The Rolling Stones.
 
semoochie said:
I was going to mention, as an example, the Rolling Stones song from 1977-79(I think that's when it was)but I can't figure out what it was. It was definitely Country but probably didn't do well there because it was The Rolling Stones.
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You're probably thinking of Wild Horses. That was actually in 1971. Absolutely. Or even Bob Dylan's Lay Lady Lay. He went to Nashville, recorded three entire albums there using Nashville musicians, and still couldn't get a country hit. But by being there, he attracted a lot of other musicians, including Neil Young, James Taylor, and Linda Ronstadt, who started using Nashville musicians and recording songs that introduced their audiences to country music.
 
I thought he was referring to "Far Away Eyes" from 1978. The Some Girls LP. That's a country song.....
 
Roddybob said:
I thought he was referring to "Far Away Eyes" from 1978. The Some Girls LP. That's a country song.....
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You could be right. Ronnie Wood plays pedal steel on that one. Keith Richard is a big country fan. He recorded with George Jones. I mentioned Wild Horses because it was inspired by Gram Parsons. Johnny Cash once recorded No Expectations. Lots of examples.
 
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