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    I have learned an extensive amount of information as well. I know that I tend to challenge some points presented, but overall the information presented over time has taught me a great deal, especially with points I can agree with. Channel Flipper's summary says it well. And thanks again.
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    No problem. Having said all that, as you know, there ARE radio stations in LA that target your taste in music.

    You know where they are, so just be happy with what you've got. No need to change the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldies76 View Post
    From google...

    "Bell curve system of performance appraisal is a forced ranking system imposed on the employees by the management. Through this system the organization tries to segregate the best, mediocre and worst performers and nurture the best and discard the worst."
    The bell curve, used in applied statistics, is demonstrated when you look at naturally occurring things like IQ. That's where we find things like "68% of the population falls between 85 and 115 IQ, with those from 70 to 85 and 115 to 130 being each, 14%" and so on... a declining and matching curve on either side that flattens out like the rim of a bell.

    In a music test, we see similar phenomena where 80% and better of the scores are within a narrow range, with highly divergent scores from the normal range, if repeated by the same person over many, many songs indicating an outlier... one whose tastes differ radically from the norm nearly every time. This person is of no use in determining mass appeal and is thus an outlier and eliminated.

    So essentially you discard the radio outliers.
    Yes, just as we don't let dragsters into the Monte Carlo Grand Prix. They are out of place and don't "fit". In fact, "fit" is often discovered when we analyze the range of divergent scores on each song. It tells us if maybe we have a good song, but it belongs on a different radio station, not ours.

    I agree with David's reason that the ones out to get the 200 bucks should be nullified, but the outliers who sincerely choose their favorites, even if they give high approvals to all of them, should not be. But there is probably not a system in place to determine which outliers are truthful and the ones out to get the bucks.
    After doing a thousand or so music tests and spending nearly $20 million of one company's money on research, I can say that there are both statistical and observational ways of telling outliers. Since they will actually do more harm to the station than the money moochers, we are very conscious of the need to keep their results out of the tests.

    The good thing is that we only find one perhaps in every 200 to 300 participants, and if they were to get through, their effect on the total sample is around 1% when one is present... well within the total project margin of error.

    The purpose of spending so much money on testing is not to accurately measure taste. It is to accurately measure the tastes of our listeners and/or potential listeners who will also participate in radio audience surveys and who will spend the most time listening. For example, we also don't test people who might listen 1 hour a week...

    We're mining for gold. If, in the process, we find trace amounts of tin, we ignore it. It's not what we are after, and it's not economically viable to mine trace amounts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBigA View Post
    No problem. Having said all that, as you know, there ARE radio stations in LA that target your taste in music.

    You know where they are, so just be happy with what you've got. No need to change the world.
    Mr '76 is somewhere in the Pueblo / Colorado Springs area.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wimmmex View Post
    "People".....all people? Except you?
    Are you always this literal???

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperRadioFan View Post
    Are you always this literal???
    Just clarifying! ....especially when someone makes a vast generalization and is critical of "people" and don't include themselves. ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBigA View Post
    No problem. Having said all that, as you know, there ARE radio stations in LA that target your taste in music.

    You know where they are, so just be happy with what you've got. No need to change the world.
    You are correct, Sir!!! It's been a long time coming for me, but I find myself almost exclusively listening to ONE radio station for music (88.5 FM KCSN/KSBR). I do listen occasionally to an out of town oldies station (WDJO Cincinnati). Beyond that I have little interest in any other format or commercial radio station that plays music. At the office I use an old cell phone that I retired 3 years ago BUT still serviceable to play the Tune In Radio app and it is connected to an old Logitech boombox. On the app itself is a laundry list of maybe 50 stations I have sampled or listened to over the years, a lot of the stations on this list are out of town OTA commercial stations playing the same format as 88.5 FM. BUT for over a year now, I find almost all my music interest needs are met by this ONE radio station and find myself rarely sampling the others very much anymore. AND of course I want them to continue so I donate twice a year $100 to help keep them going. Since I spend my money this way, I don't buy CDs because my new car, as many do now, has eliminated a CD player. BTW one of the COLs is Mission Viejo where I live so it feels like it's a home town station I am supporting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wimmmex View Post
    Just clarifying! ....especially when someone makes a vast generalization and is critical of "people" and don't include themselves. ;-)
    It's just the last two years I've been more cynical than I've ever been, haha thank goodness I have my music!!

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    Does anyone know when KTLA will commence the wildly popular Yule Log Broadcast?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TeaPartyDude View Post
    Does anyone know when KTLA will commence the wildly popular Yule Log Broadcast?
    I'm sure you'll let us know!

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