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Didn't see this on the news.

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Kudos to CLEAR CHANNEL Rocker WXTB (98 ROCK)/TAMPA morning show personalities PUDDIN' and PHATTY got involved and stopped a radical preacher, THE REV. FRED PHELPS, pastor of the WESTBORO BAPTIST CHURCH in KANSAS, and some followers who planned to disrupt the JULY 4th funeral of Sgt. JAMES STEWART, who died last week in IRAQ.

The protestors believe that the deaths of American soldiers is God's retribution for society's acceptance of gay Americans. They have been traveling the country for several weeks, conducting protests at soldier's funerals.


In an effort to diffuse the protest, PUDDIN' and PHATTY put PHELPS' spokesperson SHIRLEY PHELPS on the air and she had her say, and finally agreed not show up and protest, letting Sgt. JAMES STEWART be buried in peace and dignity.

 

[ynot2k]

> Didn't see this on the news.

Of course you're not going to see anything good that 98 Rock does on the news--I won't say it's an anti-Clear Channel bias since other folks in the building get good press when they do something worthwhile, but I really think there's an anti-98 Rock bias that isn't totally deserved, particularly when they do something good for the community like keep this Phelps idiot out of town.

The whole situation makes me tweak an old joke I heard:
If Brad Hardin (or Brian Medlin or Phatty or anyone from 98 Rock) walked on water, the media in this town would say "Hardin can't swim." <P ID="edit"><FONT class="small">Edited by ynot2k on 07/06/05 08:00 PM.</FONT></P>

 

[Bmedlin]

> > Didn't see this on the news.
>
> Of course you're not going to see anything good that 98 Rock
> does on the news--I won't say it's an anti-Clear Channel
> bias since other folks in the building get good press when
> they do something worthwhile, but I really think there's an
> anti-98 Rock bias that isn't totally deserved, particularly
> when they do something good for the community like keep this
> Phelps idiot out of town.
>
> The whole situation makes me tweak an old joke I heard:
> If Brad Hardin (or Brian Medlin or Phatty or anyone from 98
> Rock) walked on water, the media in this town would say
> "Hardin can't swim."

The print media AND tv in this town are an absolute joke when it come to covering radio.

You're right ynot, I could cure cancer and not get a mention. Of course if I killed a lizard it would be "Brian Medlin, Program Director of Clear Channel owned WXTB 98ROCK. Tampa Bay's Rock Station is a lizard killer!".
It's been this way since I got here in '90. I guess we've always been the bastard child on the dial.

 

[StudentOfDaGame]

I guess we've
> always been the bastard child on the dial.
>
Sssshhhhhhiiiiiiiiiiiiiittttttttttt! Bastard is spelled W-I-L-D! Just for measure. However kudos to Puddin & my man Phatty. The tv market could give two shits, but your audience is who matters. Good look!

O.

 

[Oakley]

> > > Didn't see this on the news.
> >
> > Of course you're not going to see anything good that 98
> Rock
> > does on the news--I won't say it's an anti-Clear Channel
> > bias since other folks in the building get good press when
>
> > they do something worthwhile, but I really think there's
> an
> > anti-98 Rock bias that isn't totally deserved,
> particularly
> > when they do something good for the community like keep
> this
> > Phelps idiot out of town.
> >
> > The whole situation makes me tweak an old joke I heard:
> > If Brad Hardin (or Brian Medlin or Phatty or anyone from
> 98
> > Rock) walked on water, the media in this town would say
> > "Hardin can't swim."
>
> The print media AND tv in this town are an absolute joke
> when it come to covering radio.
>
> You're right ynot, I could cure cancer and not get a
> mention. Of course if I killed a lizard it would be "Brian
> Medlin, Program Director of Clear Channel owned WXTB
> 98ROCK. Tampa Bay's Rock Station is a lizard killer!".
> It's been this way since I got here in '90. I guess we've
> always been the bastard child on the dial.
>


I wonder what kind of press 98Rock will get in the local area with the performance of the morning show today. When my alarm went off today, Phatty and Puddin were laughing at and ridiculing the British people and saying that maybe it was a "good thing" that there was a terrorist attack in London. Then later they seemed to be amazed that what they meant was somehow twisted and taken in a bad way. Gee, I don't know, maybe it was the laughter and the words they were saying that did it. I sure would like to see a transcript of the show this morning to further analyze how they could be so misunderstood.

 

[CCMark]

> >
>
>
> I wonder what kind of press 98Rock will get in the local
> area with the performance of the morning show today. When
> my alarm went off today, Phatty and Puddin were laughing at
> and ridiculing the British people and saying that maybe it
> was a "good thing" that there was a terrorist attack in
> London. Then later they seemed to be amazed that what they
> meant was somehow twisted and taken in a bad way. Gee, I
> don't know, maybe it was the laughter and the words they
> were saying that did it. I sure would like to see a
> transcript of the show this morning to further analyze how
> they could be so misunderstood.
>

I'm usually busy in the mornings so I didnt get to hear the whole show so if theres anything different that was said somebody let me know. Here's what I did hear. The story of the bombings broke and Puddin and the crew were discussing it and made a crack (that wasnt exactly inaccurate albeit exaggerated) on policing in London. A miltary guy called up and defended the policing there and the crew and the caller debated the topic for a few minutes and then as Puddin wrapped up the call he said something to the effect of Nobody wants to see terrorism but if 90 people die and it awakens the British people as to how serious it (terrorism) is then so be it. Provacative? Yes un-PC? You bet. But something that will deliver an FCC fine or suspension? Probably not.

PS. Its pretty refreshing if you ask me to once again have a morning show that pushes buttons instead of sitting on the fence all the time.

 

[Oakley]

> > >
> >
> >
> > I wonder what kind of press 98Rock will get in the local
> > area with the performance of the morning show today. When
>
> > my alarm went off today, Phatty and Puddin were laughing
> at
> > and ridiculing the British people and saying that maybe it
>
> > was a "good thing" that there was a terrorist attack in
> > London. Then later they seemed to be amazed that what
> they
> > meant was somehow twisted and taken in a bad way. Gee, I
> > don't know, maybe it was the laughter and the words they
> > were saying that did it. I sure would like to see a
> > transcript of the show this morning to further analyze how
>
> > they could be so misunderstood.
> >
>
> I'm usually busy in the mornings so I didnt get to hear the
> whole show so if theres anything different that was said
> somebody let me know. Here's what I did hear. The story of
> the bombings broke and Puddin and the crew were discussing
> it and made a crack (that wasnt exactly inaccurate albeit
> exaggerated) on policing in London. A miltary guy called up
> and defended the policing there and the crew and the caller
> debated the topic for a few minutes and then as Puddin
> wrapped up the call he said something to the effect of
> Nobody wants to see terrorism but if 90 people die and it
> awakens the British people as to how serious it (terrorism)
> is then so be it. Provacative? Yes un-PC? You bet. But
> something that will deliver an FCC fine or suspension?
> Probably not.
>
> PS. Its pretty refreshing if you ask me to once again have
> a morning show that pushes buttons instead of sitting on the
> fence all the time.
>

The British people have been dealing with the IRA for decades. They know about terrorism. The Big Boys may have been trying to push buttons by saying that a terrorist attack on the British was a "Good Thing" because it will wake them up but it really just showed how ill conceived their argument was. Terrorist attacks are not good things for any reason and if someone accepts that as an argument then it is that person who doesn't understand how serious terrorism is.

 

[titoisradio]

> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I wonder what kind of press 98Rock will get in the local
>
> > > area with the performance of the morning show today.
> When
> >
> > > my alarm went off today, Phatty and Puddin were laughing
>
> > at
> > > and ridiculing the British people and saying that maybe
> it
> >
> > > was a "good thing" that there was a terrorist attack in
> > > London. Then later they seemed to be amazed that what
> > they
> > > meant was somehow twisted and taken in a bad way. Gee,
> I
> > > don't know, maybe it was the laughter and the words they
>
> > > were saying that did it. I sure would like to see a
> > > transcript of the show this morning to further analyze
> how
> >
> > > they could be so misunderstood.
> > >
> >
> > I'm usually busy in the mornings so I didnt get to hear
> the
> > whole show so if theres anything different that was said
> > somebody let me know. Here's what I did hear. The story
> of
> > the bombings broke and Puddin and the crew were discussing
>
> > it and made a crack (that wasnt exactly inaccurate albeit
> > exaggerated) on policing in London. A miltary guy called
> up
> > and defended the policing there and the crew and the
> caller
> > debated the topic for a few minutes and then as Puddin
> > wrapped up the call he said something to the effect of
> > Nobody wants to see terrorism but if 90 people die and it
> > awakens the British people as to how serious it
> (terrorism)
> > is then so be it. Provacative? Yes un-PC? You bet. But
> > something that will deliver an FCC fine or suspension?
> > Probably not.
> >
> > PS. Its pretty refreshing if you ask me to once again
> have
> > a morning show that pushes buttons instead of sitting on
> the
> > fence all the time.
> >
>
> The British people have been dealing with the IRA for
> decades. They know about terrorism. The Big Boys may have
> been trying to push buttons by saying that a terrorist
> attack on the British was a "Good Thing" because it will
> wake them up but it really just showed how ill conceived
> their argument was. Terrorist attacks are not good things
> for any reason and if someone accepts that as an argument
> then it is that person who doesn't understand how serious
> terrorism is.
>

I did not hear the show but am a personal friend of Puddin's and from what has been discussed here in the context it is basically true. The attacks on London was a "good thing" the same as Pearl Harbor was a good thing and 9/11 was a good thing in that it woke up sleeping giants. The death of innocent people is never a good thing, however if the event refocuses Europe on the War on Terror and ends the political squabling both domestically and internationally on Iraq then some good has come out of these attacks.

The British people are very resilliant as history has shown. However they have been inudated with leftist propoganda over the past 4 years about Gitmo, Abu Grahib, and other anti-American retorhic that they lost focus on who the enemy was. There were good things about 9/11 as well, Americans stood up with one voice, putting aside all their differences for a common good. Unfortunately life returned to normal with vicsious elections, fights for internal power, and other arguments and hyperbole.

 

[Oakley]

> I did not hear the show but am a personal friend of Puddin's
> and from what has been discussed here in the context it is
> basically true. The attacks on London was a "good thing"
> the same as Pearl Harbor was a good thing and 9/11 was a
> good thing in that it woke up sleeping giants. The death of
> innocent people is never a good thing, however if the event
> refocuses Europe on the War on Terror and ends the political
> squabling both domestically and internationally on Iraq then
> some good has come out of these attacks.
>
> The British people are very resilliant as history has shown.
> However they have been inudated with leftist propoganda
> over the past 4 years about Gitmo, Abu Grahib, and other
> anti-American retorhic that they lost focus on who the enemy
> was. There were good things about 9/11 as well, Americans
> stood up with one voice, putting aside all their differences
> for a common good. Unfortunately life returned to normal
> with vicsious elections, fights for internal power, and
> other arguments and hyperbole.
>

Now see, the impression that I got from listening to the show is that somehow Britain deserved the attacks because their citizens had protested against the war. In addition to the "Good Thing" comments, it might have had something to do with jokes and the laughter at the expense of the British in between the newsreports of the bombings. But you know what? I think it is in very poor taste and very inconsiderate of the victims who died today to talk about it being a "Good Thing" while their bodies are still warm. Maybe that's just me though. Maybe I'm just misremembering it. Where can I get a tape of the show or a transcript to refresh my memory of what they were saying?

 

[titoisradio]

> > I did not hear the show but am a personal friend of
> Puddin's
> > and from what has been discussed here in the context it is
>
> > basically true. The attacks on London was a "good thing"
> > the same as Pearl Harbor was a good thing and 9/11 was a
> > good thing in that it woke up sleeping giants. The death
> of
> > innocent people is never a good thing, however if the
> event
> > refocuses Europe on the War on Terror and ends the
> political
> > squabling both domestically and internationally on Iraq
> then
> > some good has come out of these attacks.
> >
> > The British people are very resilliant as history has
> shown.
> > However they have been inudated with leftist propoganda
> > over the past 4 years about Gitmo, Abu Grahib, and other
> > anti-American retorhic that they lost focus on who the
> enemy
> > was. There were good things about 9/11 as well, Americans
>
> > stood up with one voice, putting aside all their
> differences
> > for a common good. Unfortunately life returned to normal
> > with vicsious elections, fights for internal power, and
> > other arguments and hyperbole.
> >
>
> Now see, the impression that I got from listening to the
> show is that somehow Britain deserved the attacks because
> their citizens had protested against the war. In addition
> to the "Good Thing" comments, it might have had something to
> do with jokes and the laughter at the expense of the British
> in between the newsreports of the bombings. But you know
> what? I think it is in very poor taste and very
> inconsiderate of the victims who died today to talk about it
> being a "Good Thing" while their bodies are still warm.
> Maybe that's just me though. Maybe I'm just misremembering
> it. Where can I get a tape of the show or a transcript to
> refresh my memory of what they were saying?
>

Well anti-war British MP Galloway (I believe that's his name) said basically London got what it deserved by sending troops to Afghanistan and Iraq, and he's British. Fox News and CNN all day yesterday and today were analyzing whether or not the British would stiffen up and stay the course on the War on Terror or if they would react like the Spanish did and surrender.

Also Howard Stern on 9/11 was joking about the planes and making cracks when the news first broke about the planes hitting the towers. He also said we should blow up the entire middle east that day including Iraq...its amazing how the Boob of Jackson changed his opinion.

 

[Oakley]

> Well anti-war British MP Galloway (I believe that's his
> name) said basically London got what it deserved by sending
> troops to Afghanistan and Iraq, and he's British. Fox News
> and CNN all day yesterday and today were analyzing whether
> or not the British would stiffen up and stay the course on
> the War on Terror or if they would react like the Spanish
> did and surrender.
>
> Also Howard Stern on 9/11 was joking about the planes and
> making cracks when the news first broke about the planes
> hitting the towers. He also said we should blow up the
> entire middle east that day including Iraq...its amazing how
> the Boob of Jackson changed his opinion.
>

So, you're saying because others have shown bad judgement in the past, it's okay for radio personalities to show bad judgement now? Ummm.... I don't think so. And news programs analyze the news. Can you show me where any of these news programs implied that Britain deserved these attacks or said that it was a good thing? I'll bet you can't. Besides, the Big Boys may be mildly entertaining but I don't think anybody listens to them for their timely and accurate analysis of the news.

 

[Obtuse]

Can't speak for the rest of Tampa Bay TV, but Bay News 9 definitely covered the Puddin'/Preacher story.......

http://www.baynews9.com/content/36/2005/7/1/104971.html

 

[titoisradio]

> > Well anti-war British MP Galloway (I believe that's his
> > name) said basically London got what it deserved by
> sending
> > troops to Afghanistan and Iraq, and he's British. Fox
> News
> > and CNN all day yesterday and today were analyzing whether
>
> > or not the British would stiffen up and stay the course on
>
> > the War on Terror or if they would react like the Spanish
> > did and surrender.
> >
> > Also Howard Stern on 9/11 was joking about the planes and
> > making cracks when the news first broke about the planes
> > hitting the towers. He also said we should blow up the
> > entire middle east that day including Iraq...its amazing
> how
> > the Boob of Jackson changed his opinion.
> >
>
> So, you're saying because others have shown bad judgement in
> the past, it's okay for radio personalities to show bad
> judgement now? Ummm.... I don't think so. And news
> programs analyze the news. Can you show me where any of
> these news programs implied that Britain deserved these
> attacks or said that it was a good thing? I'll bet you
> can't. Besides, the Big Boys may be mildly entertaining but
> I don't think anybody listens to them for their timely and
> accurate analysis of the news.
>

So you are now saying that instead of the Big Boys Morning show directly saying that London deserved the attack that they implied that. Which means that somewhere in your heart you either believe that London deserved the attack or are anti-98 Rock/Big Boys morning show that your are putting words in the Big Boys mouth.

Again the member of Britain's own parlament said London deserved the attacks for sending troops to Afghanistan and Iraq. I believe his name is James Galloway though am not 100% for sure. What do you believe about his statements? I think his are much more irresponsible compared to an implied statement or bad teeth joke by a morning show across the pond.

 

[Oakley]

> So you are now saying that instead of the Big Boys Morning
> show directly saying that London deserved the attack that
> they implied that. Which means that somewhere in your heart
> you either believe that London deserved the attack or are
> anti-98 Rock/Big Boys morning show that your are putting
> words in the Big Boys mouth.
>
> Again the member of Britain's own parlament said London
> deserved the attacks for sending troops to Afghanistan and
> Iraq. I believe his name is James Galloway though am not
> 100% for sure. What do you believe about his statements? I
> think his are much more irresponsible compared to an implied
> statement or bad teeth joke by a morning show across the
> pond.
>

Actually, I've said a couple of times that I would like a tape or transcript of the show so that I could know exactly what they said. And why are you trying to turn this into a personal attack on me? You're argument makes no sense if you read the posts that I made. I am not "anti-98 Rock". You may recall that I said in a previous post that I was awakened by my alarm clock and heard Phatty and Puddin' on the radio talking about the situation. So if I were anti-98 Rock, I would probably have my clock radio set to another station. Also, I am obviously offended by the idea that somehow the British deserved the attack. That's how this whole thing started. Now you said yourself you didn't even hear the show but are a friend of Puddin's. Why don't you ask him for a tape of the show so you can hear exactly what was said and the tone of how it was said. Then get back to me and tell me how I was mistaken. Because I don't have a photographic memory and it is entirely possible that I am not remembering what happened exactly. But I do remember that what they were saying pissed me off. So get that tape and get back to me. Otherwise, you really don't know what went on that morning on 98Rock.

As far as what James Galloway said in Britain goes, I think he was wrong. But he isn't on my radio in the morning so I don't see the point of discussing his opinions here on radio-info.

BTW: Terrorist attacks are not a good thing. Ever. However you can argue that good things may come out of the circumstance, such as people pulling together and helping each other or supporting their governments resolve to fight terrorism. So if anyone is saying that the attack was a good thing because of what the victims may do later, then they are using the language imprecisely. That will just lead to misunderstandings. I am hoping that this is exactly what happened. But the jokes and laughter about the British while this was going on makes me wonder.