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  1. #141
    Quote Originally Posted by DavidEduardo View Post


    The usable signal for an AM (generally noise free and listenable indoors as well as in the car) is actually inside the innermost red circle on the radio-locator maps. This station does not come close to reaching Canada except as a DX target.
    Their signal in Montreal is surprisingly good. It's more than strong enough to trip the seek function on my G8 whenever I'm visiting family there, and I'd say it's listenable to non dxers, being just below local strength. Here in Ottawa it's a dx target. If your radio gets it in my neighbourhood, the radio is excellent. Out where my parents live on the east side of the city is where it starts coming in.

  2. #142
    Sort of back on topic, replying to some earlier posts. The Jack station in Greensboro NC played "Satisfaction" by The Stones, which of course is from the 60s. With no full-power classic hits station, 98.7 Simon is the de facto oldies station.

  3. #143
    Quote Originally Posted by mimo View Post
    Their signal in Montreal is surprisingly good. It's more than strong enough to trip the seek function on my G8 whenever I'm visiting family there, and I'd say it's listenable to non dxers, being just below local strength. Here in Ottawa it's a dx target. If your radio gets it in my neighbourhood, the radio is excellent. Out where my parents live on the east side of the city is where it starts coming in.
    What is receivable in a car is no indication of what is receivable inside homes and workplaces. In today's noisy environments, a signal of no less than 5 mV/m is needed to penetrate walls and overcome man-made noise. In many places, 10 to 15 mV/m is required.

    95% of measured indoor listening... which is the majority of listening still... takes place within the 10 mV/m signal area.

    Stations just below "local strength" just don't get any listening.
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  4. #144
    Quote Originally Posted by landtuna View Post
    What then is the purpose of a station using multiple cities in their COL?
    Multi-city IDs first began where suburban licensed stations wanted to be identified with the big city... KXXX Tolleson-Phoenix or KYYY Chandler-Phoenix or WAAA Homestead-Miami.

    Then stations wanted to include significant listening ares, such as KZZZ Dallas-Ft. Worth or KWWW McAllen-Brownsville and even KVVV Los Angles-Orange County.

    One of the most common ones, besides the Dallas-Ft Worth example, is to identify as Miami-Ft. Lauderdale or Ft. Lauderdale-Miami.
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  5. #145
    Quote Originally Posted by DavidEduardo View Post


    What is receivable in a car is no indication of what is receivable inside homes and workplaces. In today's noisy environments, a signal of no less than 5 mV/m is needed to penetrate walls and overcome man-made noise. In many places, 10 to 15 mV/m is required.

    95% of measured indoor listening... which is the majority of listening still... takes place within the 10 mV/m signal area.

    Stations just below "local strength" just don't get any listening.
    We all know they're not targeting Montreal, but they are heard quite well there. I've never heard it on a car radio, just the small one I bring with me on trips, and other radios in the houses I've been to have been able to get it. Their previous formats did have listeners in Montreal. We all know how the radio locator maps are not really that accurate, the one for this stations is extremely conservative. It's not CJAD strength, but it's good enough in the city. Since the station skews really old in it's music, I'm not sure how much they can sell it, except as part of a combo buy. I find it kind of odd that they flipped to music that has been dropped by oldies stations over the past few years.

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