680 The Fan News

This from the robertsnyder.net website (whatever that is) concerning Kincade and 680. One wonders what moves 680 will make in response to what 790 has foolishly done in the last little bit. I sense that 680 has been given a huge opening to plow through with this 2 Live Stews debacle moving to afternoons. Although 680 in my opinion has a higher degree of listenable sports talk they still stand to improve their lineup. Anyone with any idea as to what 680 may do or could do to enhance their own situation?

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The future of John Kincade at 680 The Fan in Atlanta has been decided. In a story, you're reading here first, John will stay at 680 The Fan after signing a new multi-year contract with the station. John will also still be doing fill-in work for ESPN Radio from Atlanta and occasionally in Bristol as well. In an e-mail to RobertSnyder.net, John said about his new contract, "I am pleased to announce that I am signing a new contract to remain at 680 The Fan. We have enjoyed great success and I love living in Atlanta and working here." So, loyal readers there it is. There are people at 790 The Zone (The Fan's competition) in Atlanta that read this site religiously, and I'm sure they will be quite suprised when they find out about John Kincade staying at 680 The Fan. 680 The Fan still has an opening for a midday co-host, and expect that position to be filled within the next 6 weeks or so.

> This from the robertsnyder.net website (whatever that is)
> concerning Kincade and 680. One wonders what moves 680 will
> make in response to what 790 has foolishly done in the last
> little bit. I sense that 680 has been given a huge opening
> to plow through with this 2 Live Stews debacle moving to
> afternoons. Although 680 in my opinion has a higher degree
> of listenable sports talk they still stand to improve their
> lineup. Anyone with any idea as to what 680 may do or could
> do to enhance their own situation?
>
> Read:
>
> The future of John Kincade at 680 The Fan in Atlanta has
> been decided. In a story, you're reading here first, John
> will stay at 680 The Fan after signing a new multi-year
> contract with the station. John will also still be doing
> fill-in work for ESPN Radio from Atlanta and occasionally in
> Bristol as well. In an e-mail to RobertSnyder.net, John said
> about his new contract, "I am pleased to announce that I am
> signing a new contract to remain at 680 The Fan. We have
> enjoyed great success and I love living in Atlanta and
> working here." So, loyal readers there it is. There are
> people at 790 The Zone (The Fan's competition) in Atlanta
> that read this site religiously, and I'm sure they will be
> quite suprised when they find out about John Kincade staying
> at 680 The Fan. 680 The Fan still has an opening for a
> midday co-host, and expect that position to be filled within
> the next 6 weeks or so.
>
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> This from the robertsnyder.net website (whatever that is)
> concerning Kincade and 680. One wonders what moves 680 will
> make in response to what 790 has foolishly done in the last
> little bit. I sense that 680 has been given a huge opening
> to plow through with this 2 Live Stews debacle moving to
> afternoons. Although 680 in my opinion has a higher degree
> of listenable sports talk they still stand to improve their
> lineup. Anyone with any idea as to what 680 may do or could
> do to enhance their own situation?



attn: JeffMidtown: don't delete this like you have every other thread involving 790 and the Stews (without explanation, i might add) in the past two weeks----I am not personally insulting anyone.

Actually (and I don't work for either station jeffco so I dont have to hide behind a message board personae to flame potential competitors. Read: I'm not looking for a job), I think the Stews are actually a more professional radio program than B&K. The Stews understand that they are selling a product and sell it. If you dont like it, that's cool, but even an alleged radio "pro" like yourself would have to admit (if you bothered to listen) that Doug and Ryan have improved a ton over the past year or so and do their job. Which is to produce a compelling enough radio program so that they can sell stuff to the people that listen to said program.


I respect the hound out of Kincade even though he rubs me the wrong way personally. Dude is talented. Buck Belue is not. His schtick of over-ennunciating every other word is annoying and un-proffesional.It annoys me that 680 successfully markets based on Buck's career at UGA---I have two degrees from UGA but I wouldnt even put him in my Top 50 of all time players from UGA so to me,that is nil as a marketing concept for a radio show.Honestly---- B&K's success is baffling to me and has been from the first time that I listened to their show.

I understand that a lot of boarders dont like The Stews because they are too "unprofessional" or "black", and not traditional radio guys. Get over it. A lot of this is jealousy and a lot of it is based in the fact that you guys may have wished that you had come up with the "Urban Sports Talk" concept. Me too. The Stews are famous and making good money in an industry that does not normally afford people that opportunity. I actually give them a great deal of respect. I used to find their show unlistenable. Now, I enjoy it.
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> > This from the robertsnyder.net website (whatever that is)
> > concerning Kincade and 680. One wonders what moves 680
> will
> > make in response to what 790 has foolishly done in the
> last
> > little bit. I sense that 680 has been given a huge opening
>
> > to plow through with this 2 Live Stews debacle moving to
> > afternoons. Although 680 in my opinion has a higher degree
>
> > of listenable sports talk they still stand to improve
> their
> > lineup. Anyone with any idea as to what 680 may do or
> could
> > do to enhance their own situation?
>
>
>
> attn: JeffMidtown: don't delete this like you have every
> other thread involving 790 and the Stews (without
> explanation, i might add) in the past two weeks----I am not
> personally insulting anyone.

#1 I don't have to explain to anyone except to the admins of the board why or why not I close or delete posts.

#2 The reason that the posts you talk about were deleted was that it had strayed away from Radio and got into a racial discussion.

Bottom line, if it isn't about radio, it doesn't belong on this board. Period. If people want to debate about racial issues, do it somewhere else.


> Actually (and I don't work for either station jeffco so I
> dont have to hide behind a message board personae to flame
> potential competitors. Read: I'm not looking for a job), I
> think the Stews are actually a more professional radio
> program than B&K. The Stews understand that they are selling
> a product and sell it. If you dont like it, that's cool, but
> even an alleged radio "pro" like yourself would have to
> admit (if you bothered to listen) that Doug and Ryan have
> improved a ton over the past year or so and do their job.
> Which is to produce a compelling enough radio program so
> that they can sell stuff to the people that listen to said
> program.
>
>
> I respect the hound out of Kincade even though he rubs me
> the wrong way personally. Dude is talented. Buck Belue is
> not. His schtick of over-ennunciating every other word is
> annoying and un-proffesional.It annoys me that 680
> successfully markets based on Buck's career at UGA---I have
> two degrees from UGA but I wouldnt even put him in my Top 50
> of all time players from UGA so to me,that is nil as a
> marketing concept for a radio show.Honestly---- B&K's
> success is baffling to me and has been from the first time
> that I listened to their show.
>
> I understand that a lot of boarders dont like The Stews
> because they are too "unprofessional" or "black", and not
> traditional radio guys. Get over it. A lot of this is
> jealousy and a lot of it is based in the fact that you guys
> may have wished that you had come up with the "Urban Sports
> Talk" concept. Me too. The Stews are famous and making good
> money in an industry that does not normally afford people
> that opportunity. I actually give them a great deal of
> respect. I used to find their show unlistenable. Now, I
> enjoy it.
>
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Great post

It is nice to see that someone can discuss the two sports talk afternoon drive offerings and not have to drag it into the mud (racially).
I think your post makes a lot of sense. The Stews have grown a lot and really understand the marketing of their radio program. This is the move that I think will finally push 790 over 680 in afternoon drive after numerous failed attempts. (Remember Mayhem tried first, then Bottom Line derailed and Cellini was shown the door, then the first Big Show which turned into a battle of egos between Oliver and Dimino (guess who won the internal war) and then the lame Big Show without Oliver).
I too can't really grasp the appeal of Buck and Kincade. I also am surprised that Kincade stayed at 680 in Atlanta when it appears he was offered the full-time position with ESPN Radio to replace Chuck Wilson. I would think hosting a national sports show on over 300 affiliates is better than teaming with Huckleberry Hound in the afternoons.
680 was smart to secure Kincade as that show would have sunk without him. The Morning Show with Rude and Dukes has its moments. Perry is talented but can't fly solo. O'Reilly in the middle of the day just is horrid. It also hurts the momentum for their top show by giving it a horrendous lead-in.
We will have to watch the afternoon drive battle closely. I have noticed a huge step up in advertisers on B&K lately. This was before the Stews announcement though.

> #1 I don't have to explain to anyone except to the admins of
> the board why or why not I close or delete posts.
>
> #2 The reason that the posts you talk about were deleted was
> that it had strayed away from Radio and got into a racial
> discussion.
>
> Bottom line, if it isn't about radio, it doesn't belong on
> this board. Period. If people want to debate about racial
> issues, do it somewhere else.

hey, hey; no disrespect to you Jeff.....I think I speak for all of the Atlanta boarders (and I'm more a lurker) when I say how much I appreciate the work (sic) that you do as a mod and to the other people that provide the service that this board provides in general.

That being said, I personally thought it was out of line for you to delete some posts about the Stews when you let these 640/charachter assasination/self promotion threads run rampant. But....no harm, no foul my man.... Its your job as mod to regulate these things. But, as a suggestion, I dont think that it would be a bad thing to discuss the race and radio issue with regards to the Atlanta radio market. It plays a huge role in every aspect of the business---especially in a city like Atlanta.

Any other opinions on this subject or am I out of line as usual?
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Thanks for making clear my radio expertise.

For the record the 2 Live Pughs are awful.

For the record Buck Belue is a very hard listen and if not for his UGA career would be selling cars and listening to sports radio instead of trying to do it.

But in football season he is a magnet for all the Bulldog fans.

Other than that he serves no real purpose at all in my opinion.

> > This from the robertsnyder.net website (whatever that is)
> > concerning Kincade and 680. One wonders what moves 680
> will
> > make in response to what 790 has foolishly done in the
> last
> > little bit. I sense that 680 has been given a huge opening
>
> > to plow through with this 2 Live Stews debacle moving to
> > afternoons. Although 680 in my opinion has a higher degree
>
> > of listenable sports talk they still stand to improve
> their
> > lineup. Anyone with any idea as to what 680 may do or
> could
> > do to enhance their own situation?
>
>
>
> attn: JeffMidtown: don't delete this like you have every
> other thread involving 790 and the Stews (without
> explanation, i might add) in the past two weeks----I am not
> personally insulting anyone.
>
> Actually (and I don't work for either station jeffco so I
> dont have to hide behind a message board personae to flame
> potential competitors. Read: I'm not looking for a job), I
> think the Stews are actually a more professional radio
> program than B&K. The Stews understand that they are selling
> a product and sell it. If you dont like it, that's cool, but
> even an alleged radio "pro" like yourself would have to
> admit (if you bothered to listen) that Doug and Ryan have
> improved a ton over the past year or so and do their job.
> Which is to produce a compelling enough radio program so
> that they can sell stuff to the people that listen to said
> program.
>
>
> I respect the hound out of Kincade even though he rubs me
> the wrong way personally. Dude is talented. Buck Belue is
> not. His schtick of over-ennunciating every other word is
> annoying and un-proffesional.It annoys me that 680
> successfully markets based on Buck's career at UGA---I have
> two degrees from UGA but I wouldnt even put him in my Top 50
> of all time players from UGA so to me,that is nil as a
> marketing concept for a radio show.Honestly---- B&K's
> success is baffling to me and has been from the first time
> that I listened to their show.
>
> I understand that a lot of boarders dont like The Stews
> because they are too "unprofessional" or "black", and not
> traditional radio guys. Get over it. A lot of this is
> jealousy and a lot of it is based in the fact that you guys
> may have wished that you had come up with the "Urban Sports
> Talk" concept. Me too. The Stews are famous and making good
> money in an industry that does not normally afford people
> that opportunity. I actually give them a great deal of
> respect. I used to find their show unlistenable. Now, I
> enjoy it.
>

For what it's worth, I find Rude and Dukes completely unlistenable. Same with Perry. So I don't listen. I get tired of Mike Bell talking about drinking and strip joints (though he knows his auto racing), but I put up with him to listen to Steak and Nick.
The Stews have grown on me and I like Kincade.
What I love is Dimino's Hardball show, especially the interviews with the baseball greats. Too bad 790 cuts off the repeats in mid-interview at the top of the hour. That makes them sound like market 190.
And please, stop all the lame sound effects on 680.
That's my two cents.