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New FM, KNAN on-air
- Thread starter buzzdemming
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only1moore
Star Participant
KNAN is serving the Honolulu area.
http://www.starbulletin.com/busines...lulu_strikes_another_victory.html?mobile=true
http://www.starbulletin.com/busines...lulu_strikes_another_victory.html?mobile=true
way out west
New Participating Member
KNAN filed for an STA with the FCC on 7/28/09 stating it will remain silent until a new tower site is found.
They went on the air at a tower site that will not support the antenna. That was done to save the license.
Now they will search for a new site and basically have a year to find one. If they don't, they left the option
open to flip it back on at the present site which will buy them yet another year. Don't expect KNAN on the
air anytime soon.
They went on the air at a tower site that will not support the antenna. That was done to save the license.
Now they will search for a new site and basically have a year to find one. If they don't, they left the option
open to flip it back on at the present site which will buy them yet another year. Don't expect KNAN on the
air anytime soon.
way out west
New Participating Member
These guys paid $1,684,000 for the CP expecting to make money on it. The market for stations has dropped
out and now they are stuck with it. One of the partners, and most likely the money guy is Will Kemp. He
owns:
KVEG, MESQUITE, NEVADA.
KMZQ, LAS VEGAS, NEVADA.
KMZQ-FM, PAYSON, ARIZONA.
KVGG, SALOME, ARIZONA.
KVGQ, SNOWFLAKE, ARIZONA.
KONV, OVERTON, NEVADA.
Most of those are new sign ons so it looks like they got in it to make a buck and are now stuck trying
to run radio stations with no money.
out and now they are stuck with it. One of the partners, and most likely the money guy is Will Kemp. He
owns:
KVEG, MESQUITE, NEVADA.
KMZQ, LAS VEGAS, NEVADA.
KMZQ-FM, PAYSON, ARIZONA.
KVGG, SALOME, ARIZONA.
KVGQ, SNOWFLAKE, ARIZONA.
KONV, OVERTON, NEVADA.
Most of those are new sign ons so it looks like they got in it to make a buck and are now stuck trying
to run radio stations with no money.
way out west
New Participating Member
They would have had to pay rent there. The new (current) site sounds like they mounted the
antenna on a rusty old pole just to get it on the air as cheap as possible. I'll be surprised if
this thing gets on the air full time under these owners.
They have screwed this thing up from the start. Now they put it on the air with Nanakuli
as the City of License so they can't move it. They should have filed to change the COL to
something a little closer to Pearl City. At least then they could get some decent coverage
into Honolulu. With Nanakuli as the COL they will never get coverage into Honolulu.
They also could have extended the CP by selling it to another party that owned no other
stations. A recent FCC rule allows an 18 month extention in such cases.
antenna on a rusty old pole just to get it on the air as cheap as possible. I'll be surprised if
this thing gets on the air full time under these owners.
They have screwed this thing up from the start. Now they put it on the air with Nanakuli
as the City of License so they can't move it. They should have filed to change the COL to
something a little closer to Pearl City. At least then they could get some decent coverage
into Honolulu. With Nanakuli as the COL they will never get coverage into Honolulu.
They also could have extended the CP by selling it to another party that owned no other
stations. A recent FCC rule allows an 18 month extention in such cases.
They now have a real problem- A Petition for Rule Making was filed on the 27th to allocate 107.1 to Kahuku, (up on the North Shore). As required, an application for CP has also been filed. Since this is a First Commercial Service to Kahuku, it will likely be granted and auctioned off in due course. Had they not moved their CP off Palehua in the first place, this proposed allocation probably would not have been possible.
At first glance, it appears that this proposed allocation will prevent them from moving KNAN back up to Palehua, or doing much of anything else with it except increasing HAAT where they are currently licensed. (Likely a non-starter for a lot of reasons.) There is a very small geographical area within which they will be able to locate their transmitter site due to spacing requirements to the north and east.
At first glance, it appears that this proposed allocation will prevent them from moving KNAN back up to Palehua, or doing much of anything else with it except increasing HAAT where they are currently licensed. (Likely a non-starter for a lot of reasons.) There is a very small geographical area within which they will be able to locate their transmitter site due to spacing requirements to the north and east.
way out west
New Participating Member
Most likely the Kahuku filing was done as an intentional block to any KNAN upgrade. Kona Coast Radio is
owned by Vic Michael. Over the years Vic has made a lot of money by filing this type of application. It will
force KNAN to either live with the signal they have now or buy off Vic Michael. These guys are definately
screwed now.
owned by Vic Michael. Over the years Vic has made a lot of money by filing this type of application. It will
force KNAN to either live with the signal they have now or buy off Vic Michael. These guys are definately
screwed now.
Since this is an Petition to Amend the Table of Allocations to add a first local service, de-railing it would be difficult. The FCC loves first local services. Also, even if Vic was willing to withdraw, someone else would almost certainly step up and file the same thing again.
Quick and dirty calculations show that there's pretty much nothing KNAN can do except raise the HAAT at their licensed site. That's going to be a tough putt because of Barbers Point airport. Even if they were able to get the FAA to go along, growing a tower of any substantial size in Hawaii is a very daunting proposition. The newly proposed allocation prevents them from going back to their original Palehua site or moving north at all. KRTR keeps them from moving any significant distance towards Honolulu. They can go south or west, at least until they hit water, but why?
They'd have been a lot better off paying the site buy-in and James Campbell Companies the rent...
Quick and dirty calculations show that there's pretty much nothing KNAN can do except raise the HAAT at their licensed site. That's going to be a tough putt because of Barbers Point airport. Even if they were able to get the FAA to go along, growing a tower of any substantial size in Hawaii is a very daunting proposition. The newly proposed allocation prevents them from going back to their original Palehua site or moving north at all. KRTR keeps them from moving any significant distance towards Honolulu. They can go south or west, at least until they hit water, but why?
They'd have been a lot better off paying the site buy-in and James Campbell Companies the rent...
way out west
New Participating Member
Since this is an Petition to Amend the Table of Allocations to add a first local service, de-railing it would be difficult. The FCC loves first local services. Also, even if Vic was willing to withdraw, someone else would almost certainly step up and file the same thing again.
If they pay Vic off and file immeadiately for their upgrade no one else could step in and file the same thing again. Of course these guys don't appear to be too smart. They should have filed for an upgrade CP the minute they went on the air and they would have prevented Vic from jumping in.
If they pay Vic off and file immeadiately for their upgrade no one else could step in and file the same thing again. Of course these guys don't appear to be too smart. They should have filed for an upgrade CP the minute they went on the air and they would have prevented Vic from jumping in.
way out west
New Participating Member
Yes, an application has been made, http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/fmq?list=0&facid=181098 , by Kona Coast Radio, LLC (Vic Michael) FCC File # BNPH-20090723AED, FCC Facility # 181098, for a new FM station to operate on Channel 296 (107.1) as a Class C3 station (25,000 watts max) to be licensed to the City of Kahuku, HI. From their transmitter site they will operate at 4KW at a height of 250 meters. They are proposing to locate the transmitter and antenna on FCC Tower # 1026419. This tower is on Mount Kuillima and is owned by Pinnacle Towers. Halau Lokahi Public Charter School has an application with the FCC to build a FM station at this site as well. The Halau Lokahi station will operate on Channel 213C3 (90.5) and be licensed to Hauula, HI.
A notice of proposed Rule Making has not been issued by the FCC regarding this facility at this time. That normally takes a few months after the filing. This one could show up about the end of this year. After the comment period, add a few more months and the FCC could approve this application around April of 2010. After that, it will take 5+ years for the permit to go to auction. Once the FCC awards the frequency to a winning bidder (another 90 days) The winner will apply for a CP (construction permit). After another 90+ days, the FCC will issue a CP which will be good for 3 years. That would put this station on the air somewhere between 2016 and 2019, unless the original CP holder can't build it in time and sells it to a new buyer with no other (or very little other) broadcast interests. In that case the new buyer could get another 18 months bringing it into 2020 for completion.
All of that depends on if the owners of KNAN don't cut a deal with Vic Michael to get him to withdraw his application before the FCC adds the Kahuku allocation to it's table of allocations.
A notice of proposed Rule Making has not been issued by the FCC regarding this facility at this time. That normally takes a few months after the filing. This one could show up about the end of this year. After the comment period, add a few more months and the FCC could approve this application around April of 2010. After that, it will take 5+ years for the permit to go to auction. Once the FCC awards the frequency to a winning bidder (another 90 days) The winner will apply for a CP (construction permit). After another 90+ days, the FCC will issue a CP which will be good for 3 years. That would put this station on the air somewhere between 2016 and 2019, unless the original CP holder can't build it in time and sells it to a new buyer with no other (or very little other) broadcast interests. In that case the new buyer could get another 18 months bringing it into 2020 for completion.
All of that depends on if the owners of KNAN don't cut a deal with Vic Michael to get him to withdraw his application before the FCC adds the Kahuku allocation to it's table of allocations.
way out west
New Participating Member
In looking at the KNAN frequency, it's hard to believe how bad they screwed this up. KNAN could have gone to a Class C1 (100,000 watts) and covered the entire Island of Oahu with a 70dBu signal, (of course there would still pockets like all other stations that are bad). There is an open space up near Makaha that could be used for licensing that would have covered Nanakuli. Under FCC 73.215, the transmitter and antenna could have been located with everyone else up above Makakilo. Now they are stuck out on a very small patch of Barbers Point with a C3.
KNAN was limited to a C2 on Palahua by 106.5C/KUHI at Haiku, Maui. There must have been some reason that 73.215 wasn't going to get them a C1 or they wouldn't have gone to war with KUHI...
In March, 2008, KNAN filed a Petition to Deny KUHI's license with the FCC. Assuming that the FCC had granted the Petition prior to KNAN's self-inflicted downgrade, revoking KUHI's license wouldn't change the Table of Allocations to allow KNAN to upgrade to C1. (Not to mention that this kind of proceeding takes forever to wind it's way through the Commission...). One can only speculate about what they were hoping to accomplish and their methods towards that end. Now, even if the FCC were to take the requested action against KUHI, it's moot as far as benefiting KNAN...
In March, 2008, KNAN filed a Petition to Deny KUHI's license with the FCC. Assuming that the FCC had granted the Petition prior to KNAN's self-inflicted downgrade, revoking KUHI's license wouldn't change the Table of Allocations to allow KNAN to upgrade to C1. (Not to mention that this kind of proceeding takes forever to wind it's way through the Commission...). One can only speculate about what they were hoping to accomplish and their methods towards that end. Now, even if the FCC were to take the requested action against KUHI, it's moot as far as benefiting KNAN...
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