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The Carmel Group White Paper ~~ Merger with Sirius = Bad Move for Listeners

The Carmel Group, the influential research firm whose analysis helped kill the 2003 merger of EchoStar and DirecTV, will release a new report today, April 3, 2007, that outlines the strongest arguments yet against merging satellite radio companies Sirius and XM.

Sponsored by the National Association of Broadcasters, which has already come out against the deal, the 11-page independent white paper includes a point-by-point rebuttal to the six main arguments put forth by Sirius and XM in favor of a merger.

It concludes - in precisely the opposite terms that Sirius CEO Mel Karmazin has espoused - that approval of the deal will result "in less service, less affordability, less diversity and less choice in content and hardware."
 
lets see,just what they were saying prior to any Nab cash being tossed at them.from 2005


Jump forward another 10 or so years and today the U.S. is pitched in a new battle over the same kind of telecom development, where again, the pie grows and numerous competitors thrive, side-by-side. In this case, the new player is satellite radio, with more than seven mil. subscribers, and its competition comes in the form of traditional analog AM & FM radio, as well as burgeoning services like MP3 players, terrestrial radio, and video- and Internet-to-the-vehicle.

In this competitive vein, many believe that the future of satellite radio is lukewarm, at best. They point primarily to the competition sat radio is already beginning to experience inside the passenger cab of any car, truck or RV, or on the mobile, office or home fronts (and even in Starbucks). These critics believe satellite radio’s jump start will be keenly muted, especially with the advent of 1) MP3 players, such as Apple’s iPOD, 2) soon-to-be nearly ubiquitous digital terrestrial radio services, 3) Internet-supplied data content, and 4) video-to-the-kids-in-the-back-of-the-SUV.

An iPOD-like device requires a fair sum of work (and time and money) to find and
download one’s playlist, and then constant monitoring (and more time and more money)
to ensure the right choice of songs finds the screen. In addition, as The Wall
Street Journal’s top tech writer, Walter Mossberg, noted in an October 12, 2005,
column, the new iPOD adapter devices raise significant safety concerns tied to hands
off the wheel and constant and regular viewing of the selection screen that keeps
one’s eyes away from the road ahead (or behind). Mossberg also bemoans the fact that
the new iPOD adapters involve unsightly wires and one or two hardware devices too
many.

The next major competitor to satellite radio is the crystal clear delivery of AM and
FM programming in the form of digital terrestrial radio (AKA HD radio). Lead by Columbia, MD-based iBiquity Digital, this market segment is providing the infrastructure used by AM and FM broadcasters to deliver, digitally, existing and new radio channels. Notes iBiqity’s VP, OEM Business Development, Jeff
McGannon, “In Detroit [Michigan], 23 stations are broadcasting our HD radio service,
and nine of those are broadcasting an additional channel on the same frequency.
Right now, our service reaches about six of ten Americans; in two years, we’ll reach
nine out of ten.” Viewing the same growth idea from a population POV, McGannon
claims that within a couple of years, everywhere there is an AM and FM station,
there will be HD radio.

http://carmelgroup.com/publications/document/growing_another_telecom_pie/
 
i guess it really all depends on which way the wind is blowing

from a ces 2007 session
http://carmelgroup.com/events/overview/ces_2007/


January 08-
Radio’s Digital Future: HD vs. Satellite.

Find out the latest developments in terrestrial HD and satellite radio and how many subscribers/listeners will be tuning in to these industries by 2010. Take a seat and find out, “What will be the future business models driving these industries, Where will subscribers be coming from, Why satellite radio providers will be acquired before 2008, and How terrestrial HD plans to capture the consumer market with its marketing buzz.” Don’t miss this session. It promises to uncover the challenges, opportunities and choices for radio’s digital future.

Moderator: Sean Badding



it looks like both xmsr and sirius was present, there for this panel discussion also wonder what the pretext for satellite providers being purchased was...


Market(s):

Track: Home & Lifestyle Entertainment
Session Title: Radio’s Digital Future: HD vs. Satellite
Session ID: HLE6
Session Type: Fee Required
Date: Monday, January 8 [Add to Outlook Calendar]
Time: 3:00 PM - 4:00 PM
Facility: LVCC North Hall
Room Number: N262
Description: Find out the latest developments in terrestrial HD and satellite radio. What will be the business models? Where will subscribers come from? Why will satellite radio providers be acquired before 2008? How will terrestrial HD capture consumers? This session uncovers the challenges, opportunities and choices for radio’s digital future.
Moderator: Sean Badding, President & Senior Analyst, Carmel Group
Panelist: Peter Ferrara, President and CEO, HD Digital Radio Alliance
Panelist: John Gardner, Worldwide, Digital Radio Marketing Manager, Texas Instruments
Panelist: Andreas Lazar, SVP Business Development, Sirius
Panelist: Dan Murphy, Executive Vice President, Retail Marketing Distribution, XM Radio
Panelist: Bob Struble, President and CEO, iBiquity

[Show all sessions in this track/partner program]
 
Radio’s Digital Future: HD vs. Satellite.


well now. lets see. most towns have no hd radio. unless you live in a large metro area. so i'll say. nope. wrong. hd radio aint the competition. ipods are the competition. they are everywhere.
 
smashedcd said:
Radio’s Digital Future: HD vs. Satellite.


well now. lets see. most towns have no hd radio. unless you live in a large metro area. so i'll say. nope. wrong. hd radio aint the competition. ipods are the competition. they are everywhere.

You're right on target, and the next generation of small, mobile wireless Internet devices will change everything. I think streaming media and podcasting will make HD radio a mute point.
 
I don’t buy the CG’s assertion that HD radio will be a big competitor to Sat radio. It doesn’t look like terrestrial radio will be making any changes to their tired programming model anytime soon, even though some are doing some interesting nontraditional programming on their second channels, but that’s probably because there’s not many radios out there, like the early days of FM when programming innovation was common. The secondary HD channels are very limited in coverage and iBiquity gets a cut of revenue derived from the additional channels.

AM Stereo was more ubiquitous after this duration of development and cost way less for stations to implement. HD is doomed to failure for many reasons, to me its main redeeming value it the ability to implement it now and transition to full digital in the future, for an additional fee to iBiquity of course. The problem is, the HD cons (pun intended) outweigh the pros.
 
Just read this article on the "merger"

Analysts Doubt XM-Sirius Merger Will Fly
From Washington Post, April 26, 2007
By Sam Diaz

It is unlikely that federal regulators will give a thumbs-up to a proposed merger between the XM and Sirius satellite radio companies, according to three analysts’ reports issued this week.

The separate reports, issued Monday as a preview to quarterly earnings announcements by XM today and Sirius on Tuesday, point to the drop in value of the shares of both companies — about 30 percent each — since the merger plan was announced Feb. 19.

....continued at: http://www.freepress.net/news/22718
 
It is just too bad the government can't obey the Constitution! :-\ :mad:
 
I am curious. Does any of the programming sound better in HD radio then on terrestrial radio? In terms of the programming? We have an 80’s channel in Salt Lake. I haven’t heard it yet. But if it is like the 80’s channel that Clear Channel owned in 2000 on terrestrial radio I don’t want an HD radio.
 
Well you probably won't hear any commercials because there are few radios out there, and last time I read the contract iBiquity demands a cut of the revenue on the secondary channels, so I wonder when commercials will become common on HD2+, if ever...
 
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