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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBigA View Post
    I think the expense exceeds any possible benefits. In fact I haven't seen any NPR stations rushing to buy any AMs.
    WFCR took WNNZ Westfield, MA (640) off Clear Channel's hands in 2010.

  2. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by CTListener View Post
    WFCR took WNNZ Westfield, MA (640) off Clear Channel's hands in 2010.
    I'd not be surprised if WFCR were looking to sell WNNZ soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kemosabe View Post
    I'd not be surprised if WFCR were to looking to sell WNNZ soon.
    That would probably spell the end of music programming on WFCR 88.5. Strangely, New England Public Radio's news/talk programming is not on the powerhouse 88.5 signal but on 640 AM and a bunch of limited-signal FMs and translators scattered around western Massachusetts. In some areas, WNNZ is the only decent signal for the news/talk, which, I assume is why WFCR hangs on to it. WFCR carries Morning Edition and All Things Considered, but all other hours are either classical or jazz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CTListener View Post
    That would probably spell the end of music programming on WFCR 88.5.
    While that could happen, Martin Miller seems quite satisfied with the coverage afforded by his WNNZ translator network. The AM signal is expensive to operate, and its directional pattern seems optimized to reach the fewest ears possible. How long before 640 AM becomes practically worthless?
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    WNBM 103.9 does not cover the whole market, but still reaches many people. With a current overall rating of .3, it seems to be grossly underperforming. As virtually everyone in the market that listens to Urban A/C tunes in WBLS, it seems they would have little to lose by trying something else. Soft/AC appears to be on the rise. The Breeze is the #1 music station in San Francisco. The format is also gaining in Detroit and Seattle. And with WPLJ being sold, Cumulus would not need to be concerned that this format would be drawing listeners from a sister station.
    Another format I could see working on 103.9 is a variety hits format such as Jack. It did quite well in New York on 101.1 FM, even if the current classic hits programming is performing even better.

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  6. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by Kemosabe View Post

    I'd not be surprised if WFCR were looking to sell WNNZ soon.
    I'm sure they would be looking to sell if the price was right...but the price won't be right!

    (Although, didn't they get it as a charitable donation for free?)

    Quote Originally Posted by Kemosabe View Post

    and its directional pattern seems optimized to reach the fewest ears possible.
    LOL!
    Last edited by Wimmmex; 03-19-2019 at 11:30 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    WNBM 103.9 does not cover the whole market, but still reaches many people. With a current overall rating of .3, it seems to be grossly underperforming. As virtually everyone in the market that listens to Urban A/C tunes in WBLS, it seems they would have little to lose by trying something else. Soft/AC appears to be on the rise. The Breeze is the #1 music station in San Francisco. The format is also gaining in Detroit and Seattle. And with WPLJ being sold, Cumulus would not need to be concerned that this format would be drawing listeners from a sister station.
    Another format I could see working on 103.9 is a variety hits format such as Jack. It did quite well in New York on 101.1 FM, even if the current classic hits programming is performing even better.

    Signal Reaches a Large Population: https://radio-locator.com/cgi-bin/pa...NBM&service=FM
    Remember that the useful signal area on the RL maps is about 20% inside the innermost red contour. The station does not cover 3/4 of the market population with a 65 dbu signal, and in areas to towards Manhattan is pretty well blocked by the large buildings and apartments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    Another format I could see working on 103.9 is a variety hits format such as Jack. It did quite well in New York on 101.1 FM, even if the current classic hits programming is performing even better.
    "Did quite well?" So well that they flipped back to their old format.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AMRocks View Post
    "Did quite well?" So well that they flipped back to their old format.
    Yes, it did quite well. In 25-54, much better than the oldies format they had prior to becoming Jack.

    What actually happened is that the PPM testing in Philadelphia (beginning in 2002) revealed that the potential for classic hits (a totally different format) was huge in the PPM, so in preparation for its later currency launch in New York CBS applied what they had learned about the new ratings system and classic hits at WOGL and flipped WCBS-FM to the better of the two options.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theater of My Mind View Post
    There aren't many AMs in the country with the kind of coverage WABC has. Doubly so when it comes to ones potentially for sale.
    The ITU now says that 15 mV/m is the minimum needed AM signal to cover an urbanized area. Under that standard, the coverage of WABC is not that significantly greater than that of an ESB FM signal.

    Night skywave is irrelevant. Very little radio listening happens then, and nearly no buying takes place. And nearly no listening to out of market AM stations at night can be seen anywhere in the USA.
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