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    I would bet hundreds of stations made this "error" at some point on Monday night. It is common for talk stations to air programs taped earlier that day in the evening and overnight hours. e.g. stations that run a local PM drive show, and then air Sean Hannity on a 2-3 hour delay, or who run the prior afternoon's Michael Savage from 2-5am.
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    If one were to assess any blame, it would be the program itself. They realize the program is tape delayed, airing at different times. Either content should not be so time sensitive or the distributor should note the content with the station and allow stations to take an 'evergreen' instead. Then again, this is paid programming. If they are paying for it, it really doesn't matter, you run the client's program.

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    B-Turner. you are correct. It's their dime. If they don't provide a generic show, then whatever they deliver is aired. PTBoardOp94, its not an error. It is now common practice. I hear it all the time and I think it sounds dated. However, its far more cost effective to air the previous days program, than pay somebody to do it. We have one show that is only delayed by three hours. ARK MIDNIGHT with Jon B. Wells airs Sunday morning after the midnight news. It's different, but it is closer up to date than the rest. It's unfortunate, but that is the way it is done in today's radio.
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  4. #14
    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckTiller View Post
    It's unfortunate, but that is the way it is done in today's radio.
    Not everyone in radio operates that way. My suggestion (and it's just a suggestion) is that Salem should have provided its stations live coverage of a breaking news event. That way ALL Salem stations could have aired current information, and not sounded dated. That would not have solved the fact that you'd be pre-empting paid programming. That of course is an internal matter. But as a corporate matter, most companies that offer a national programming service, such as CBS News or Fox News, offer their stations that kind of live programming, especially when it's something as important as Supreme Court nomination that has been talked about and promoted for a full week on those radio stations and by the President of the United States. If there's a commitment to the news, and given the amount of discussion it received prior to the announcement, it should be covered on the station even if there's a loss of revenue. That's the price of doing business. Just my opinion. I understand & respect Mr. Tiller's position.

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    This is News: KNTH Ops Mgr Chuck Tiller said earlier about his local competitor, "KTRH is not a 'News' station. It is a 'News talk' station." -- (so?) -- his comment has to mean that KNTH, is NOT a news-based station or even 'News-talk'. In reality then, based on repeated examples of KNTH missing out on up-to-the-minute actual events --- and worse, willing to broadcast programs that are hours behind reality --- KNTH is the leader in "Yesterday's News" and he's willing to justify it. Frankly, that is a pitiful admission that, in the 4th largest market in America, KNTH and Salem Media, cannot-or-refuse-to, figure out how to stay up-to-date with actual real-life-ongoing "News" events. That's News! (Chuck, at least you know I'm listening and I do enjoy the KNTH lineup of "conservatainment" talk hosts, especially Sam Malone, Michael Medved, and Larry Elder.)

  6. #16
    I knew I used to many words to explain it. You must have missed the part where I wrote "KNTH does not claim to be a news station. We have news on our station, which comes from the Salem Radio Network. Hence: SRN News. It's easy for some to sit back and armchair quarterback stations without knowing the inside information." You can extract whatever meaning out of it you want. I will overlook your insults, because I figure that's your way.
    Operations Manager, Salem Radio Houston: AM1070, THE ANSWER KNTH, Business 1110 KTEK and; 100.7 The Word KKHT, Houston. chucktiller@yahoo.com

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    Here's a situation: you are the guy running the station. Your station has a mix of local talent doing shows and advertisers that purchase time for their programs to air. When it comes time to air the paid for broadcast, the very time slot the advertiser purchased, do you listen to it first (as in hire a couple of people to listen to the content of every program beforehand?) Do you play the show the advertiser provided because they paid for it to play on that day at that time? And even if you were to manage to screen every paid program each day, do you cancel it because it speaks about something that already happened? If you choose the second option, you lose money and might tick off the advertiser.

    Reality: You can't afford the payroll to listen to each and every show prior. There is no need. These national broadcasters that purchase time make sure their programs don't violate FCC rules or other laws including offending massive numbers of listeners. Their shows air daily around the country, problem-free. There is no need to listen and you, as the station have no right to alter the paid program. They paid for it to air as is in the time slot purchased. .

    If you did pull the program, the ad agency or client might get mad and cancel, moving to another station, leaving your station with less billing. It's already tough enough to find the dollars to keep a station afloat. If you pull the program, it's akin to owning a strip center and leasing to a beauty salon that pays you rent, then refusing to let them open their doors on a certain day of your choosing. In other words if they choose to air dated material in their time slot, it's on them, especially since you don't know the content of the show beforehand.

    Many, many stations delay programs. Not that many are actually aired at the very time they are done live. Some flag shows concerning content to give the station an option. Some don't. In essence, you're blaming the cook for the egg the chicken laid. If there is any 'beef' it is with Jay Sekulow, not KNTH. KNTH just played a paid program provided by the client at the time slot the client purchased without knowing the content of the program beforehand. And, in reality, it's all about getting listeners to hear those programs, so regardless, it appears even the complainer listened even if for a different reason than you'd like.

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    did you ever see their antenna site, looks like HAARP lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunsmoke View Post
    did you ever see their antenna site, looks like HAARP lol.
    Good one. 11 antennas. Any stations have more than that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stan View Post
    Good one. 11 antennas. Any stations have more than that?
    Yes. Many are being "downsized" to simpler patterns, often with lower power.

    Technically, the whole "set" of towers is an "antenna" and each individual part is a tower. Think of it like roof-top TV antennas (yeah, some folks still have one) that have multiple elements made up and shorter metal bars... but the bars, all together, are an antenna.

    FM has a comparable set of terms. An FM transmission antenna is made up of "bays" and the set of bays is the antenna.
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