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Let the hash wars begin!

> OK it sounds like CC made another good business decision.
> What other clusters do the same thing that CC does in
> regards to news staff and the like? If the mom and pop
> station had a cluster they would do the same thing. And
> probably would haev done it before CC did it.
>
> So what exactly is your point?

Radio stations don't exist for the sole purpose of making money, but are to serve the public, using the publically-owned airwaves. That they can and do make money (which I have no problem with--I'm just as capitalist as the next man) is a positive by-product.

The consolidation of our local radio stations has resulted in sound-alike, voice-tracked stations that can no longer be contacted after business hours to alert the news department (which only KFBX now has) if, say, a train carrying toxic chemicals de-rails in town. This happened recently in a town (in North Dakota, if I recall correctly) whose radio stations were all owned by Clear Channel, and there was no live person the police could contact at any of the stations to make sure the public was warned of the danger.

Business is all about making money, but life is not all about business. -- Jason
 
> > OK it sounds like CC made another good business decision.
>
> > What other clusters do the same thing that CC does in
> > regards to news staff and the like? If the mom and pop
> > station had a cluster they would do the same thing. And
> > probably would haev done it before CC did it.
> >
> > So what exactly is your point?
>
> Radio stations don't exist for the sole purpose of making
> money, but are to serve the public, using the
> publically-owned airwaves. That they can and do make money
> (which I have no problem with--I'm just as capitalist as the
> next man) is a positive by-product.
>
> The consolidation of our local radio stations has resulted
> in sound-alike, voice-tracked stations that can no longer be
> contacted after business hours to alert the news department
> (which only KFBX now has) if, say, a train carrying toxic
> chemicals de-rails in town. This happened recently in a
> town (in North Dakota, if I recall correctly) whose radio
> stations were all owned by Clear Channel, and there was no
> live person the police could contact at any of the stations
> to make sure the public was warned of the danger.
>
> Business is all about making money, but life is not all
> about business. -- Jason
>


When could you ever contact a news department at an Ancourage radio station at night? I bet you couldnt.

And yes they are there to serve the public.

In regards to ND, the police have something called EAS. And what about the mom and pop stations in that market? Why are they not held to the same standards?
 
> When could you ever contact a news department at an
> Ancourage radio station at night? I bet you couldnt.

Having never lived there, I don't know what arrangements they do or don't have.

> And yes they are there to serve the public.
>
> In regards to ND, the police have something called EAS. And
> what about the mom and pop stations in that market? Why are
> they not held to the same standards?

A large proportion of the local EAS tests I hear fail; they "drop out" in the middle and the station audio simply comes back on. The old EBS was more reliable. The only "mom and pop" station around here is KJNP 1170 in North Pole, but since they air only old hymns and preaching 24/7, I'm not inclined to listen to them for long enough to find out if they have working EAS equipment. -- Jason
 
> > When could you ever contact a news department at an
> > Ancourage radio station at night? I bet you couldnt.
>
> Having never lived there, I don't know what arrangements
> they do or don't have.

OK Fairbanks, SORRY. Sheeesh Same question. Hvae you ever beenable to call a news department in ANY radio stastion (save the big marlets) at anytime of night. The answer is NO! So why are you making a big deal out of it??

>
> > And yes they are there to serve the public.
> >
> > In regards to ND, the police have something called EAS.
> And
> > what about the mom and pop stations in that market? Why
> are
> > they not held to the same standards?
>
> A large proportion of the local EAS tests I hear fail; they
> "drop out" in the middle and the station audio simply comes
> back on. The old EBS was more reliable. The only "mom and
> pop" station around here is KJNP 1170 in North Pole, but
> since they air only old hymns and preaching 24/7, I'm not
> inclined to listen to them for long enough to find out if
> they have working EAS equipment. -- Jason
>

I dont know what the hell you are listening to but every EAS message that I have heard has come off just fine. If they are not then that station is in viloation. It is that simple.

You are unable to support your statements with any facts.
 
> OK Fairbanks, SORRY. Sheeesh Same question. Hvae you ever
> beenable to call a news department in ANY radio stastion
> (save the big marlets) at anytime of night. The answer is
> NO! So why are you making a big deal out of it??

Before Clear Channel bought them we could.

> I dont know what the hell you are listening to but every EAS
> message that I have heard has come off just fine. If they
> are not then that station is in viloation. It is that
> simple.

Many radio and TV stations have all kinds of FCC rules violations that just "slide" unless they're reported. There are some hilarious ones on Terry Keith Hammond's MonsterFM.com web site.

Locally, our TV Channel 11's tower beacon light (required by both the FAA *and* the FCC) is often out for months at a time. Since the winter cloud base is often well below the tower apex and general aviation pilots frequently fly over the downtown area, that's an extremely dangerous, potentially life-threatening situation.

> You are unable to support your statements with any facts.

I just gave you a bushel of facts, son. But your inability or unwillingness to acknowledge them is your problem, not mine. -- Jason
 
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