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WUSF TV SOLD AT Auction, is WUSF Radio next?

Broadcasting was a beautiful thing, it was supposed to be a public service for the good of the community.

Not for many a moon, unless you consider the low-brow seltzer-squirting comedy of Milton Berle or Howdy Doody, the fake drama of rigged quiz shows, and the banality of Ted Mack's Amateur Hour -- among countless other examples --- public service.
 
Not for many a moon, unless you consider the low-brow seltzer-squirting comedy of Milton Berle or Howdy Doody, the fake drama of rigged quiz shows, and the banality of Ted Mack's Amateur Hour -- among countless other examples --- public service.

Heck, that goes back to the controversies surrounding Major Bowes in the 30's!
 
Ok, I suppose I'll have to defend my statement. Consider this...

You used to be able to turn on your radio and get an accurate weather forecast. These days, you'll often get a forecast from yesterday or even a week ago, because the $8/hour board-op hasn't updated the "cart" with the forecast on it.

You used to be able to turn on your radio and get an accurate traffic report. These days, you'll often get a report from yesterday, etc, because of the same reason stated above.

You used to be able to turn on your TV or radio and get breaking weather updates. In 2008 there was a tornado cutting through the Tampa area and I flipped through the dial and there were hardly any stations covering it. I'm talking, EAS wasn't even activating on some stations. The station I was working for at the time wasn't even covering it...

The programming on broadcast TV was never truly AMAZING, but at least it had it's entertaining moments. Now you've got Steve Wilkos, Jerry Springer, Cheaters, and Court Shows all day.

The morning news used to actually consist of... NEWS. Turn on channel 13 in the morning these days and they're airing paid advertisements for some local event/business, disguised as a news reports.

I could go on, but I think you get the point. Sure it was always a commercial thing, but there was a little heart and soul, there was content. It's total garbage now, and then it's going away. I'm very nostalgic for the way broadcasting was when I was growing up because it was still somewhat relevant, and at least pretended to serve the community.
 
You used to be able to turn on your radio and get an accurate weather forecast. These days, you'll often get a forecast from yesterday or even a week ago, because the $8/hour board-op hasn't updated the "cart" with the forecast on it.

You used to be able to turn on your radio and get an accurate traffic report. These days, you'll often get a report from yesterday, etc, because of the same reason stated above.

You used to be able to turn on your TV or radio and get breaking weather updates. In 2008 there was a tornado cutting through the Tampa area and I flipped through the dial and there were hardly any stations covering it. I'm talking, EAS wasn't even activating on some stations. The station I was working for at the time wasn't even covering it...

…And who would report a train derailment that released a toxic cloud of anhydrous ammonia?
 
wanna bet?

What a drag it is, as the Stones said.

Also, I highly doubt that any station has ever run week-old traffic reports. Or still puts them on "carts." Or pays its board ops $8 an hour.

OK, maybe not week old. But I have heard a station run what was obviously a pre-recorded traffic report advising of a "major crash" on an Interstate in my area and I'm thinking "Great, I'm gonna get caught in this mess" only to go sailing by without a bent fender in site. Listened closer next time report came on and word for word exactly as earlier...and the sad thing is during rush hour on the way home later that day the EXACT same report was playing. Too bad that the report has been farmed out to some company that is several hundred miles away from where the problems are actually occurring. When it's obvious that the station management doesn't care what's being played, why should the listeners? And a friend that was interning at a "mom & pop" talk station [read that as one not owned by a big chain] while going to broadcasting school was told after he graduated that they weren't going to pay him minimum wage because he didn't have any "experience". Threw his headphones down on the board and walked out. After forking out all that money for broadcasting school he never got a job in radio and is now making way, way more doing a non-broadcasting job. And to this day they still use carts because "computers are a fad and besides we can't afford them". And by the way, I tried listening to the "mom & pop" station and it's obvious that they must have an orangutan or something with even less intelligence running the board.
 
I tried listening to the "mom & pop" station and it's obvious that they must have an orangutan or something with even less intelligence running the board.

But that's what you get listening to some 1K AM station that has no audience. They have no audience for a reason. If you listen to the popular stations, they don't run day old traffic or weather. It's typically done live. And that's nothing new. There were poorly run radio stations 50 years ago. But 50 years ago, you were probably listening to the popular stations. Now, you probably don't like their music.
 
nope

But that's what you get listening to some 1K AM station that has no audience. They have no audience for a reason. If you listen to the popular stations, they don't run day old traffic or weather. It's typically done live. And that's nothing new. There were poorly run radio stations 50 years ago. But 50 years ago, you were probably listening to the popular stations. Now, you probably don't like their music.

4200 watt FM station that has a talk format, usually in the top 5 of ratings. So there goes your audience theory. The traffic report was on the [usually] #1 rated corporate owned station, so there goes your "popular stations don't make mistakes" theory....and I DON'T like their music because they play the same 100 songs over and over and over again, unlike when they were locally owned and had a 4000+ song library. Was friends with a lot of the DJs years ago till most of them retired. Now they have only 2 live air shifts and I know the afternoon drive time shift is sometimes voice tracked. Tried calling to let them know of the traffic report snafu, no one answered ANY of the numbers, and no, it wasn't after or before business hours. Used to have the hot line number but that has been changed. And I like music of ALL eras from the 1920s on up to today's.....unless it's rap. So go pee in someone else's cornflakes.
 
4200 watt FM station that has a talk format, usually in the top 5 of ratings. So there goes your audience theory. The traffic report was on the [usually] #1 rated corporate owned station, so there goes your "popular stations don't make mistakes" theory....and I DON'T like their music because they play the same 100 songs over and over and over again, unlike when they were locally owned and had a 4000+ song library. Was friends with a lot of the DJs years ago till most of them retired. Now they have only 2 live air shifts and I know the afternoon drive time shift is sometimes voice tracked. Tried calling to let them know of the traffic report snafu, no one answered ANY of the numbers, and no, it wasn't after or before business hours. Used to have the hot line number but that has been changed. And I like music of ALL eras from the 1920s on up to today's.....unless it's rap. So go pee in someone else's cornflakes.

It's funny that these reports of bumbling incompetence always fail to mention the station or the market.

And I have never seen a successful station that had a 4,000 song library in a mass appeal format. Maybe that happens in classical music, what with all the different versions of most works, but it has been many decades since that was a mass appeal format.

P.S. 4200 watts is relatively low power for an FM, unless it is 4,200 watts at a very high location. Otherwise, it's the equivalent of that 1000 watt AM.
 
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Doesn't KNX do that? :D

Nah. It's just that traffic in LA this week is just as bad as traffic in LA last week, so it seems like the same report. :)
 
…And who would report a train derailment that released a toxic cloud of anhydrous ammonia?

Ah, the old urban legend.

The station did not report on it because in a market of 40,000 (70,000 in the county) anywhere in the US there is not going to be a news staff at 2 AM. Emergencies, such as the train derailment, should have triggered an EAS alert by the civil authorities who were, unfortunately, not trained to take that action. The blame lies entirely with those authorities; the EAS activates automatically at each station upon demand at every group station but it was never activated.

(The other question is about how many people in the market would even be listening to the radio at 2 AM in a community that has not continuous process manufacturing or other all-night activities).
 
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I'm very nostalgic for the way broadcasting was when I was growing up because it was still somewhat relevant, and at least pretended to serve the community.

At issue here is the definition of "community".

To most Millennials and many Gen X folks, "community" is not their town or school district or whatever... it is their circle of FaceBook friends and those they interact with on other social media sites (Snapchat, Pinterest, Twitter, etc.).
 
Ah, the old urban legend.

Urban legend? Your knowledge of the facts regarding the Minot incident is superior to that of Eric Klinenberg?

The station did not report on it because in a market of 40,000 (70,000 in the county) anywhere in the US there is not going to be a news staff at 2 AM.

By "station," are you referring to the six stations Clear Channel owned in Minot at the time?

(The other question is about how many people in the market would even be listening to the radio at 2 AM in a community that has not continuous process manufacturing or other all-night activities).

If there were no listeners at that hour, at what time should Clear Channel have signed off its half-dozen stations for the night?
 
Urban legend? Your knowledge of the facts regarding the Minot incident is superior to that of Eric Klinenberg?


Eric Klinenberg is not a broadcaster. He's a sociologist. He knows very little about broadcasting.

Eric & I have debated this subject before during his book tour. I brought up that the train should not have been traveling through a populated area carrying hazardous materials without first informing emergency officials. The train should have had a police escort. That's what the law says. That fact was also brought up in Congressional hearings on the subject. Basically, they were trying to sneak hazmat through a populated area in the middle of the night, and it backfired. That was not a broadcasting problem. That was a government problem.

In point of fact, the radio station had its news director on the scene within an hour, broadcasting the story. Radio was first to report this story. The local TV station didn't have any staff until the morning. If this really had been the problem Klinenberg says it was, the station would have been fined by the FCC. It wasn't. Nobody has pushed this myth since the Congressional hearings many years ago. The stations have been for sale for about ten years, at any price, and nobody wants to buy them. So they're still owned by iHeart.
 
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You mean no "real" broadcaster is going to buy them and hire 6 overnight DJs? Go figure.


Eric Klinenberg is not a broadcaster. He's a sociologist. He knows very little about broadcasting.

Eric & I have debated this subject before during his book tour. I brought up that the train should not have been traveling through a populated area carrying hazardous materials without first informing emergency officials. The train should have had a police escort. That's what the law says. That fact was also brought up in Congressional hearings on the subject. Basically, they were trying to sneak hazmat through a populated area in the middle of the night, and it backfired. That was not a broadcasting problem. That was a government problem.

In point of fact, the radio station had its news director on the scene within an hour, broadcasting the story. Radio was first to report this story. The local TV station didn't have any staff until the morning. If this really had been the problem Klinenberg says it was, the station would have been fined by the FCC. It wasn't. Nobody has pushed this myth since the Congressional hearings many years ago. The stations have been for sale for about ten years, at any price, and nobody wants to buy them. So they're still owned by iHeart.
 
Urban legend? Your knowledge of the facts regarding the Minot incident is superior to that of Eric Klinenberg?

I know a great deal more about EAS operations than he did at the time. The station that would have originated news for the cluster had, like 99.99% of stations anywhere, no night or overnight news staff. Only because they were all automated were they even on the air. Otherwise, like so many small town stations, they would have been off the air.

In any case, the creation of an EAS alert is not done by a station. It is done only when authorized by a member of one of the authorized civil authorities. Badly trained, they did not know how to do that. If the had done the training they could have been on all the cluster stations instantly, even if nobody was at the studios.

By "station," are you referring to the six stations Clear Channel owned in Minot at the time?

Yes, but only one was a news and talk station. That is where locals would look for news if any were actually listening at 2 AM... very unlikely.

If there were no listeners at that hour, at what time should Clear Channel have signed off its half-dozen stations for the night?

The reason why stations stay on the air in smaller markets is to avoid trying to turn the gear on at the beginning of drive time only to have it fail. Staying on is safer and largely cheaper. I discovered this at my first stations over 50 years ago and we never signed off. There was little listening, but we never missed being on for morning drive, either.
 
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