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HOWARD: Why is he sabotaging himself?

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eggsdannythomas

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I gotta say this week was aweful. I'm getting tired of Sal & Richard, and although I haven't really matured myself, the sex stuff is really tired.

The other day he talked about a party he went to for Kyra Sedgewick. He went on to talk about hanging with Liam Neesan, Merill Streep and Kevin Bacon -- how lame.

So is this what we have to look forward too for your thirteen bucks? Sounds like a rip off. I bring this up every few months because all along I figured I would get Sirius for Howard and like to gage what you guys think, but I don't even listen to him on free radio anymore.

Why would he give people a year to reconsider going to Sirius. He should be having top notch shows this year so you want to get Sirius. Also, he was dumb to admit he's only gonna work four days a week -- that and Mel is what made my decision to wait for wireless internet radio.
 
Who gives a rat's ass about Howard Stern? He is washed up and lame. The Opie & Anthony Show on XM radio is 40,000 times better than the Stern show. If you choose the doggy company over XM...you are stupid.
 
> Who gives a rat's ass about Howard Stern? He is washed up
> and lame. The Opie & Anthony Show on XM radio is 40,000
> times better than the Stern show. If you choose the doggy
> company over XM...you are stupid.
>

Actually, you can make the argument that if you PAY for radio....you are stupid.

Now I'm not gonna critique O&A, because they were funny when they were on in Chicago BUT they don't sound natural on the air. At least Stern's delivery is more laid back (as laid back as he can get) and Opie & Anthony have that morning zoo vibe. Just like Mancow.
 
Morning zoo? They make fun of the morning zoos of the world. Obviously, you haven't listened to them on XM, where they've continued to attack the fake radio of morning zoo and small market "Jerry and Terrys" of the world by airing awful regional morning shows and critiquing them.

Per Mancow, who wants to listen to a right wing Tony Little for more than 10 minutes.

Stern may have his rare moments, but O&A have taken the uninhibited format of satellite radio and used it exploit their talents. Without censorship, O&A have been able to present a much more cohesive program with fewer moments where they pause to clean up impending dialogue.

> Now I'm not gonna critique O&A, because they were funny when
> they were on in Chicago BUT they don't sound natural on the
> air. At least Stern's delivery is more laid back (as laid
> back as he can get) and Opie & Anthony have that morning zoo
> vibe. Just like Mancow.
>
 
Personally, Stern's been washed up for years. I think the 500 Million is good for him but the man's a moron, he was a moron and catered to people with adolescent humor. Watching some freak talk to whores, whackos and washed up porn stars got boring years ago. For him to go on a tirade about the world's out to get him when the FCC was bearing down on stations was self-serving, self-promoting. It got him nothing other than his bed partner milking his soon to be company for his meal ticket. You really have to wake up and understand what really happened here. Howard's just following his master around. For 500 million, I'd do it too. To worship and place such stupidity on a pedestal says how low our expectations of radio has become. What he was isn't what he is, just like the Stones, he should relegate himself to history to preserve the better memories. It appears that lack of talent can be overcome if you just say things that no one else will say, be ignorant and irreverent. It's a good thing this is the USA. Only here do we accept such crap as important.

> Who gives a rat's ass about Howard Stern? He is washed up
> and lame. The Opie & Anthony Show on XM radio is 40,000
> times better than the Stern show. If you choose the doggy
> company over XM...you are stupid.
>
 
> What he was isn't what he is, just like the Stones, he should relegate himself
> to history to preserve the better memories.


Funny you should make such a comparison. The Stones new album is the best thing they've done in 25-years, easily on a par with "Some Girls" which, ironically, came out at a time when everyone was saying that the Stones were washed up and should call it quits.

Perhaps the move to Sirius will be Stern's "Phoenix moment." I wouldn't write him off just yet. His recent riff on Cousin Brucie was one of the funniest things I've heard on his show in months and shows me he can still crank it up when he is so inspired. I'd be on the lookout for a re-invigorated Stern to storm satellite radio in '06 (or sooner).
 
From a standpoint of selling any signifigant numbers, they're washed up and have been since Tattoo You. You want to buy into the hype that's fine.

Howard's ability to draw the millions needed for Sirius to make any of this ridiculous deal worth it is just not there.

BTW. Your opinion on what is "the best" Rolling Stones album since Some Girls is just that. The sales don't justify it and the material is "great" in your eyes, many would disagree and even more could care less. The only reason Rough Justice is getting any airplay is because of the Ancient's tour.

Point being that Howard was brought over because his keeper and bird feeder made him part of the deal.

> > What he was isn't what he is, just like the Stones, he
> should relegate himself
> > to history to preserve the better memories.
>
>
> Funny you should make such a comparison. The Stones new
> album is the best thing they've done in 25-years, easily on
> a par with "Some Girls" which, ironically, came out at a
> time when everyone was saying that the Stones were washed up
> and should call it quits.
>
> Perhaps the move to Sirius will be Stern's "Phoenix moment."
> I wouldn't write him off just yet. His recent riff on Cousin
> Brucie was one of the funniest things I've heard on his show
> in months and shows me he can still crank it up when he is
> so inspired. I'd be on the lookout for a re-invigorated
> Stern to storm satellite radio in '06 (or sooner).
>
 
> From a standpoint of selling any signifigant numbers,
> they're washed up and have been since Tattoo You. You want
> to buy into the hype that's fine.
>
> Howard's ability to draw the millions needed for Sirius to
> make any of this ridiculous deal worth it is just not there.
>
>
> BTW. Your opinion on what is "the best" Rolling Stones album
> since Some Girls is just that. The sales don't justify it
> and the material is "great" in your eyes, many would
> disagree and even more could care less. The only reason
> Rough Justice is getting any airplay is because of the
> Ancient's tour.
>
> Point being that Howard was brought over because his keeper
> and bird feeder made him part of the deal.
>
To address your "points":

1. I'm not buying into any hype, I've listened to the album and, in mine and many other's opinions, it is probably their best record since "Some Girls". My opinion certainly, but one shared by many. There is a difference between artisitic merit and sales, but obviously, that is beyond your comprehension. Which brings to bear the fact that the CD hsan't been released yet so there are NO SALES to speak of, rendering your point moot. (But hey, some of us just like to argue. Whatever floats your boat)

2. By keeper and bird feeder I am assuming you mean Mel Karmazin. If you wish to pass yourself off as an informed bloviator you would do well to check your facts before you spew. Howard signed to Sirius BEFORE Mel did. Give Jay Clark the props for bringing Howard on Board.

You come off rather angry and uninformed, why so bitter?
 
Let's deal with reality for a second not what you wish were real.

You believe this to be a great album. Fine. Good for you and your friends. .I don't and neither does my circle of influence. If people aren't at all interested in it, it doesn't sell. If people don't care, it doesn't sell. Sometimes great work goes unrewarded for a variety of reasons, for the Stones, this is not the case. It's just not a big deal. They never were a great set of musicians so let's not put medicoriy on a pedestal here.

From the mastering to the musicianship to the inability to hold or note, it's just not quality work. Listening to a person attempt to hold a note or sing when they're well past their prime (and it's not like the "singing" was much better in his prime) is just not pleasing unless you want to love them "no matter what".

The last time I checked an artist doesn't put out an album to NOT SELL, they put it out because they want people to hear them. If it's not done in a way to reach people it doesn't sell. Their problem is that they're really irrelevant, very few people care anymore about the Rolling Stones' new music, they're more a part of history. That's just the way it is. That's the reason why people go to see them, to see a part of history. They really should stop embarrasing themselves in the studio.

As for people like you who like the new work, that's fine but to crtique it properly means you have to CRITIQUE it, it's just bad work. Nothing personal.
People who don't relate to it aren't wrong and it doesn't mean only "the smart people" appreciate it, it just means a small amount of people aren't willing to not.

If you think it's so great, you and your friends chip in and buy a few hundred thousand copies of it so my friends can clear their warehouses of the crap.

As far a Mel getting to Sirius after Howard? You're kidding me right? You didn't figure out how this was orchestrated? My God, the naivitae!

I'm not bitter, I just don't jump for joy over mediocrity that's all. "Artists" put their "product" in the arena, they're there to be purchased and judged. The Stones' latest waste of shelving space is having problems being sold because it's irrelevant and when listened to... even moreso.



> > From a standpoint of selling any signifigant numbers,
> > they're washed up and have been since Tattoo You. You want
>
> > to buy into the hype that's fine.
> >
> > Howard's ability to draw the millions needed for Sirius to
>
> > make any of this ridiculous deal worth it is just not
> there.
> >
> >
> > BTW. Your opinion on what is "the best" Rolling Stones
> album
> > since Some Girls is just that. The sales don't justify it
> > and the material is "great" in your eyes, many would
> > disagree and even more could care less. The only reason
> > Rough Justice is getting any airplay is because of the
> > Ancient's tour.
> >
> > Point being that Howard was brought over because his
> keeper
> > and bird feeder made him part of the deal.
> >
> To address your "points":
>
> 1. I'm not buying into any hype, I've listened to the album
> and, in mine and many other's opinions, it is probably their
> best record since "Some Girls". My opinion certainly, but
> one shared by many. There is a difference between artisitic
> merit and sales, but obviously, that is beyond your
> comprehension. Which brings to bear the fact that the CD
> hsan't been released yet so there are NO SALES to speak of,
> rendering your point moot. (But hey, some of us just like to
> argue. Whatever floats your boat)
>
> 2. By keeper and bird feeder I am assuming you mean Mel
> Karmazin. If you wish to pass yourself off as an informed
> bloviator you would do well to check your facts before you
> spew. Howard signed to Sirius BEFORE Mel did. Give Jay Clark
> the props for bringing Howard on Board.
>
> You come off rather angry and uninformed, why so bitter?
>
 
> Let's deal with reality for a second not what you wish were
> real, blah, blah, blah...

Whoa sorry there music "lover". I'll let you get back to your Hilary Duff CD, (after all it's number 1 so it must be the best music out there)
 
> Morning zoo? They make fun of the morning zoos of the world.
> Obviously, you haven't listened to them on XM, where
> they've continued to attack the fake radio of morning zoo
> and small market "Jerry and Terrys" of the world by airing
> awful regional morning shows and critiquing them.
>
> Per Mancow, who wants to listen to a right wing Tony Little
> for more than 10 minutes.
>
> Stern may have his rare moments, but O&A have taken the
> uninhibited format of satellite radio and used it exploit
> their talents. Without censorship, O&A have been able to
> present a much more cohesive program with fewer moments
> where they pause to clean up impending dialogue.
>
> > Now I'm not gonna critique O&A, because they were funny
> when
> > they were on in Chicago BUT they don't sound natural on
> the
> > air. At least Stern's delivery is more laid back (as laid
>
> > back as he can get) and Opie & Anthony have that morning
> zoo
> > vibe. Just like Mancow.
> >
>
To continue on O&A, even when their bits go wrong, it is just as funny because they point out that they've screwed up. That many times makes it hilarious within itself. It's not the greatest radio, but if you get it, it will still crack you up.
 
Translation of your lack of response:

"He knows more than me, I have an opinion based on the limited knowledge of things I have and when I post my opinion I think I'm right and hope others will think and see things the way I do, if they do then my point of view, based on inaccuracies and lack of knowledge becomes reality".

And we wonder why there's so many misinformed people.

> > Let's deal with reality for a second not what you wish
> were
> > real, blah, blah, blah...
>
> Whoa sorry there music "lover". I'll let you get back to
> your Hilary Duff CD, (after all it's number 1 so it must be
> the best music out there)
>
 
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