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KVSH 101.9 Vashon

I think Bongwater and Fordranger need their own LPs. That would probably do more than anything else to give them a reality check (though Ford did actually say something smart when he acknowledged he compares LP to commercial).

Xmtrland, with a deserved bit of snark, rightfully aims toward a point that Vashon Radio is intended for... go figure... VASHON. From their point of view, the rest of the world can probably take a hike. If their take on programming and community participation makes the station a success in their little piece of the world, then LPFM worked... which, I think, was the whole idea.
 
I think Bongwater and Fordranger need their own LPs. That would probably do more than anything else to give them a reality check (though Ford did actually say something smart when he acknowledged he compares LP to commercial).

Xmtrland, with a deserved bit of snark, rightfully aims toward a point that Vashon Radio is intended for... go figure... VASHON. From their point of view, the rest of the world can probably take a hike. If their take on programming and community participation makes the station a success in their little piece of the world, then LPFM worked... which, I think, was the whole idea.

I agree completely.

Once again, I really did not mean to throw this new LP under the bus (I know the operators are working extremely hard to make it work). I'm just not at the point in my radio career where I have much of an appreciation for what LP is, and what it does for a community like Vashon.

I'm sure the residents of Vashon are tired of having countless AM tower farms near their homes without any local coverage coming from any of the stations that use the land.
 
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I think Bongwater and Fordranger need their own LPs. That would probably do more than anything else to give them a reality check (though Ford did actually say something smart when he acknowledged he compares LP to commercial).

Xmtrland, with a deserved bit of snark, rightfully aims toward a point that Vashon Radio is intended for... go figure... VASHON. From their point of view, the rest of the world can probably take a hike. If their take on programming and community participation makes the station a success in their little piece of the world, then LPFM worked... which, I think, was the whole idea.

FYI....I am currently involved with an LP.
 
I agree completely.

I'm sure the residents of Vashon are tired of having countless AM tower farms near their homes without any local coverage coming from any of the stations that use the land.

Hard to say on that one. The guys that live there might chime in on this. Personally, I'd speculate it's something the locals understand. You can't really expect that a company, owning a 50kW station that blowtorches half the country, will spend a lot of time on a little island it's not even licensed to. In that sense, this seems custom-made for LPFM. On the other hand, It could also be possible that the presence of those stations brought a level of power and communications that might not have been there otherwise...

... but then, I could be completely wrong about that.
 
Here is some history on how the 50KW transmitters affected my life growing up on Vashon. My parents moved here in 1970 when I was seven (so I can't really say I moved here, it was a family move.) My dad worked for IBM as a field technician. In 1974 he started to work at the KIRO transmitter plant on weekends. Needless to say that is where I got my interest in those big transmitters. Fast forward to now, I'm a second generation engineer at the plant. When I got the transmitter keys, my dad just gave me his old key. When Bonneville bought 1090, my sister who is a locksmith in West Seattle re-keyed both transmitter sites to a master key set up. So not only do I have my dads original transmitter keys my sister does the lock work. From 1982-2000 I was in Seattle mostly working as an engineer at Seattle stations, KUBE, KZOK, 106.9, KBCS, Kidstar.

Back when I was younger (15 years ago, I was in my thirties) I heard that a guy wanted to start an LPFM. I was a little interested because I felt if any one built the LPFM it should be some one local, like me. I also knew the uphill battle it would be. I actually help for Voice of Vashon into a non profit, my signature is on the incorporation papers. I was volunteer #2. I strongly pushed to webcast, telling them it would be a while if ever that they got an LPFM. So they started to webcast. We looked at options like getting a TIS station but that was put on the back burner for almost 7 years then they say the usefulness of a TIS and together with the Vashon Park District (the Park district hold the license for the TIS since they qualified for the TIS) they go the TIS signal up. VoV provides the playback equipment and programming as well as a crew that monitors if a message needs to be put up quickly.

As things moved along the VoV board (I'm no longer on the board, just a contract employee and technical advisor) never lost sight of the LPFM goal and pursued it. Slow and steady wins the race and as we all know they got the LPFM. In between now and then VoV survived, figured out how to raise money and groomed it's content. The music is musicians, managers and mixing engineers that have lived on Vashon or have performed regularly on Vashon (Clinton Fearon, Vicci Martinez who I have meet and mixed sound several times when she performed on Vashon before the Voice). We have volunteers that are voice over talent and actual radio DJ's, several people that had shows on KBCS also lived on Vashon and have contributed on the way. During the launch of KVSH-LP we had an X mountain DJ who every one would now, stop by and expressed interest in working with VoV (he now lives on Vashon).

On the equipment side VoV is very modern, no cart machines. Over the years we have used Web Jockey, our first automation, Sam Broadcaster and now Station Playlist, with the remote voice tracker module. Yes VoV allows some DJ's to track from home. That's because we want the volunteers to experience how radio is now, so if they go off and get a job in radio they have an idea how radio stations operate now. We do have 2 Turntables in the studio and 2 ready for a second production room. But no carts or Reel to Reel. VoV also has a PEG channel on cable channel 21 on Vashon (via Comcast) that they also program and will be putting a new automation/delivery system on line in the next two weeks.

The transmitter/exciter we are using today was donated by a popular Seattle FM station. The monitor amp in our studio was once used for KXRX. VoV has good support from the big boys in Seattle, I think that may have to do with some of my contacts. Vashon is lucky that we actually have a rather large talent pool to draw upon, being a kinda beadroom community to Seattle. I'm very proud of the Volunteers that have stepped in over time to help Voice of Vashon grow to it's goal of an LPFM. I continue to learn about myself and how to better myself because of what I help start 15 years ago. There are some really good solid people behind the scene at Voice of Vashon. I'll name drop here, Bill Wood who has produced his show for 14 years, The Jazz guy is an amazing volunteer and one of the original don aters. Jeff Hoyt who is a Voice over guy is always there when the group needs him and is now heading up the programing department as a volunteer. I remember 15 years ago when Jeff told me not to expect to much out of him, Since then he has stepped in countless times to move the group forward and actually spear headed the drive to get the TIS signal for VoV (5 years earlier he told ne no way did he want to be involved in a TIS station) I was shocked when I learned Jeff was now working on getting a TIS up and running.

So now here I sit, in charge of 3, 50KW am plants, an LPFM and a TIS (1650 has 3, 10 watt transmitters synchronized via GPS) and only two flashing stop lights in my way. On top of that I own a small paper www.vashonloop.com is the website and it's printed every other week (bi-weekly). So I know a lot about community and the Vashon community in particular.

Come out to Vashon Island to live and learn. It's true it takes several years before your a true Islander like myself, Jeff Hoyt is almost there, "a few more years Jeff and you will be a true Islander" I tell him.

So in a nut shell if it were not for those towers on Vashon I may have gone to work for IBM and never got the "Radio Bug" and who knows if VoV would have ever evolved without those towers, the first built in 1936 for KVI. And if you live on Vashon some times you can stop by the KOMO plant and get a peak at some real radio history. Walt Jameson filling cabinet is stored out here and it's a blast from the past going through that.

I have also heard that Vashon is Cannabis friendly. I can neither confirm or deny that one, you will have to come out and see for yourself.
 
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+1 xmtrland
 
Clearly VofV is professionally engineered- and I think we can all appreciate that. I've only had a chance to listen in the West Seattle/White Center areas that your signal reaches, but what I've noticed is that while the audio is clean and not distorted it is also pretty heavily compressed. On my car radio at least, this produces some distortion or artifacts that I can describe only as sounding like "splatter". Like I said, this may be due to listening only in fringe locations or on a crappy car radio (you'd be surprised at how poor the stock radio is in a MINI) but I'm wondering if anybody else has heard this? While there is obvious compression, perhaps there is a lack of high frequency limiting or some sort of frequency shift going on. If you know of a good spot off of the island where the signal is strong (instead of being at fringe strength) I'd like to go listen there to see if I still hear the artifacts.

Don't get me wrong- I love local radio and I think LPFM's and the like are the future of radio. As commercial radio becomes even more unlistenable stations like VofV will be the only option. I do hope it succeeds- Vashon Island is the perfect community to be served by an LPFM.
 
""If you know of a good spot off of the island where the signal is strong (instead of being at fringe strength) I'd like to go listen there to see if I still hear the artifacts. "


Yes a little heavy on the bass , I think, but sounds good, clear signal in Arbor Heights, granted I'm on a big hill.
Fauntleroy ferry terminal..Lincoln Park area.. Admiral Junction,, Fauntleroy & California Ave. Anywhere south of S.W.107th,& west of 35th S.W. to California Ave to the city of Des Moines waterfront I get a clear signal.

This is my local area and reception with a 16yr old GM Delco car radio seems to do good and I find that I haven't changed the channel. And a cannabis friendly Island? Edgar Winters Frankenstein 'LIVE' ver. will be played in full.
VoV now has preset #3 in my car.went from boring to interesting! lol
 
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Been listening to their online feed when they are playing music. Lots of lost hits! Tried to pick them up with my Grundig from here in Bremerton, but with their effective radiated power of only 7 watts, it still doesn't make it to here.
 
I know there are some MP3 files that I would love to re do if VoV had the man power.

KVSH-LP did have a little issue with the main antenna during the wind storm. They are on a backup antenna which is about 20' lower and mounted to a hand rail on the water tank. But it's is still the same ERP. The signal does not do as well to the north and west from the backup antenna.

Taking "Vashon Time" into account it could take 2-3 weeks to get the main antenna back on line.

Are you taking notes Bongwater? Putting up the antenna/tower/mast (whatever you use to put the antenna in the air) is tougher and more involved than it looks. I recommend if "they" (Group that gets an LPFM license) must do it "themselves" the volunteers be under 60 years of age that do the actual erection work (no Viagra does not help with this). Preferably under 40 with good strength. I think I was most impressed that no one had a heart attack (they had to climb a 80' ladder and work on the top of the tank all day and it was not easy work). If some one comes up with an idea that may save time most likely it won't and could cost more in the long run. I'm lucky I did not have a stroke just watching. I think this was a live and learn moment for all.

And no our main volunteer base is not the Senior Center here on the island. We just have very active young minded people over my age (51) on the Island. Vashon makes you feel young!
 
And no our main volunteer base is not the Senior Center here on the island. We just have very active young minded people over my age (51) on the Island. Vashon makes you feel young!

I bet it would be nice if some of the younger island folks pitched in. Unfortunately, the number of people out there who know how to do anything in radio is not very high. I'm glad KVSH has a dedicated team of volunteers who are willing to go the extra mile to make it work!
 
I kinda wonder if it's because the younger folks don't listen to the radio as much or it is not as relevant in their lives versus the volunteers that started the project 15 years ago. I work in Radio so I see the trends. I worked for Kidstar who had 1250 and latter sold it to Disney. So I see what they (Disney and the radio industry in general) are doing. I think that's where I and the current board have a differences of view on KVSH-LP and the radio landscape. However it is also an effective tool for getting out information to the local community in an emergency along with the 1650 signal.

The one thing that KVSH gives VoV is a way to hook in to the population on Vashon that still thinks radio is relevant. But even the kids are taking notice now that the LPFM is on the air.

We actually use a WIFI link in the 5.8hgz range for out STL. We are looking at establishing a link to the high school for use during remotes and latter on maybe a studio at the school could be linked in. We do have a graduated high school student that is getting involved in the remotes.
 
I kinda wonder if it's because the younger folks don't listen to the radio as much or it is not as relevant in their lives versus the volunteers that started the project 15 years ago. I work in Radio so I see the trends. I worked for Kidstar who had 1250 and latter sold it to Disney. So I see what they (Disney and the radio industry in general) are doing. I think that's where I and the current board have a differences of view on KVSH-LP and the radio landscape. However it is also an effective tool for getting out information to the local community in an emergency along with the 1650 signal.

The one thing that KVSH gives VoV is a way to hook in to the population on Vashon that still thinks radio is relevant. But even the kids are taking notice now that the LPFM is on the air.

We actually use a WIFI link in the 5.8hgz range for out STL. We are looking at establishing a link to the high school for use during remotes and latter on maybe a studio at the school could be linked in. We do have a graduated high school student that is getting involved in the remotes.

I'm in the vast minority of young people who are working their way into radio. I this young people avoid the radio business because they don't want to put the effort into a radio job.
Vashon is like its own little world when it comes to media coverage. Residents of the island really could use KVSH to their advantage for island centric news programming (which they will not find elsewhere). It may be costly, but its worth keeping afloat if the island wants local programming.
 
Vashon has its own newspaper as well. It is like its own little world - except when there's a major crime story, which rarely if ever happens on Vashon or Maury Island.
Most radio jobs nowadays involve voicetracking, morning zoos where you have to talk about the latest fart poked out from Justin Bieber, or automation. SAD world we live in.

-crainbebo
 
Most radio jobs nowadays involve voicetracking, morning zoos where you have to talk about the latest fart poked out from Justin Bieber, or automation. SAD world we live in.

-crainbebo
Not entirely, but voicetracking certainly does happen on many stations, and the morning show standby is indeed celebrity gossip. Not to derail a thread or throw anyone under the bus, but it seems like "Fitz in the Morning" on KKWF relies heavily on celebrity gossip for the morning drive.
 
Not to derail a thread or throw anyone under the bus, but it seems like "Fitz in the Morning" on KKWF relies heavily on celebrity gossip for the morning drive.

It stands to reason that many people who listen to radio also love gossip. You need to look no further than this discussion board.
 
That would be good to get some High School and College volunteers involved with the station. Ever since 90.9 and 91.7 got sold off, there's been limited options for students here in the area wanting to get into radio.
 
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101.9 has a pretty solid signal still...picked it up solidly on I-5 from U-District to Boeing Field...only a minor dropout downtown in the tunnels and on a steep southward dip towards Skyway and Renton where I was getting KINK from Portland weakly.
 
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