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    Royal Prank Call Nurse Commits Suicide


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    I am pissed off! That radio duo has her death on their conscience! I hope they're never allowed on the air again! They should be fired for what they did!

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    I initially thought it was a great bit, as they managed to get so far, and get away with it. However, no one saw this coming, as you can't predict human behaviour. The station concerned has a track record for edgy stunts, and I somehow think they will escape the regulators (weak) slap, even if the jocks do get sacked, which is on the cards. They've been suspended indefinitely, but I think once Monday rolls around, they will be terminated.
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    2DAY-FM has suspended it's advertising until December 10th. Facebook page is down. I'm trying to stream, yet there's no audio.

    Honestly, I would not be surprised if the ACMA finally ordered the plug pulled. They already made breaches of decency, and this could be the last straw.

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    This side of the pond they would have been charged with criminal impersonation.
    No irony there.

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    Silkie, I assume you're east of the Atlantic, then. I don't think they'd be criminally liable anywhere in the Western Hemipshere.

    And why should they?

    What law did they break? What did they do wrong, other than the most awfulest of impressions of royalty since, well, ever?

    It was a radio stunt, a prank. In the US, there have been thousands, if not tens of thousands of radio shams and prank calls over the years (until the rules changed) and no one's gone and off'd themselves. What happened was sad, maybe even a tragedy, but this nurse lady obviously had some larger issues at play if she let a couple of half-arsed Aussie DJs drive her to suicide. If not them, it would have later been a bent syringe or a flat tyre on her car that sent her over the edge. Trust me, it's the little things that eventually do us in.


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    I agree with Zach. The laws regarding criminal culpability in the pursuit of humor/satire are pretty loose and I doubt anyone, in their wildest imagination, could have foreseen the death of a nurse in this instance. We haven't yet heard her side of the story or what may have been happening in her life to drive her to this tragic consequence but I think it clear that no rational person would behave in this manner.

    This attempt to discover the condition of the Duchess wasn't intentionally criminal nor even mildly egregious. As I remember the conversation it was polite and reasonable. I cannot fathom why the nurse would take her own life even after being fooled by these two DJ's.

    I'm not aware of the international laws in this type of case but would think that perhaps it was required of the DJ's to make the recipient of the call aware it was being recorded - which I don't think they did. That would be the only legal issue AFAIK.

    That said, there are certainly cases where this type of stunt has gone too far and caused great harm. I have always thought the "morning zoo" type of humor is very ill-advised and generally not too funny. I don't know about condemning it entirely or restricting it legally but it seems generally in poor taste. Radio humor can be funny without being obnoxious.
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    Forgive me, I feel a rant coming on…

    It would be wise to remember who brought us this story in the first place: the British tabloid press. The same people whose paparazzi who were waiting to ambush Kate as she left hospital; the same pap who mercilessly flashbulb anyone even remotely royal in Great Britain everywhere they go; the same pap who used a telephoto lens to capture Kate's nude sunbathing in the south of France; the same pap who literally drove Diana Princess of Wales to her death by chasing her through Paris.

    These people are eager and willing to endanger the safety and privacy of anyone and everyone they target. Now they've hyped a non-story of "local DJ prank calls nurse" to such heights the nurse killed herself. If anyone needs to be brought under control, it's the press in Great Britain and not morning zoo crews from down under. Or in the US for that matter. They fanned the flames of an otherwise unremarkable story into something larger than it needs to be. If this were an Aussie morning show prank calling the mother of the president of Singapore no one in the US would ever hear about it. Heck, if they prank called someone trying to get to our own First Lady I doubt there would be such furore.

    In Zach's world, the only newsworthy item from all this would be the horrifically bad impersonations the 2DAY show members used. It would not have been endless fodder for tabloids in the UK. The nurse would have been embarrassed but not driven to suicide. The world would not, in essence, give a damn. As it should be.

    I'm going slightly OT here but it needs to be said. Radio has become so incessantly bland and inoffensive that radio people and radio fans have forgotten what it's like to be edgy and funny at the same time. It happened decades ago in the UK (seriously, their breakfast shows are so inoffensively awful they've become offensive again.) It's probably going to happen in Australia soon because of this, and it's already by and large happened in the US because it's easier to make money on bland than cutting edge.

    Not that there's anything wrong with that; I'm all about capitalism. It's just that I think radio has gone too far in the US towards placating the complainers and not enough towards entertaining the broader audience.

    Edgy radio's audience didn't abandon the medium as corporate radio claims; radio abandoned edgy talent and their listeners with mind-numbingly strict rules and regulations far beyond what the FCC requires. As corporate safe radio clamped down on the fringes, their ratings fell (to some degree, I suppose Howard Stern had high ratings till the end). That justified terminating some great, if not mainstream talent. Remember, it wasn't that long ago that radio embraced the likes of Stern, or The Greaseman, or Don & Mike, or even Opie & Anthony. Now they've all been shuffled off, either to early retirement, or internet streaming or satellite radio. Places where the rules aren't so important.

    So what does free radio have left? Bland, boring and unfortunately often uninformative morning crap. To borrow an offensive but completely accurate assessment of morning radio from the aforementioned Opie and Anthony show, the typical morning crew is “Two Men & A Hole”: The main host is often still a man and he gets top billing because radio is still a man's world, even though this man contributes nothing to the show. The other man is billed last but gets the responsibility of being the one to push the boundaries of content. If he goes over the line, he is the least paid and lowest on the pole so his termination is easy. There's a new third wheel in place by next week that blends seamlessly into the fold. It's all held together by the woman, who acts as den mother with nothing more useful than an occasional, "Oh, you guys!" or "Oh, you don't mean that." Something to keep the idiot men in line. She contributes nothing else of value and has nothing important or informative to say. She is a drag on humanity, a literal black hole of comedy, but gets second billing because radio wants to appeal to women, too, and doesn't know how else to do it.

    If you think about it, this formula to some degree applies to a LOT of mornings shows in every single market, doesn't it? Sure, there are exceptions like the south's Rick & Bubba, who have no woman to temper them yet they do well in female demographics, because they're just being themselves and they're good folks at heart. But by and large radio is too afraid of making 1% less profit to try anything other than the absolute safest, most boring crap.

    Again, sorry for the topic drift, but this whole situation has just made me mad at radio all over again, just for different reasons than practically everyone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zach
    Forgive me, I feel a rant coming on…

    It would be wise to remember who brought us this story in the first place: the British tabloid press. The same people whose paparazzi who were waiting to ambush Kate as she left hospital; the same pap who mercilessly flashbulb anyone even remotely royal in Great Britain everywhere they go; the same pap who used a telephoto lens to capture Kate's nude sunbathing in the south of France; the same pap who literally drove Diana Princess of Wales to her death by chasing her through Paris.

    These people are eager and willing to endanger the safety and privacy of anyone and everyone they target. Now they've hyped a non-story of "local DJ prank calls nurse" to such heights the nurse killed herself. If anyone needs to be brought under control, it's the press in Great Britain and not morning zoo crews from down under. Or in the US for that matter. They fanned the flames of an otherwise unremarkable story into something larger than it needs to be. If this were an Aussie morning show prank calling the mother of the president of Singapore no one in the US would ever hear about it. Heck, if they prank called someone trying to get to our own First Lady I doubt there would be such furore.

    In Zach's world, the only newsworthy item from all this would be the horrifically bad impersonations the 2DAY show members used. It would not have been endless fodder for tabloids in the UK. The nurse would have been embarrassed but not driven to suicide. The world would not, in essence, give a damn. As it should be.

    I'm going slightly OT here but it needs to be said. Radio has become so incessantly bland and inoffensive that radio people and radio fans have forgotten what it's like to be edgy and funny at the same time. It happened decades ago in the UK (seriously, their breakfast shows are so inoffensively awful they've become offensive again.) It's probably going to happen in Australia soon because of this, and it's already by and large happened in the US because it's easier to make money on bland than cutting edge.

    Not that there's anything wrong with that; I'm all about capitalism. It's just that I think radio has gone too far in the US towards placating the complainers and not enough towards entertaining the broader audience.

    Edgy radio's audience didn't abandon the medium as corporate radio claims; radio abandoned edgy talent and their listeners with mind-numbingly strict rules and regulations far beyond what the FCC requires. As corporate safe radio clamped down on the fringes, their ratings fell (to some degree, I suppose Howard Stern had high ratings till the end). That justified terminating some great, if not mainstream talent. Remember, it wasn't that long ago that radio embraced the likes of Stern, or The Greaseman, or Don & Mike, or even Opie & Anthony. Now they've all been shuffled off, either to early retirement, or internet streaming or satellite radio. Places where the rules aren't so important.

    So what does free radio have left? Bland, boring and unfortunately often uninformative morning crap. To borrow an offensive but completely accurate assessment of morning radio from the aforementioned Opie and Anthony show, the typical morning crew is “Two Men & A Hole”: The main host is often still a man and he gets top billing because radio is still a man's world, even though this man contributes nothing to the show. The other man is billed last but gets the responsibility of being the one to push the boundaries of content. If he goes over the line, he is the least paid and lowest on the pole so his termination is easy. There's a new third wheel in place by next week that blends seamlessly into the fold. It's all held together by the woman, who acts as den mother with nothing more useful than an occasional, "Oh, you guys!" or "Oh, you don't mean that." Something to keep the idiot men in line. She contributes nothing else of value and has nothing important or informative to say. She is a drag on humanity, a literal black hole of comedy, but gets second billing because radio wants to appeal to women, too, and doesn't know how else to do it.

    If you think about it, this formula to some degree applies to a LOT of mornings shows in every single market, doesn't it? Sure, there are exceptions like the south's Rick & Bubba, who have no woman to temper them yet they do well in female demographics, because they're just being themselves and they're good folks at heart. But by and large radio is too afraid of making 1% less profit to try anything other than the absolute safest, most boring crap.

    Again, sorry for the topic drift, but this whole situation has just made me mad at radio all over again, just for different reasons than practically everyone else.
    Well written post. I don't think it's immature of me that I love edgy radio but feel like it's rapidly disappearing everywhere. The public's reaction to this is why everyone plays it safe now. Seriously, how many bambam and Streetboy style radio shows (Kiss100, London) do you find on the radio now? Edgy radio is, for the most part, widely frowned upon because people now have come to expect safe, bland and formulaic content from the radio. People are so finicky and sensitive in some respects when it comes to the media that I'm not surprised pranks and scams and general fun radio riffraff has disappeared, or when stations like 2day still do it, they get hated on by the public. For example, radio in the Philippines can be far, far more edgy than any CHR morning show you'll find in America now (some of the discussion on Magic 89.9's "Good Times with Mo" is downright horrifying and uncomfortable compared to something you'll here on radio in the US), but Asians are often thought of as shy and conservative compared to people in Europe and America. People read Fifty Shades of Gray but complain when their ears hear something edgy on the radio. British citizens speak out against wild Australian radio stations but forget about their own historically edgy and offensive media culture. There's certainly a significant disconnect here.

    The other problem I have with this whole incident involves how the media has portrayed it. A lot of people I've heard talking about this have been brought to believe that the "poor sweet-sounding nurse" who divulged the information was the one who committed suicide on the call. In reality, the operator -- the nurse who simply transferred the call to the room -- was the woman who committed suicide. Sad for everyone involved.

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    I also don't get the connection why the operator who made the phone connection decided to dis-connect her life.
    Was she fired from her job for connecting the call? If so then whoever fired her should be to blame? As far as I know we do not know from doctors the cause of death. Died from embarrasment? The operator should have called the DJs and pretended to fire them from their jobs. The DJs got a million dollars worth of publicity so they will probably end up with huge paying contracts to be judges on US reality shows or something like that.

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