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Howie Carr Get Your Facts Right!!!

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Bad enough for Howie Carr to be blood thirsty calling for the execution of Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl today but the allegedly well read Carr had the facts of the real execution of Eddy Slovak, by General Dwight David Eisenhower during WWII totally wrong.

Slovak was in the terms of the day "retarded" and should never have been drafted but he was a warm body and that's all they cared about. In fact, Slovak was in the process of being discharged because of mental retardation when Eisenhower decided to make an object of this " mental defect". Sad, Eisenhower wasn't in reality much different than Adolph Hitler who summarily had ' mental defectives' executed.

Shame on Howie but why would he want to get the facts get in the way of a good story.
 
Sad, Eisenhower wasn't in reality much different than Adolph Hitler who summarily had ' mental defectives' executed.


Funny, I've never heard Eisenhower compared to AH before...but you know what they say about internet discussions..the first one to bring up Hitler looses.

But maybe someday you will have your own talk show and you can espouse your Hitler Eisenhower comparisons to your heart content....
 
Bad enough for Howie Carr to be blood thirsty calling for the execution of Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl today but the allegedly well read Carr had the facts of the real execution of Eddy Slovak, by General Dwight David Eisenhower during WWII totally wrong.

Slovak was in the terms of the day "retarded" and should never have been drafted but he was a warm body and that's all they cared about. In fact, Slovak was in the process of being discharged because of mental retardation when Eisenhower decided to make an object of this " mental defect".

References? Perhaps a source that even spells his name correctly?
 
Didn't really hear segment, been busy...I will say that while I didn't see it I heard there was a movie made about Slovik case...did Howie mention how Whitey got kicked
out of the air force...?

On conserv messageboard free republic it was being discussed in 05 and one post said:
>>Eddie Slovik was basically singled out because he was borderline retarded and "wouldn't be missed."

PAR35 replied:
>>Wrong. You need to look at the historical context to see what really happened to Slovak. Eisenhower signed the death warrant on December 23, while the Germans were still winning the Battle of the Bulge and thousands of American troops were running, rather than fighting. If the paperwork had come up the ladder two months earlier or two months later, the results would likely have been different.It was timing, not the criminal's mental state that earned him the ultimate penalty.
 
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I'm hardly a Carr fan, but the entire premise of this thread is BS.

Slovik was originally exempted from military service because of his incarceration as a garden-variety street punk.. When the US started running out of soldiers, the rules were eased, and he was drafted. He may not have been the brightest bulb on the tree, but he wasn't 'retarded' (is there a more meaningless modifier than 'borderline.' Either you are or you aren't.) Slovik got to Europe, got shot at, and decided he didn't like it, putting him in a group which included just about everyone in the service.

Slovik decided he wasn't going to serve in his rifle company, and actually put it in writing. His timing was bad, since the 28th division had just been mauled in the Hurtgen and needed everyone who could carry a rifle. Everyone, and I mean EVERYONE, from the company cook to the regimental commander, gave him a chance to recant, even offering him the opportunity to transfer to another combat outfit so he wouldn't have to carry his old desertion baggage. Slovik, listening to 'stockade lawyers', figured that if he copped at a court-martial he'd spend the rest of the war in the can, get pardoned after the end of hostilities, and at worst end up on the streets of Chicago with a dishonorable discharge. He was incorrect.
The idea that Slovik was mentally defective probably comes from the 'Forrest Gump-ian' portrayal of Slovik by Martin Sheen in the film "The Execution of Private Slovik", but that was the impression that the filmakers wanted to leave with the audience. It was Slovik who was executed, not Sheen.

There is something unseemly about using this event in some agenda-driven screed against Eisenhower. The idea that a man whose every command could lead to the deaths of thousands had it 'in' for some private who had refused to do his duty is just a non-starter. Slovik rolled the dice of death and lost. He may have been the only one to actually lose, but it was still his choice.

Regards,
TSB
 
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The unseemly (yet quite deserved) fate of Private Slovik aside, the idea that Howie Carr would actually stick to an unskewed version of the facts is probably sheer folly.
 
Dwight David Eisenhower was probably too busy screwing his paramour/driver Kay Summersby to care. Then again, did you ever see a picture of Mamie Eisenhower?
 
Wow, you folded pretty quickly on your bogus Slovik narrative. Why did you even post about a topic you know nothing about?

You should have quit while you were ahead, rather than decide to demonstrate that you know as little about Eisenhower as you do about Slovik.

I think you are being borderline foolish.

Regards,
TSB
 
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