Why is a cumbia not Christian?
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KXNG - Is it working?
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Why is a cumbia not Christian?
Because its rhythms promote sex, which good Christians aren't supposed to have, or at least enjoy?
Not when it's a Cumbia that doesn't worship God nor does it speak about Christianity. Especially one that says SELENA WOULD LOVE THIS. So he's worried more about Selena loving a song than worrying about God getting pleased?
Many Christian-focused stations include secular music that does not have negative values as part of the blend. The idea is that there is a proper environment in which to insert songs with a deeper message and the relative safety of knowing that there will be nothing offensive.
I have not heard that particular song, but I find nothing about Selena's lifestyle that would make her an inappropriate role model for Christians. In fact, her family, particularly her father, are reported to be strong, practicing evangelical Christians and had been, for a period, members of the Jehova's Witnesses church.
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I guess I must have been doing the devil's work when I built the first salsa FM in Puerto Rico.
Those bongos just make me lose control...
oh brother!! You did a naughty lolOf course her going on stage with a blouse that looks like a bra and shaking her booty that was appropriate for Christians.
For a stage performer, it seems rather normal to me. I know of plenty of devout performers who make the Sign of the Cross prior to performing in all manner of dress because "dressing the part" is a function of show business.
Not in a church! It's called respect and if you wouldn't dress like that to perform to God then you shouldn't dress like that at all. If a church can't play that song why should a Christian radio station?
Like I told you last time if that was the case why can't La Nueva play Tigre's del Norte Songs? Un Día a La Vez, Padre Nuestro, SALA DE ESPERA?
Or that CORRIDO DE EL CAMARO with Beto Quintanilla. Since they are songs of inspiration and meditation?
The station isn't playing Selena, is it?
If you tune around the dial, you have lots of stations mixing formats. Country stations are playing a song that features Backstreet Boys right now.
The Gospel Music Association presents awards to secular artists and secular songs.
Radio is not a Church. Because a ministry operates a radio station some believe it is a Church. Most radio ministries have a mission statement to bring people to Christ. As a friend that pastors a Church tells me, you can bring a lot of people to Christ in prisons and bars, neither of which are considered hotbeds of Christian morals and far removed from the Church.
It seems KXNG's approach has ruffled some feathers. I get that. Your 'gut' raises a red flag. All I'm saying is try to look at the total picture. The approach might not be to one's liking but the result might be.
KXNG is having to scramble based on early results of the initial format. They're trying to reach their core audience, doing research and determining how to do this effectively. The new plan might work or might not. Only time will tell. As formats are in constant evolution, should we not wait to see if the efforts to reach the target audience are effective instead of proverbially 'shooting the messenger'?
KXNG is having a tough start. There was criticism of their stunting, poor initial performance and now criticism of their new approach. We know much of the funding will come not from those targeted by the station but rather those that would not find the programming to their musical tastes. Each criticism comes from a small group that might have contributed to the station's financial needs resulting in a smaller group of core supporters. You always want as many as possible behind what you do.
Having worked Christian radio, the worst part is that people wear their beliefs on their sleeves and if you don't do things their way, you hear about it. Inside the station you're always walking on egg shells wondering what will set off a group of people and trying to figure out how to prevent that. I always felt Christian Radio's biggest enemy was not what the Church says it is but the people in the Church itself who don't have the inside scoop of the whys and why nots of the format philosophy.
It seems KXNG's approach has ruffled some feathers. I get that. Your 'gut' raises a red flag. All I'm saying is try to look at the total picture. The approach might not be to one's liking but the result might be.
KXNG is having to scramble based on early results of the initial format. They're trying to reach their core audience, doing research and determining how to do this effectively. The new plan might work or might not. Only time will tell. As formats are in constant evolution, should we not wait to see if the efforts to reach the target audience are effective instead of proverbially 'shooting the messenger'?
KXNG is having a tough start. There was criticism of their stunting, poor initial performance and now criticism of their new approach. We know much of the funding will come not from those targeted by the station but rather those that would not find the programming to their musical tastes. Each criticism comes from a small group that might have contributed to the station's financial needs resulting in a smaller group of core supporters. You always want as many as possible behind what you do.
Having worked Christian radio, the worst part is that people wear their beliefs on their sleeves and if you don't do things their way, you hear about it. Inside the station you're always walking on egg shells wondering what will set off a group of people and trying to figure out how to prevent that. I always felt Christian Radio's biggest enemy was not what the Church says it is but the people in the Church itself who don't have the inside scoop of the whys and why nots of the format philosophy.
Not saying NGEN should play Christian music only just cause it belongs to a Church. Just saying stop acting like Christian Hip hop station if it's catering to both.
In other words just make it a secular station, CENTRO CRISTIANO DE VIDS ETERNA does it with their translators. Their Christian 94.1 plays only Church music, 104.5 plays regional Mexican and 92.5 plays tropical music. They don't play church music and non church music on the same frequency.
KSBJ should do the same with NGEN
In other words just make it a secular station, CENTRO CRISTIANO DE VIDS ETERNA does it with their translators. Their Christian 94.1 plays only Church music, 104.5 plays regional Mexican and 92.5 plays tropical music. They don't play church music and non church music on the same frequency.
KSBJ should do the same with NGEN
Actually KSBJ/KXNG is not Church owned but a ministry independent of any Church. I know Hector and Roberto of Radio Vida. They are savvy businessmen in respect to building a path to the funds to allow their ministry to go beyond what it can accomplish alone. They're open to leasing stations (which they do) to build a revenue path. They have proven to me they are not above working hard with very little and making it produce a great deal for people in need, not just those attending services.
I, for one, am not privy to KXNG's research on how to reach their target audience. It would seem their research differs from your opinion and perhaps mine. If by mixing music they bring some of their audience to God by doing what they are currently doing, is that wrong? I suspect we'd agree it is not although we might not agree with the process they are trying. Lots of dollars have been given to make KXGN happen, so there's lots of accountability on that meaning they have to question the effectiveness of everything they do. With that weighing over their head, I suspect their research shows they might be on the right path to reach they mission goals.
With Christian focused radio (and any other media) there seems to be an all or nothing attitude yet the person saying it should be all or nothing usually isn't living an all or nothing life, meaning simply, they might also listen to secular radio and Christian radio or watch secular TV shows as well as Christian TV, read secular print media and Christian print media. I don't say this as a criticism but rather an observation or consideration I had working at a Christian station.
I, for one, am not privy to KXNG's research on how to reach their target audience. It would seem their research differs from your opinion and perhaps mine. If by mixing music they bring some of their audience to God by doing what they are currently doing, is that wrong? I suspect we'd agree it is not although we might not agree with the process they are trying. Lots of dollars have been given to make KXGN happen, so there's lots of accountability on that meaning they have to question the effectiveness of everything they do. With that weighing over their head, I suspect their research shows they might be on the right path to reach they mission goals.
With Christian focused radio (and any other media) there seems to be an all or nothing attitude yet the person saying it should be all or nothing usually isn't living an all or nothing life, meaning simply, they might also listen to secular radio and Christian radio or watch secular TV shows as well as Christian TV, read secular print media and Christian print media. I don't say this as a criticism but rather an observation or consideration I had working at a Christian station.
Well stated b-t, on both of your previous observations. It's too early in the young life of KXNG to predict the future or criticize the methods employed so far.
There is always a challenge to not just preach to the choir. To bring more people into a religion, one has to go outside the pool of of the practicing devout.
Some years back, I was involved with Cardinal Rickets Landázuri of Perú in building a pastoral station in Lima. After much discussion, we decided to go with appropriate secular popular music and to engage non-practicing Catholics via short 30" to 60" teachings, stories, parables and such. The lay leaders of the church were the hardest to convince, as they were afraid that they would be accused of being too secular. On the other hand, His Eminence was very fond of the idea of reaching out to "lost sheep".
That thinking is no doubt part of what is on the table in this case in Houston. Playing only deeply religious songs is not going to bring anyone new to the church movement they represent.
You are missing the point, which is to make the format more broadly appealing, while still playing enough religiously themed music to convey the intended message but not so much that they lose the potential for a broad reach.
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The overwhelming disrespect for other people's ministries is very troubling. Just because NGEN chooses to play clean secular music that you do not particularly like is no reason to slam their effectiveness in reaching young people and young professionals for Christ. A lot of the music is not my taste, either. I find the Cumbia tune rather catchy, but his obsession for Selena troubling. That doesn't make me slam him, his music, or NGEN for playing it. It is merely one of the songs on NGEN, sometimes I am in the mood for it, sometimes not. Peculiar mix of styles, that is for sure. I think they used to call them "novelty hits".
As far as Selena goes - we know Selena. I will put her walk with the Lord up against yours or anybody else's any time. She is serious about her faith. Does she make mistakes? Yes. Is she sometimes manipulated? Yes. Doesn't stop us from admiring her for taking a stand for her faith in a hostile environment, where there is tremendous pressure to compromise. I am darn proud to know her, and grateful for all the assistance she has tried to give my daughter in Hollywood through the years.
That seems to be the problem, are we talking about the same Selena? I'm referring to Selena Quintanilla, you seem to be speaking about a Selena who is still alive.
As they would say in the ghetto
MY BAD!!
And like I said many times already, I have no problem with NGEN I love their music. Just trying to explain that it is not a religious station. And should not be announced as one in many places.
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