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    Quote Originally Posted by DOB View Post
    IDK, nationally, the format is kinda all over the place really. Some are very upbeat, some play more slower songs, some live in the 80s, some play hardly any 80s at all. I have always felt that Philly 101.1 and NYC 106.7 seemed to evolve in a very similar fashion. As of recently I think that WBEB was more aggressive than WLTW, lots less 80s songs. From what I've heard of WOGL and WBEB briefly and looking at music logs of today, I think they got this thing better aligned now and are creating better spaces for both to peacefully and profitably exist. That's less than a day of research at first glance, I could have it completely wrong.
    The most interesting fact is that WLTW plays older songs, some of them dates back to the '70s that includes artists like Stevie Wonder, Chicago, Rod Stewart, Billy Joel, and disco artists like The Manhattans, Earth, Wind and Fire, Gloria Gaynor, Bee Gees, and others I could think of, which none of them played on WBEB. Over the summer, when I went down to Philly to visit the Liberty Bell monument at Independence Hall, I happened to tune to 106.7 while being stuck on the Schuylkill, and I heard Stevie Wonder's 1976 hit single "Isn't She Lovely! played on that station. WLTW came in almost like a local at the time thanks to tropo enhancement(I don't know if anyone can get it now that adjacent K-Love 106.9 has HD). WBEB, on the other hand, focuses on CHR artists while playing older stuff from the 80's and 90's and ZERO 70's. Both stations are #1 in respective markets.

    Checking WBEB's playlist, it seems that it added more older 80's songs, probably to distance themselves from its sister 96.5. But they also overlap with WOGL, which claimed to be an '80s station even though they started to add more '70s music than the last time I was in Philly over a month ago.

    Things would get interesting regardless what would happen when the rumored Breeze launches on 106.1 in the not so distant future...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CurtisNEPA View Post
    The most interesting fact is that WLTW plays older songs, some of them dates back to the '70s that includes artists like Stevie Wonder, Chicago, Rod Stewart, Billy Joel, and disco artists like The Manhattans, Earth, Wind and Fire, Gloria Gaynor, Bee Gees, and others I could think of, which none of them played on WBEB. Over the summer, when I went down to Philly to visit the Liberty Bell monument at Independence Hall, I happened to tune to 106.7 while being stuck on the Schuylkill, and I heard Stevie Wonder's 1976 hit single "Isn't She Lovely! played on that station. WLTW came in almost like a local at the time thanks to tropo enhancement(I don't know if anyone can get it now that adjacent K-Love 106.9 has HD). WBEB, on the other hand, focuses on CHR artists while playing older stuff from the 80's and 90's and ZERO 70's. Both stations are #1 in respective markets.

    Checking WBEB's playlist, it seems that it added more older 80's songs, probably to distance themselves from its sister 96.5. But they also overlap with WOGL, which claimed to be an '80s station even though they started to add more '70s music than the last time I was in Philly over a month ago.

    Things would get interesting regardless what would happen when the rumored Breeze launches on 106.1 in the not so distant future...
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    Quote Originally Posted by CurtisNEPA View Post
    The most interesting fact is that WLTW plays older songs, some of them dates back to the '70s that includes artists like Stevie Wonder, Chicago, Rod Stewart, Billy Joel, and disco artists like The Manhattans, Earth, Wind and Fire, Gloria Gaynor, Bee Gees, and others I could think of, which none of them played on WBEB.
    Out of 450 songs played in the last 7 days, only 7 were pre-1978. And, out of about 2,300 total spins, the pre-'78 songs accounted for 22 total spins... compared to the top 10 most played songs, which accounted for 260 total spins and an average of 25 spins per song each week. Most of those pre-1978 song spins were in 7 PM to 6 AM, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidEduardo View Post


    Out of 450 songs played in the last 7 days, only 7 were pre-1978. And, out of about 2,300 total spins, the pre-'78 songs accounted for 22 total spins... compared to the top 10 most played songs, which accounted for 260 total spins and an average of 25 spins per song each week. Most of those pre-1978 song spins were in 7 PM to 6 AM, too.
    I just checked today's playlist all the way back to 6 a.m. and found only two pre-1978s before 7 p.m.: "Hotel California" and "She's Got a Way." One is a transgenerational iconic song, the other is by an artist with a huge, passionate following all over the Tri-State area. One could argue that both songs are no-brainer decisions to retain despite their age, and playing them amid all the '80s through today hits that make up the rest of the playlist isn't going to be a magnet for advertiser-despised codgers.

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    Only you folks can appreciate this story. I have two iPods, one with Christmas, which I switch to every year on my birthday (so this morning) and another with about 1200 songs that shuffle randomly throughout the year. (And of course, being a radio geek, I go through the arduous task of refreshing both annually.) Last night, as I was about to turn off the non-Christmas iPod for the last time this year, of all 1200 songs that could have shuffled up, it played "So Hard To Say Goodbye To Yesterday" by Boyz II Men.
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  6. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by CTListener View Post
    I just checked today's playlist all the way back to 6 a.m. and found only two pre-1978s before 7 p.m.: "Hotel California" and "She's Got a Way." One is a transgenerational iconic song, the other is by an artist with a huge, passionate following all over the Tri-State area. One could argue that both songs are no-brainer decisions to retain despite their age, and playing them amid all the '80s through today hits that make up the rest of the playlist isn't going to be a magnet for advertiser-despised codgers.
    So far today (as of 10 AM) WLTW also played Stevie Wonder - "Isn't She Lovely", John Lennon - "Imagine", and Billy Joel - "Piano Man":

    http://www.mediabase.com/whatsong/wh...84087045070077

    Surprisingly there is no Elton John in their playlist, despite him being a long-time cornerstone of the AC format.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kevtronics View Post
    So far today (as of 10 AM) WLTW also played Stevie Wonder - "Isn't She Lovely", John Lennon - "Imagine", and Billy Joel - "Piano Man":

    http://www.mediabase.com/whatsong/wh...84087045070077

    Surprisingly there is no Elton John in their playlist, despite him being a long-time cornerstone of the AC format.
    I know...they rarely play artists like him...and they keep sounding more like a Hot AC. I always go to CBS-FM these days. Oh, and Lite FM may flip to Christmas at 5PM, according to their 'hints' on their Facebook and Instagram pages.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kevtronics View Post
    So far today (as of 10 AM) WLTW also played Stevie Wonder - "Isn't She Lovely", John Lennon - "Imagine", and Billy Joel - "Piano Man":
    Wonder came up yesterday, too, with his 1984 hit "I Just Called to Say I Love You." I'd imagine "Isn't She Lovely" is the earliest song by him WLTW will play. His sound changed pretty dramatically in the '70s as he broke free of the Motown assembly-line production formula and began producing material featuring lush, complex background instrumentation, heavy on synthesized keyboards. Compare "I Just Called to Say I Love You" with "Ma Cherie Amour," for example -- both great love songs, both unmistakably Stevie, but worlds apart in production.

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    I don't even know why they change the name in the first place.....the B101 brand was a landmark in Philly. No matter how old the station gets the name will always be relevant to any generation and any format. It would be great hearing the station go back to the B101 brand......It will bring back memories of my days living and doing radio in Philly.

  10. #40
    I don't think Jerry Lee and company were necessarily wrong (and lord knows he did nothing without data) in the initial move, if the brand was being seen as attached to something it wasn't anymore. If that was the perception, based on copious amounts of data, I get the move. And in the end, it gave them some breathing room to bring it back, as they have. It might have shaken off some of the rust, and they build some goodwill with nostalgia (if nostalgia is even possible after just five years).

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