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Clear Channel may cancel talk station shuffling, keep Green 960 intact
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oaktree said:
Not in SF.
Rush has always, always been on a non-CC owned station in SF...remember, KGO actually ran him on weekends for a while, then Rush was on KNBR for some time, then KSFO took him.
When 910 first went general talk, there was a lot of speculation that they'd move Rush from KSFO, but Premiere kept the affiliation at KSFO in the end ($ no doubt).
With at least two high-profile personalities moving from KGO, maybe CC thought 910 is now "strong" enough to support moving Rush over, and that the station overall will make more money than just selling the show to Cumulus/Citadel/ABC.
When 910 first went talk, its schedule was a motley mix of second-tier and third-tier conservative talkers.
Madmansam said:
A) I wonder just how much napalm the Savage Weiner used on his bridge with CC the first time and B) he'd probably want to be on live in PMD, which isn't happening with Gene Burns aboard.
But C) he could be so desparate for ANY Bay Area affiliate that he'd agree to it...
OhioMediaWatch said:
And D) He'd probably demand a ridiculous amount of money like he has from previous SF area affiliates.
Why does Rush have to be pulled off KSFO (Cumulus) just because ClearChannel wants him on 910? Is there some law saying you can't be on two stations in the same market?
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confusedlistener said:
I don't know about commercial radio, but here in Boston, the SAME NPR shows run on WGBH-FM and WBUR-FM at exactly the same time. What's weird about it: WBUR consistently garners a larger audience for these shows than WGBH, although WBUR is 50K-eqivalent with a directional antena, while WGBH-FM actually pumps out 100K nondirectional from a site 650 feet above average terrain where a non-grandfathered commercial station would be authorized with only 25K. So even with a killer signal, WGBH can't measure up to WBUR.
Laurence Glavin said:
The only way Rush would move from KSFO is if the station's contract (if present) is coming to an end. Or, if KSFO decided to drop his show.
Most syndicated commercial shows are market exclusive. Limbaugh would not be able to air on two rival stations in the same market.
Public radio is different. Most programming is not market exclusive. Therefore, some programming (NPR, BBC World News, etc.) may appear on more than one station in the market.
FightingIrish said:
Public radio's biggest market-exclusive program is "Prairie Home Companion," which has been sold market-exclusive for years (and "PHC" stations get first call on Garrison Kellior's daily short-form feature "Writer's Almanac" and perhaps anything else he comes up with).
I think the situation is that NPR as a membership organization cannot give exclusivity to any of its members if there's more than one member station in a market. PRI and APM's relationship with stations is more like a network affiliate, and so they can offer market-exclusive if they wish.
Mark Jeffries said:
PHC airs on two stations in my market, both at the same time. They're both owned by separate entities. Only difference is, one is in mono, the other stereo.
PHC airs here on both major NPR affiliates - Ideastream's WCPN/90.3 Cleveland, and Kent State University's WKSU/89.7 Kent(/Akron)(and its host of simulcasters).
That can be still "market exclusive", even though WCPN is heard in most of the Akron market, and WKSU is heard in most of the Cleveland market.
There's almost no market overlap on a show like Rush's, which will air on only one SF market affiliate (be it KSFO or KNEW-to-become-KKSF). But you can pick up Rush on other signals audible in the SF market, such as Fresno's KMJ/580, Santa Cruz's KSCO/1080 or even Rush's original home station, Sacramento's KFBK/1530.
Here, I can hear Rush on three Clear Channel talkers - WTAM/1100 in Cleveland, WHLO/640 in Akron and WKBN/570 in Youngstown. Different markets, all owned by Premiere parent CC, of course. At one time, you could hear Rush on other stations (WKVX/960 Wooster and WFUN/970 Ashtabula, both eventually dropped Rush - the former for its oldies format the rest of the day, the latter due to CC selling it to a local group owner that flipped it to ESPN Radio).
That can be still "market exclusive", even though WCPN is heard in most of the Akron market, and WKSU is heard in most of the Cleveland market.
There's almost no market overlap on a show like Rush's, which will air on only one SF market affiliate (be it KSFO or KNEW-to-become-KKSF). But you can pick up Rush on other signals audible in the SF market, such as Fresno's KMJ/580, Santa Cruz's KSCO/1080 or even Rush's original home station, Sacramento's KFBK/1530.
Here, I can hear Rush on three Clear Channel talkers - WTAM/1100 in Cleveland, WHLO/640 in Akron and WKBN/570 in Youngstown. Different markets, all owned by Premiere parent CC, of course. At one time, you could hear Rush on other stations (WKVX/960 Wooster and WFUN/970 Ashtabula, both eventually dropped Rush - the former for its oldies format the rest of the day, the latter due to CC selling it to a local group owner that flipped it to ESPN Radio).
FightingIrish said:
And thus, he remains only audible in the SF market on CC's KSTE/650 out of Sacramento - and even then, primarily before sunset.
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