TIME TO DROP ALL INDOCTRINATION TALK.
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    TIME TO DROP ALL INDOCTRINATION TALK.


    What the National Media offers is not Talk Radio as many of us old-timers recognize it to be. Today it's nothing but Indoctrination Talk. Either you agree with the host or you get yelled at should you dare to get on the line which for the most part is paid employees of the talk show host's company calling in.

    We used to have great local radio here in the Philadelphia Market with WWDB-FM. Now the plethora of indoctrination talkers here on our local radio stations has left me and others wishing for bygone days.

    Fortunately one of the Indoctrination Talker Programs was recently thrown in the can. Mr. Angry at Anybody but a Neocon Republican, Sean Hannity was given the boot at 1210 the Big Talker. Hopefully, these is a sign of good thing to come. Like many of you, would like to see Limbaugh pushed out.

    It would be great to see more local talkers talking about stuff that mean something to us on a local level and interacting with the callers in a positive way.

    Are you seeing positive change in your market?

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    Nope. The biggest station group in my area is owned by a Wisconsin Republican Party honcho who says he doesn't even mind losing money on his stations (at least not for a while anyway) because he wants to use them to "turn people's thinking around." So, of his 3 AM stations here, one is neocon talk (Rush, Sean, Savage, etc.), another is talk "lite," floundering a bit now since America's Radio News went phffft a couple weeks ago, with a mix of local neocons, sports-talk meatheads, and the oogum-boogum conspiracy shows (Clyde Lewis, George Noory.) You just about have to show your GOP membership card to work there; couple years ago they "purged" an old-school veteran broadcaster (from a previous management) who was doing news fill-ins and an OTR show, after he wrote a liberal opinion piece for a local paper that the new owners didn't like. They recently advertised for a salesman...part of the ad stated that if whoever turned out to be a good salesman, he'd get his own talk show as a bonus!

    The third AM is an odd duck that mixes showtunes and Streisand with NASCAR coverage. What's their target audience...gay rednecks?

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    "Indoctrination talk" -- as you put it -- is preferable to equivocal, boring talk radio, where a host is so afraid to say anything provocative that nothing is actually said.

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    Oh great, another one of these threads resurrected from the dead.

    Not Hot Talk, anyway.

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    What the National Media offers is not Talk Radio as many of us old-timers recognize it to be. Today it's nothing more than Indoctrination Talk. Either one agrees with the host or doesn't get on the air. In the rare instance that a NON ditto-head makes it pass the screener, the battle isn't won just yet. Should an objective minded, intelligent callerl dare to disagree with the "Self Appointed Radio King", the caller will be yelled at, put down, and quickly cut off the air... and even maybe thrown into a den of lions.


    We used to have great local radio here in the Philadelphia Market with WWDB-FM. Now for the most part there is nothing more than a plethora of nationally syndicated, indoctrination talkers here on our local radio stations. Those years of the past were truly gold!

    It would be great to have more local talk show hosts talking about stuff that really means something to us on a local level and interacting with the callers in a positive way.

    In the end will good, wholesome talk prevail? Your thoughts?

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    Something to chew on.

    If you live in a community that is rated "purple" by the pundits, then maybe the kind of talk radio you and I think would be better might have a chance of working. (PURPLE: A congressional district or state where it is not guaranteed which party will will the next election. In the next election you could have a Democrat (BLUE) win or you could have a Republican win. (RED) Thus, a political unit which is called Purple.

    I live in a county where the first election I paid any attention to after moving here 15 years ago had results 92% Republican, 8% Democrat. Would you like to guess what the ratio of editorials and political columnists looks like in my local newspaper? Do you have any idea what the business people of this community who buy advertising for retailing would do to any radio station that tried to implement bipartisan talk as you just described it.

    Last election: this count 18% Obama, 82% Romney. Would you like to guess what kind of reception the Chair and Committee members of the Democratic County Committee get when they go around asking retailers to allow little posters promoting a rally or fundraiser or lecture sponsored by the Democratic Party? A very timid: "Please go away. Don't ask that out loud in front of my customer. Don't create a scene in my place of business." And as they walk out the front door, they stop and read the poster in the window about a Republican Town Hall Meeting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by joshzz View Post
    What the National Media offers is not Talk Radio as many of us old-timers recognize it to be. Today it's nothing more than Indoctrination Talk. Either one agrees with the host or doesn't get on the air. In the rare instance that a NON ditto-head makes it pass the screener, the battle isn't won just yet. Should an objective minded, intelligent callerl dare to disagree with the "Self Appointed Radio King", the caller will be yelled at, put down, and quickly cut off the air... and even maybe thrown into a den of lions.


    We used to have great local radio here in the Philadelphia Market with WWDB-FM. Now for the most part there is nothing more than a plethora of nationally syndicated, indoctrination talkers here on our local radio stations. Those years of the past were truly gold!

    It would be great to have more local talk show hosts talking about stuff that really means something to us on a local level and interacting with the callers in a positive way.

    In the end will good, wholesome talk prevail? Your thoughts?
    You do understand what Hot Talk is, right? It's neither of the types you're talking about in any of your posts. It's not political, and it's not "good wholesome" talk, either. WWDB was not hot talk. I LOVED 'DB. It's probably the best regular talk station I ever listened to. But it wasn't Hot Talk.

    Hot Talk would be the biggest type of radio in the country now if we weren't a nation of snitches and sissies that have to call the FCC every time someone says a dirty word or insults someone from a protected class. As it is, we get the radio we deserve. Boring, bland lifestyle talk or sports and political talk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Small Market Guy View Post

    Hot Talk would be the biggest type of radio in the country now if we weren't a nation of snitches and sissies that have to call the FCC every time someone says a dirty word or insults someone from a protected class. As it is, we get the radio we deserve. Boring, bland lifestyle talk or sports and political talk.
    One of these days maybe you will have a 13 year old daughter. You'll be proud that she is not only learning social skills at school, but maybe in study groups at a house of worship. Then one day she comes home and says: "Dad, down at McDonalds this afternoon after school, we were gathered for some cokes and choclate shakes and one of the guys looked at me and said...$@@!//!!... What does that mean Dad. I asked him what it meant and just giggled and said he heard it on the radio but didn't know what it meant."

    I vividly remember the day my first-born had escaped campus and was working in NYC. She called me in hysterics and tears, having a meltdown over Howard Stern on the radio. As fatherly and compassionately as I could, I suggested that I had heard there were at least 6 or 7 radio stations in The Big Apple. Try another station for a change. The problem was: It was the radio in the office. Someone else had their hands on the control buttons.

    May I remind you that the people in our society who make up the bulk of the "let's talk with clean virtuous language" are from the faith communities that are the seedbeds and hothouses where the militant Right Wing "draws in succor from the breast". So the Republicans/Conservatives are a bunch of 'sissies and snitches'?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GRcowboy View Post
    One of these days maybe you will have a 13 year old daughter.

    I did. 5 years ago. I raised my kid to turn the dial if she hears something she doesn't like, and to not be a baby when hearing "naughty" words. In the end, that's all they are. Words.

    People that call the FCC over content are indeed sissies and snitches. I don't care what political stripes they wear. Do I think dropping f-bombs on morning radio should be allowed? Probably not. But calling the FCC over Miley Cyrus's dance on a cable channel (where the FCC doesn't even have jurisdiction) just shows how dumb and dependent on government so many people are.
    Last edited by Small Market Guy; 09-29-2013 at 05:51 PM.

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