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Thread: Oldies Fans what about Shortwave?

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    Oldies Fans what about Shortwave?

    WTWW 5.085 MHz plays a really good mix of oldies just about every night (Wednesday night they run some programs geared to Ham Radio operators) with one of their 100KW transmitters in Lebanon, Tennessee. Those of us who remember listening to far off AM stations via the night time sky wave can do it once more thanks to WTWW.

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    WRMI also airs oldies shows on 9395. The problem with WTWW is that, while they air an excellent oldies show, they overly pander to the bible bangers as well to the relatively few ham operators like myself that listen.

    They also sign off abruptly, with no ID whatsoever, just after 0500 UTC. I think we know now where the (in)famous Phoenix lamptimer went.
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    Although I still have to ask: Since when did the FCC authorize the 60 meter band for broadcast use?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KeithE4 View Post
    Although I still have to ask: Since when did the FCC authorize the 60 meter band for broadcast use?
    is that the FCC's call or the ITU's?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CTListener View Post
    is that the FCC's call or the ITU's?
    FCC or ITU it's the best thing we've had on Shortwave since WRNO and KUSW.

    The big question is....Isn't there an FCC rule that says US domestic shortwave stations are prohibited from targeting a domestic audience?

    Lots of FCC rules get bent and broken these days. I for one don't mind if this one gets overlooked. It sure beats the Bible thumping.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Sheridan View Post
    FCC or ITU it's the best thing we've had on Shortwave since WRNO and KUSW.

    The big question is....Isn't there an FCC rule that says US domestic shortwave stations are prohibited from targeting a domestic audience?
    Only the ones run by the government, I believe. Besides, a station that programs preaching and music can always say it's doing so to reach overseas listeners. How could the FCC prove that it isn't, since there are fans of oldies and people receptive to a Christian message all over the world?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CTListener View Post
    Only the ones run by the government, I believe. Besides, a station that programs preaching and music can always say it's doing so to reach overseas listeners. How could the FCC prove that it isn't, since there are fans of oldies and people receptive to a Christian message all over the world?
    It would be interesting to see just where people are listening.

    I have been surprised by some of the music selections. Having started out at an Oldies station in 1972 not to mention growing up on the stuff they manage to occasionally play a song or two I've never heard. A disc-covery if you will (groan). A few nights ago they played a really nice song by Ruby & The Romantics called "My Summer Love" (#16 in '63 #6 AC). I swear I never heard it before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Sheridan View Post
    It would be interesting to see just where people are listening..
    At this point, I'd be very surprised if the number listening at any one time worldwide reaches even the low four digits, although with so few broadcasters still using shortwave, there are fewer options for whatever SWLs remain.Maybe there are still places in English-speaking Africa or in the Caribbean in which American evangelical shortwavers still have a following, you never know. Domestically, I suppose the lineup of preachers may get a few listeners, as would the oldies, but there are so many religious broadcasters doing the same thing just about everywhere in this country on AM or FM that the likelihood of SW reaching a significant number of ears is remote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CTListener View Post
    is that the FCC's call or the ITU's?
    It's the FCC's. 47 CFR 73.701(a) defines an international broadcasting station as follows:

    Quote Originally Posted by FCC 73.701(a)
    International broadcast stations. A broadcasting station employing frequencies allocated to the broadcasting service between 5900 and 26100 kHz, the transmissions of which are intended to be received directly by the general public in foreign countries. (A station may be authorized more than one transmitter.) There are both Federal and non-Federal Government international broadcast stations; only the latter are licensed by the Commission and are subject to the rules of this subpart.
    73.788(a) sez:

    Quote Originally Posted by FCC 73.788(a)
    A licensee of an international broadcast station shall render only an international broadcast service which will reflect the culture of this country and which will promote international goodwill, understanding, and cooperation. Any program solely intended for and directed to an audience in the continental United States does not meet the requirements for this service.
    As far as frequency allocations in the US go, that's under 2.106. The 60 meter band (4750-5060 kHz) is not allocated for broadcasting in the US. It is allocated for non-government Maritime, Aviation, and Private Land Mobile use, plus government Fixed services. Similar allocations exist in the bands between 5060 and 5900 kHz, with a small, restricted ham band in there, shared with the military. But there are American broadcasters not only in the 60 meter band and some frequencies above it, but also in the 5700-5900 kHz segment below the "official" start of 49 meters. There are also US broadcasters in the 90 meter band (3200-3400 kHz) that technically aren't supposed to be there.

    But since nobody has raised a stink, the FCC won't do anything about it.
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    Well, old rock 'n' roll certainly reflects the culture of the United States, at least as of 40 to 60 years ago, but does evangelical preaching? Or is anything even loosely tied to Christianity protected from this statute?

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