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Retro: Wisconsin & Upper Michigan, Friday, November 22, 1963

Ultimajock

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Retro: Wisconsin & Upper Michigan, Friday, November 22, 1963

Source: TV Guide, Wisconsin Edition

Channels listed:
2 WBAY-TV, 115 South Jefferson Street, Green Bay (CBS)
3 WISC-TV, 4801 West Beltline Highway, Madison (CBS)
4 WTMJ-TV, 720 East Capitol Drive, Milwaukee 12 (NBC)
5 WFRV, Mason at Roosevelt, Green Bay (NBC)
6 WITI, 5445 North 27th Street, Milwaukee 9 (ABC)
6M WLUC, Post Office Box 479, Marquette, Michigan (CBS/ABC/NBC)*
7 WSAU-TV, Wausau (CBS/NBC/ABC)**
10 WMVS, 1015 North 6th Street, Milwaukee 3 (Educational)
11 WLUK, 306 Cherry Street, Green Bay (ABC)
12 WISN-TV, 759 North 19th Street, Milwaukee 3 (CBS)
15 WMTV, 615 Forward Drive, Madison (NBC)
18 WUHF, 509 West Wisconsin Avenue, Milwaukee 3 (Independent)
21 WHA-TV, 600 North Park Street, Madison (Educational)
27 WKOW-TV, 5727 Tokay Boulevard, Madison (ABC)**
*Although Marquette is in the Eastern Time Zone, listings for WLUC are shown in Central Time Zone pattern.
**WSAU-TV and WKOW-TV do not telecast in [COLOR].

MORNING
6:30
2 Sunrise Semester
4 Operation Alphabet

6:45
12 Badger Farm Report

7:00
2 Cheer-Up Time (kiddie show hosted by Russ Widoe, WBAY-TV’s longtime Colonel Caboose)
3/12 Sunrise Semester
4/5/15 Today (Hugh Downs and Jack Lescoulie host actress Inga Swenson, star of the Broadway musical 110 in the Shade)
6 Audio-Visual Education

7:30
3 Cartoons
6 RFD 6
7 News
12 Wisconsin News

7:35
7 Fun School

7:40
6 News and Editorial

7:45
3 Lee Phillip (Shirley Graff shows how to make hand puppets; syndicated edit of WBBM-TV/2 Chicago’s longtime noon hour program)

8:00
2/3/6M/7/12 Captain Kangaroo (Grandfather Clock is talking backwards)
6 Cartoon Capers

8:15
6 The King and Odie

8:30
6 Cartoon Alley (hosted by Barb Becker and featuring Jack DuBlon’s puppets, including Albert The Alleycat, which gave the current conditions on WITI’s nighttime newscasts well into the 1980s)

8:35
21 Mathematics (Grade 9)

9:00
2 Physical Fitness
3 Jack LaLanne
4 Lee Phillip (same program as on WISC-TV at 7:45)
5/15 Say When
6M/7 CBS Morning News with Mike Wallace (this morning’s telecast includes a feature piece from London correspondent Alexander Kendrick about an English rock ‘n roll band called The Beatles)
10 Biology (Grade 10)
12 Romper Room (Miss Barbara)

9:15
4 Today For Women
27 The Christopher Program

9:20
2 Stitch ‘n Time

9:25
5/15 NBC News (Edwin Newman)
12 News and Footnotes

9:30
2/3/6M/12 I Love Lucy (Lucy poses as a maid to impress Fred’s old partner)
5/15 [COLOR] Word For Word
6 Deputy Dawg
7 Ed Allen Time
10 Science Reporter
11 Romper Room (Miss Maureen)
27 To Be Announced

9:35
21 Mathematics (Grade 9)

9:45
7 For Your Information

9:55
4 Editorial (Bob Heiss)
6 News

10:00
2/3/6M The Real McCoys
4/5/7/15 Concentration
6/11/27 The Price is Right
10 Biology (Grade 10)
12 Search For Tomorrow

10:15
12 The Guiding Light

10:30
2/3/6M/12 Pete & Gladys
4/5/7/15 [COLOR]** Missing Links
6/11/27 Seven Keys
10 Careers

10:45
10 Science (James Ebner)

11:00
2/3/6M/7/12 Love Of Life
4/5/15 [COLOR] First Impression
6/11/27 Tennessee Ernie Ford
10 U.S. History (Arthur Rumpf)

11:25
2/3/6M/7 CBS News (Bob Trout)
12 News and Footnotes

11:30
2/3/6M Search for Tomorrow
4/5/7/15 [COLOR]** Truth or Consequences
6/11/27 Father Knows Best (Bud dates a beauty contest winner)
10 Spanish (Irene Senia)
12 Mike Douglas (scheduled guests include natural-childbirth authority Dr. Wayne Fielding and singer Sue Bennett)

11:45
2/3/6M The Guiding Light

11:55
4/5/7/15 NBC News (Ray Scherer)

AFTERNOON
12:00
2/7 Noon Variety
3 Farm Hour
4 [COLOR] Kids’ Klub
5 Farm Digest (Jim Densmoor)
6/6M/11/27 General Hospital
15 Lunchtime with Goober

12:10
5 Afternoon Funtime

It was at 12:30 that President John F. Kennedy and Texas Governor John Connally were shot in Dallas’ Dealey Plaza. The first network bulletin about the shooting interrupted “As the World Turns” on CBS at exactly 12:40; although NBC and ABC fed bulletins shortly afterwards, neither network were actually feeding scheduled programming to their Eastern and Central Time Zone affiliates during that half-hour. By 1:00, all scheduled programming would be scratched and replaced with wall-to-wall coverage of the assassination. Although it’s not known if WMVS and WHA-TV took CBS up on their offer to carry their coverage, it’s most likely that WUHF carried ABC’s coverage, since they also regularly carried ABC’s evening newscasts in Milwaukee (rejected by WITI) during this period.

12:30
4 [COLOR] Weather and News
6 Day in Court
6M/12 As The World Turns
10 Children’s Fair
11 Noon Report
15 Romper Room (Miss Judy)
27 The Best of Groucho

12:40
4 [COLOR] Editorial (Bob Heiss)

12:45
4 [COLOR] Mid-Day (Ted Moore)
5 Lee Phillip (same program as on WISC-TV at 7:45)

12:55
4 [COLOR] Gretchen Colnik
6 News

1:00
2/3/6M/7/12 Password (Lena Horne and Douglas Fairbanks Jr. are the celebrity players)
4/5/15 [COLOR] People Will Talk
6 Queen For a Day
10 What’s New?
11 Ranch Party (music)
27 Women’s Quiz Bowl

1:25
4/5/15 NBC News (Floyd Kalber)

1:30
2/3/6M/7/12 Art Linkletter’s House Party
4/5/15 The Doctors
6 Who Do You Trust?
10 Potpourri
11/27 Day in Court

1:35
10 U.S. History (Arthur Rumpf)

1:55
11/27 ABC News (Lisa Howard)

2:00
2/3/6M/7/12 To Tell The Truth (Orson Bean, Joan Fontaine, Chester Morris and Phyllis Newman are today’s panelists)
4/5/15 Loretta Young
6 Movie (The Road to Singapore, the 1940 Bing Crosby-Bob Hope-Dorothy Lamour comedy)
11/27 Queen For a Day

2:05
10 Potpourri

2:25
2/3/6M/7 CBS News (Douglas Edwards)
10 Social Security in Action
12 News and Footnotes

2:30
2/3/6M/7/12 The Edge of Night
4/5/15 [COLOR] You Don’t Say! (Gisele MacKenzie and Herschel Bernardi are the celebrity players)
10 Lyrics and Legends
11/27 Who Do You Trust?

3:00
2/3/6M/7/12 The Secret Storm
4 December Bride
5/15 Match Game (Shelley Berman and Betty White are the celebrity players)
10 Viewpoint
11/27 Trailmaster

3:25
5/15 NBC News (Sander Vanocur)

3:30
2/3 As The World Turns
4/5/15 Make Room for Daddy
6M Darby O’6 (kiddie show)
7 Trailmaster
10 Sir Kenneth Clark On Art
12 Batchelor Father

3:55
12 News

4:00
2 Colonel Caboose
3 Circus Three
4 Movie (Legion of Lost Flyers, 1939 adventure starring Richard Arlen and Andy Devine)
5 Movie (Tom Sawyer, Detective, 1939 comedy starring Donald O’Connor)
6 Trailmaster
6M Mickey Mouse Club
10 Biology (Grade 10)
11 Movie (Menace In The Night, 1956 English drama starring Griffith Jones)
12 Pop’s Theater & Punky
15 Movie (When You’re Smiling, 1950 musical starring Frankie Laine, Bob Crosby and The Mills Brothers)
18 Mac The Mailman
27 Adventures in Paradise

4:30
2/7/12 Mickey Mouse Club
6M Abbott & Costello
10 Children’s Fair
18 Whirlybirds
21 Audio-Visual Education

5:00
2 Colonel Caboose
3/7 Huckleberry Hound
6 Hawaiian Eye
6M News
10 Science Reporter
12 Dick Tracy
18 Zoorama
27 The Rebel

5:25
4 Moments in Sports
5 Cartoons

5:30
2/3/6M/7 CBS Evening News with Walter Cronkite
4/15 The Huntley-Brinkley Report
7 News
10 Focus on Behavior
18 Milestones
21 College Of The Air
27 The Rifleman

5:40
5/18 News

5:45
7 CBS Evening News with Walter Cronkite
11/18 ABC News (Ron Cochran)

EVENING
6:00
2/3/4/15 News
5 The Huntley-Brinkley Report
6 Touche Turtle
6M Men Into Space
10 College Of The Air
11/12 Leave It To Beaver
18 Bronco
21 The Friendly Giant
27 ABC News (Ron Cochran)

6:15
7/27 News
21 A. Wizard (children)

6:20
6 News

6:25
4 Special Assignment

6:30
2/3/7/12 Great Adventure (Lloyd Bridges plays Wild Bill Hickok, Van Heflin narrates)
4/5/15 International Showtime (Don Ameche introduces acts from The Copenhagen Circus, taped in Denmark)
6/11/27 77 Sunset Strip (“Lovers’ Lane,” in which a politician hires Stu to prove his son, a Death Row prisoner, was framed for murder; among the supporting cast are Yvonne Craig and Bruce Dern)
6M The Travels of Jamie McPheeters (“The Day of the Long Night,” delayed from November 10th on ABC)
10/21 What’s New

7:00
10 Golden Years
18 Texas Rasslin’ (A syndicated hour from Ed McLemore’s Sportatorium promotion in Dallas, produced through KRLD-TV/4. WUHF ran this show six nights each week, with the current week’s show airing at 6:00 P.M. Saturdays and reruns from previous weeks in this Monday-thru-Friday slot. Upon McLemore’s death in 1969, the promotion was taken over by Fritz Von Erich and eventually became World Class Championship Wrestling.)
21 Science Reporter

7:30
2/3/6M/7/12 Route 66 (“Kiss the Monster – Make Him Sleep,” which instead ran on November 29th due to the assassination; James Coburn headed up the guest cast)
4/5/15 [COLOR] Bob Hope Presents The Chrysler Theatre (Rod Serling won an Emmy for this adaptation of the John O’Hara short story It’s Mental Work, starring Lee J. Cobb, Harry Guardino, Gena Rowlands and Archie Moore; rescheduled to December 20th)
6/11/27 Burke’s Law (“Who Killed Jason Shaw?,” rescheduled for January 3rd)
10 Red Myth
21 Continental Comment

8:00
10 Video Sketchbook
18 87th Precinct
21 Weather

8:15
21 British Calendar

8:30
2/12 The Twilight Zone (Richard Matheson’s “Night Call,” rescheduled for February 7th)
3 The Vince Lombardi Show (syndicated weekly post-mortem of the latest Green Bay Packers NFL game, originating from WBAY-TV)
4 Death Valley Days
5/15 Harry’s Girls (“Bet It All,” rescheduled for January 3rd as the series’ last NBC broadcast; the following week, this time slot was taken over by That Was The Week That Was)
6/11/27 The Farmer’s Daughter (“The Simple Life,” rescheduled for December 18th)
6 Peter Gunn
7 McHale’s Navy (“The August Teahouse of Quint McHale,” delayed from November 19th over ABC)
10 At Issue
21 Lyrics and Legends

9:00
2/3/12 The Alfred Hitchcock Hour (“Body in the Barn,” with Lillian Gish and Peter Lind Hayes; rescheduled for the series’ last CBS telecast on July 3rd)
4/5/15 [COLOR] The Jack Paar Program (featured guests are Liberace, Cassius Clay and comic Milt Kamen. Clay recited his comic poetry to promote his February 25th boxing match against then-Heavyweight Champion Sonny Liston, after which he changed his name to Muhammad Ali; Liberace provided piano accompaniment to Clay’s recitation. Kamen’s main contribution was a comic review of the movie Lawrence of Arabia. Taped on November 17th, this program was rescheduled for November 29th. Ironically enough, Liberace was scheduled to start a week of performances at a suburban Pittsburgh nightclub on November 22nd, as NBC was to have aired this tape, but the Kennedy assassination led to opening night being moved to the following night. During that postponed opening, Liberace was stricken by kidney failure, and afterwards was rushed to St. Francis General Hospital in Pittsburgh, where he was initially given a 20% chance of recovery. Liberace was still hospitalised when NBC finally ran this program the following Friday.)
6/6M/11/27 Boxing (Light-Heavyweights Mauro Mina vs. Allen Thomas, 10 Rounds, live from Madison Square Garden, with Don Dunphy scheduled to report. This match was postponed, and on November 29th Thomas lost a 10-round unanimous decision to Johnny Persol in ABC’s televised MSG match. Mina and Thomas finally fought on February 19th in Mina’s home town of Lima, Peru, where they had a 10-round draw.)
7 Ben Casey (“Six Impossible Things Before Breakfast,” delayed from November 13th over ABC)
10 Saki (Debut of a dramatic anthology of H.H. Munro’s stories)
18 The Best of Groucho
21 U.S. Symphonies (Howard Mitchell conducts The National Symphony of Washington in Mozart’s The Magic Flute)

9:30
18 People Are Funny

9:45
6/6M/11/27 Make That Spare

10:00
2/3/4/5/6/6M/7/12/15/18/27 News
11 Thriller

10:15
18 Milestones

10:20
6 Movie (The Gene Krupa Story, the Milwaukee TV Debut of the 1960 biography, starring Sal Mineo as the famed jazz drummer)
12 Movie (The Day The World Ended, the Milwaukee TV Debut of Roger Corman’s 1956 post-apocalyptic science fiction drama)

10:25
15 Window Shopping

10:30
2 Movie (Titanic, 1953 historical drama, starring Clifton Webb, Barbara Stanwyck and Robert Wagner)
3 Steve Allen (guests include Mel Torme, Louis Nye and singer Janice Baker)
4/5/15 [COLOR] Johnny Carson (Henny Youngman is a scheduled guest)
6M Movie (Father Was a Fullback, 1948 comedy, starring Fred MacMurray and Maureen O’Hara)
7 The Twilight Zone (same episode as listed at 8:30)
18 Movie (Bread, Love and Dreams, the Milwaukee TV Debut of the 1954 Italian comedy starring Gina Lollobrigida and Vittorio De Sica)
27 Football Forecast

10:45
27 Movie (Captain Horatio Hornblower, the 1951 adventure starring Gregory Peck and Virginia Mayo)

11:00
7 Movie (Sabre Jet, 1953 military drama, starring Robert Stack, Coleen Gray and Richard Arlen)
11 News

11:30
11 San Francisco Beat

12:00
2 Film Feature
3 Movie (The Indestructible Man, 1956 science fiction drama, starring Lon Chaney Jr.)
4/15 News
12 Thriller

12:15
4 Movie (Jump Into Hell, 1955 war drama, starring Kurt Kasznar)

1:00
12 News
 
The synopsis I got for the Harry's Girls episode was of the girls benefiting from a crooked roulette wheel.
 
Also, there seems to be some conflicting notes on what episode Route 66 aired that night. The thread on the Dallas, Texas schedule had "A Cage In Search Of A Bird" listed, which was actually scheduled for the following week. CBS's promo (aired moments before the second bulletin) merely said "Follow Tod and Linc on a mountain adventure with a pretty girl..." "Cage" had a girl hiding her boyfriend's poker winnings in the hubcap of Tod and Linc's car.
 
18 Texas Rasslin’ (A syndicated hour from Ed McLemore’s Sportatorium promotion in Dallas, produced through KRLD-TV/4. WUHF ran this show six nights each week, with the current week’s show airing at 6:00 P.M. Saturdays and reruns from previous weeks in this Monday-thru-Friday slot. Upon McLemore’s death in 1969, the promotion was taken over by Fritz Von Erich and eventually became World Class Championship Wrestling.)
Pretty impressive that a syndicated wrestling show could be aired all the way in Wisconsin. I assumed that pre-WWF (the regional era) that shows stayed in their own region. Did any other wrestling show have this far a reach?
 
Pretty impressive that a syndicated wrestling show could be aired all the way in Wisconsin. I assumed that pre-WWF (the regional era) that shows stayed in their own region. Did any other wrestling show have this far a reach?

...well, by the time Junior McMahon took over the WWF, Verne Gagne's AWA covered a stretch from Chicago to Phoenix and San Francisco, with additional affiliations to the local promotions in Indianapolis (Dick Afflis' WWA), Memphis (Jerry Jarrett) and San Antonio (Joe Blanchard's Southwest Championship Wrestling). Plus, WCCW was still regularly shown in Honolulu...
 
Very interesting. I've seen clips from that Jack Paar show (albeit in black and white) with Liberace and Clay. A very funny piece.
 
Very interesting. I've seen clips from that Jack Paar show (albeit in black and white) with Liberace and Clay. A very funny piece.

...the entire Clay segment was issued by Shout! Factory on http://www.amazon.com/Jack-Paar-Col...UTF8&qid=1413918253&sr=8-2&keywords=Jack+Paar their Jack Paar Collection DVD set. Apparently, although Paar owned The Jack Paar Program through his Dolphin Productions company, and all episodes of the series (except for the trips to London) were originally produced and telecast in color, Paar never bothered to maintain the master tapes of the series, merely holding onto copies of NBC's black&white kinescopes...
 
...also interesting to note that the celebrity players on that week's Match Game, Shelley Berman and Betty White, are still alive and working today...
 
Hey ultimajock, do you have any TV listings from local TV guides from either Illinois-Wisconsin, Northern Wisconsin or Minnesota State from the time period of 1979-1983? If so, just let me know and I'd love to see some posted!

Here are the listings...

2C - WBBM Chicago (CBS)
2G - WBAY Green Bay (CBS)
2S - KTCA St. Paul (PBS)
3D - KDLH Duluth (CBS)
3E - WJMN Escanba (NBC)
3MAD - WISC Madison (CBS)
3MAS - KIMT Mason City (CBS)
4MIL - WTMJ Milwaukee (NBC)
4MIN - WCCO Minneapolis (CBS)
5C - WMAQ Chicago (NBC)
5G - WFRV Green Bay (NBC)
5S - KSTP St. Paul (ABC)
6A - KAAL Austin (ABC)
6MA - WLUC Marquette (CBS)
6MI - WITI Milwaukee (CBS)
6S - KBJR Superior (NBC)
7A - KCMT Alexandria (CBS)
7C - WLS Chicago (ABC)
7W - WSAW Wausau (CBS)
8D - WDSE Duluth (PBS)
8L - WKBT La Crosse (CBS)
9B - KAWE Bemidji (PBS)
9C - WGN Chicago (Ind.)
9M - KMSP Minneapolis (Ind.)
9W - WAOW Wausau (ABC)
10D - WDIO Duluth (ABC)
10R - KTTC Rochester (NBC)
11C - WTTW Chicago (PBS)
11G - WLUK Green Bay (ABC)
11M - WTCN Minneapolis (NBC)
12MA - KEYC Mankato (CBS)
12MI - WISN Milwaukee (ABC)
12R - WJFW Rhinelander (NBC)
13E - WEAU Eau Claire (NBC)
13H - WIRT Hibbing (ABC)
13M - WNMU Marquette (PBS)
13R - WREX Rockford (ABC)
15A - KAVT Austin (PBS)
15M - WMTV Madison (NBC)
17M - KTCI Minneapolis (PBS)
17R - WTVO Rockford (NBC)
18E - WQOW Eau Claire (ABC)
18M - WVTV Milwaukee (Ind.)
19 - WXOW La Crosse (ABC)
20 - WHRM Wausau (PBS)
21 - WHA Madison (PBS)
23F - WIFR Freeport (CBS)
23M - KTMA Minneapolis (Ind.)
24MA - KYIN Mason City (PBS)
24MI - WCGV Milwaukee (Ind.)
26C - WCIU Chicago (SIN)
26G - WLRE Green Bay (Ind.)
27 - WKOW Madison (ABC)
28 - WHWC Menomonie (PBS)
29 - KITN Minneapolis (Ind.)
31 - WHLA La Crosse (PBS)
32 - WFLD Chicago (Ind.)
36M - WMVT Milwaukee (PBS)
36P - WLEF Park Falls (PBS)
38 - WPNE Green Bay (PBS)
39 - WQRF Rockford (Ind.)
41 - KXLI St. Cloud (Ind.)
44 - WSNS Chicago (Ind.)
50 - WKBD Detroit (Ind.)
60 - WPWR Gary (Ind.)
66 - WFBN Joliet (Ind.)
 
OK, here's a puzzler for anyone who wants to field it. ABC was running Father Knows Best at 11:30 Central (Bud dates a beauty queen.) David Von Pein's JFK Channel on YouTube has ABC coverage of the JFK assassination which started at around 12:50 Central.

Did that tape come from a Mountain time zone station that taped the feed at 10:30 Mountain for playback in pattern at 11:30 Mountain? If so, someone at that station must have rolled tape on a second VTR, recording the station's OTA feed. That might explain the vertical and horizontal roll when the station cut away for the live ABC bulletins.
 
...I'm strongly convinced that the ABC assassination coverage videotape containing that Father Knows Best feed was recorded off the network line at KTVK/3 Phoenix. Others have suggested that KBTV/9 Denver was the source, but as KTVK was more used to recording the ABC feeds to maintain schedule patterns for both itself and KGUN/9 Tucson, that seems the more likely to me...
 
Father Knows Best feed was recorded off the network line at KTVK/3 Phoenix.

Not KTVK. I have (and previously published) Phoenix TV schedules for 11/22/63. FNB aired on KTVK (and KGUN-TV Tucson) at 10:30 AM MT. Back then, KTVK didn't do much tape-delaying of ABC--the daytime schedule was all generally the live east coast feed (two hours earlier than ET), and prime time (other than Saturdays) was aired "in pattern" via 16mm film (and the same episodes run by the network that night). Saturday prime was aired live starting at 5:30 PM MT.

Because of how the YouTube entry has out-of-synch cuts between FNB and news bulletins, it may have been some station (in CT?) that was airing FNB on a one-hour delay. As in Phoenix, I don't believe there were other MT affils doing much delaying of ABC daytime in 1963. Wherever it was, it was downline somewhere, as evidenced by the 5 kHz audio.
 
As in Phoenix, I don't believe there were other MT affils doing much delaying of ABC daytime in 1963. Wherever it was, it was downline somewhere, as evidenced by the 5 kHz audio.
I have TV Guides from the 60s and 70s in the MTZ, and all the markets listed (even Denver) would air daytime programming live off the East Coast feed. Heck some Salt Lake stations were doing this as late as 1982.
 
Don't think it was from KTVK, as old program listings confirm both KTVK Phoenix and KGUN-TV Tucson aired FNB live at 11:30 AM MT (1:30 PM ET).

Not KTVK. I have (and previously published) Phoenix TV schedules for 11/22/63. FNB aired on KTVK (and KGUN-TV Tucson) at 10:30 AM MT.

...where are said Phoenix schedules, so that we can try to settle this discrepancy?...
 
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18 Texas Rasslin’ (A syndicated hour from Ed McLemore’s Sportatorium promotion in Dallas, produced through KRLD-TV/4. WUHF ran this show six nights each week, with the current week’s show airing at 6:00 P.M. Saturdays and reruns from previous weeks in this Monday-thru-Friday slot. Upon McLemore’s death in 1969, the promotion was taken over by Fritz Von Erich and eventually became World Class Championship Wrestling.)

...someone just posted a half-hour filmed match from Texas Rasslin' on YouTube at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ag7hLQ9IkXE&feature=youtu.be&a should anyone like to get an idea of what it looked like...
 
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