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    I think the place that became a Wyndham has closed down completely, if it's the place I'm thinking of.

    Pretty cool that they found a way back then to have a local station for New Yorkers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dumber than a box of hair View Post
    August 27, 1967. 660 and 880 have shared the High Island tower since 1963.
    Across the pond, it was the day of (some will argue) the beginning of the end of the Beatles: the death of Brian Epstein. About 110 miles SW of Black Rock in Chester, PA, that day was also my 6th birthday (my last birthday before my parents' divorce).

    Moving back towards the topic - where were 660's and 880's sticks before they consolidated on High Island?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dumber than a box of hair View Post
    Not quite. First anchor of the all-news format was the late Steve Porter.
    I looked at it again Osgood was the second guy on birth of WCBS All News.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ixnay View Post
    Across the pond, it was the day of (some will argue) the beginning of the end of the Beatles: the death of Brian Epstein. About 110 miles SW of Black Rock in Chester, PA, that day was also my 6th birthday (my last birthday before my parents' divorce).

    Moving back towards the topic - where were 660's and 880's sticks before they consolidated on High Island?

    ixnay
    I know 880's was on Columbia Island across the sound before moving to High Island. I'm presuming this was a sandbar that was built up to be a suitable island to slap a transmitter building on...

    660's was located at Sands Point, Long Island right on the water. Legend has it Perry Como was negotiating a new contract with NBC and as part of the contract, asked for (and received) the piece of property that WNBC transmitted from to build a new house.

    Who knows why they were compelled to move in together...at the time, the Meadowlands was known as that place with a bunch of landfills, completely unprotected and had much land for the offering. Why they didn't choose to set up shop there with most of the other big AM stations is beyond me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Radio-X View Post
    Who knows why they were compelled to move in together...at the time, the Meadowlands was known as that place with a bunch of landfills, completely unprotected and had much land for the offering. Why they didn't choose to set up shop there with most of the other big AM stations is beyond me.
    Most of the stations that went to the Meadowlands are directional, and needed to be to the west of Manhattan and the boroughs to cover what was the bulk of the market when they were originally built. That applies to 710, 570, 620, 1050, 1010, 970, 1280, 1130 and most of the stuff higher up on the dial.

    660 and 880, being non-directional, picked sites that were on salt water due to the conductivity enhancement that it gives. Since the Hudson is a tidal estuary up to near Troy, the area around High Island is definitely surrounded by salt water. Another advantage of the site is that it spills less signal over the Atlantic, as it is to the north of Manhattan.

    They were not compelled to move to High Island... it is truly the dream site for both stations.
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    So I wonder why then-WQXR 1560 (now WFME), chose Maspeth, Queens, for its directional 50,000 transmitter? It must protect the other Class A station on 1560 in Bakersfield CA, so it has to null its signal to the west. And yet Maspeth is east of Midtown Manhattan.

    So why not follow the other directional AM stations and locate in the Meadowlands? Unless management figured Maspeth is close enough to Manhattan that it won't really matter. It still is heard in the nearby NJ suburbs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gregg. View Post
    So I wonder why then-WQXR 1560 (now WFME), chose Maspeth, Queens, for its directional 50,000 transmitter? It must protect the other Class A station on 1560 in Bakersfield CA, so it has to null its signal to the west. And yet Maspeth is east of Midtown Manhattan.

    So why not follow the other directional AM stations and locate in the Meadowlands? Unless management figured Maspeth is close enough to Manhattan that it won't really matter. It still is heard in the nearby NJ suburbs.
    Gregg, were you perchance the Bright and Early host on the foregoing frequency?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gregg. View Post
    So I wonder why then-WQXR 1560 (now WFME), chose Maspeth, Queens, for its directional 50,000 transmitter? It must protect the other Class A station on 1560 in Bakersfield CA, so it has to null its signal to the west. And yet Maspeth is east of Midtown Manhattan.

    So why not follow the other directional AM stations and locate in the Meadowlands? Unless management figured Maspeth is close enough to Manhattan that it won't really matter. It still is heard in the nearby NJ suburbs.
    The daytime pattern is directional towards the south and covers east-west quite well.
    At night the pattern is a figure eight going northeast to southwest with the northeastern lobe larger than the southeastern lobe. East/southeast and west/northwest coverage is nulled out so it wouldn't matter if they went west of Manhattan...they send no signal east or west.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wavo View Post
    The daytime pattern is directional towards the south and covers east-west quite well.
    At night the pattern is a figure eight going northeast to southwest with the northeastern lobe larger than the southeastern lobe. East/southeast and west/northwest coverage is nulled out so it wouldn't matter if they went west of Manhattan...they send no signal east or west.]
    But if they did go to the Meadowlands, they could modify the pattern. The only significant protection is Bakersfield.
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    But if they did go to the Meadowlands, they could modify the pattern. The only significant protection is Bakersfield.
    Good point! Is the real estate they presently operate from not marketable for some reason?

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