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Carrie Fisher has died at age 60

This is the comment that I was reffering to:

George Lucas pulled a huge fast one on the world's people with Star Wars. He took what was basically a battle scene from WWII and converted it to science fiction (and very poor sci-fi at that) and packaged it inside a 1940's serial wrapper. It is neither good science nor anywhere accurate to space travel as it was known in 1977. It was so bad it could, and should, have been a Disney movie for 5-year olds. But even within that, Fisher's role was not significant and didn't do any more for women than hundreds of other motion pictures (when most were made when women did not have basic rights).
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So again we get it, you're not a SW fan...

R
 
seatownmedia said:
I also heard she was working on a documentary about her mother, Debbie Reynolds. I wonder about the status of that project. Anyone know? I hope it gets completed.
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I learned tonight, due to her mother's death, that this documentary has been completed and screened in Cannes. Set to show on HBO in 2017. Fortunately or unfortunately, circumstances today will likely make this a huge hit.

As for Carrie Fisher being an unimportant story, I don't understand that. As I posted, she was a very prolific player in Hollywood even after Star Wars, mostly behind the scenes.
 
seatownmedia said:
As for Carrie Fisher being an unimportant story, I don't understand that. As I posted, she was a very prolific player in Hollywood even after Star Wars, mostly behind the scenes.
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I didn't say Fisher was "unimportant". I said I was surprised at the overwhelming coverage given her as she has been out of the Hollywood limelight for many years and is associated with only one popular film.

Your "behind the scenes" statement answers your question.

Now, with the death of her mother only days apart I suspect the media coverage will intensify yet again.
 
landtuna said:
I didn't say Fisher was "unimportant". I said I was surprised at the overwhelming coverage given her as she has been out of the Hollywood limelight for many years and is associated with only one popular film.

Your "behind the scenes" statement answers your question.

Now, with the death of her mother only days apart I suspect the media coverage will intensify yet again.
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Yes you did.

"She just was not very important either personally or as a public person."

However I do agree with you the coverage will "intensify yet again".
 
I was surprised at the overwhelming coverage given her as she has been out of the Hollywood limelight for many years and is associated with only one popular film.
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So her appearance in The Empire Strikes Back, Return of the Jedi and The Force Awakens mean nothing to her credits? You might want to do a little more research into her career before you post about her popularity. Let me help you out:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000402/?ref_=nv_sr_1

As for the media coverage of her death? I'm not surprised by it at all.

R
 
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landtuna said:
I guess I am lucky in that I have not been personally affected by mental health issues but even in that vein I had not heard of her, nor, I suppose would most people. She was known by the public primarily an actress but not one of significant accomplishment. Her popularity seems to be based almost solely on Star Wars which was a great cartoon but a lousy movie.
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During my career I have seen too many people affected by mental health issues, both on the radio side and in the music industry as well. The understanding of those issues is often dated and unfair, as well.

I am surprised that you have not encountered individuals with some degree of mental health issues. You have had a sheltered life, perhaps.

Add in the drug issues Carrie wrote about in her books and screenplays and you have another problem that affects tens of millions.

George Lucas pulled a huge fast one on the world's people with Star Wars. He took what was basically a battle scene from WWII and converted it to science fiction (and very poor sci-fi at that) and packaged it inside a 1940's serial wrapper. It is neither good science nor anywhere accurate to space travel as it was known in 1977. It was so bad it could, and should, have been a Disney movie for 5-year olds. But even within that, Fisher's role was not significant and didn't do any more for women than hundreds of other motion pictures (when most were made when women did not have basic rights). I was shocked when I saw current photos of Fisher as she looked a good 20 years older than her real age. A testimony to a life lived on drugs I imagine. Another George Michael.
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Obviously, as was posted earlier, not a Star Wars fan. I am of an opposite opinion. The first Star Wars film was a great example of what a good movie should be, including an entertaining story, excellent state of the art production techniques, a memorable soundtrack and two very amusing robots. I seldom see a movie more than once, but I've seen episode one five or six times and could still watch it again.

As to your drug remark, you fail to recognize what even Carrie wrote regarding her addictions: it was the only way she could deal with her bipolar condition. It's something she openly discussed in an effort to help others understand the complexity and difficulty she and many others endured.
 
seatownmedia said:
I learned tonight, due to her mother's death, that this documentary has been completed and screened in Cannes. Set to show on HBO in 2017. Fortunately or unfortunately, circumstances today will likely make this a huge hit.
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Inside Debbie Reynolds and Carrie Fisher’s Upcoming HBO Documentary: ‘It’s a Love Story’

The deaths of Debbie Reynolds and Carrie Fisher over the past 48 hours have left the team behind the upcoming HBO documentary on the mother and daughter reeling from shock.

“Bright Lights: Starring Debbie Reynolds and Carrie Fisher” is a chronicle of the extraordinary bond that mother and daughter forged over six decades in the unrelenting glare of showbiz’s spotlight. Documentary vets Fisher Stevens and Alexis Bloom directed and produced the film, which screened in October at the New York Film Festival and before that in Cannes.

“It’s a love story,” said HBO Documentary Films president Sheila Nevins told Variety Wednesday night after the news broke of Reynolds’ death at the age of 84.

“Carrie wanted to make ‘Bright Lights’ for Debbie and Debbie wanted to make it for Carrie,” Nevins said. The sudden loss of two women only magnify the importance of Fisher and Bloom capturing the material for the movie when they did.
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https://variety.com/2016/tv/news/de...her-bright-lights-hbo-documentary-1201949513/
 
landtuna said:
intensify yet again.
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Intensify yet again? It really has never gone away.

I am pleased to see that coverage of Ms. Reynolds' death has covered mostly her own career. This is significant for me, as most of her major accomplishments in Hollywood were from back before I was born. My generation probably best remembers her for being the woman that Eddie Fisher left, for Elizabeth Taylor. Since I had not heard much about Ms. Reynolds in recent years, I assumed that she had already passed away.
 
Eddie Fisher was a cur, and Elizabeth Taylor only married for love.
 
Silkie said:
Eddie Fisher was a cur, and Elizabeth Taylor only married for love.
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Wow yes some media outlets have put huge emphasis of a Scandal involving Debbie Reynolds, Elizabeth Taylor and Eddie Fisher again 60 years after the fact. And as soon as Debbie Reynolds was declared dead that scandal somehow is at play again as soon as the family is planning out the funerals of both Fisher and Reynolds and their burial locations.
 
RadioPatrol said:
Wow yes some media outlets have put huge emphasis of a Scandal involving Debbie Reynolds, Elizabeth Taylor and Eddie Fisher again 60 years after the fact.
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There was tremendous sympathy for Debbie at the time, and the scandal basically ended Fisher's career. But ever since then, Debbie Reynolds received positive attention.
 
HBO Moves ‘Bright Lights’ Debut In Wake of Carrie Fisher, Debbie Reynolds Deaths

HBO announced this morning it will move up the debut of Bright Lights: Starring Carrie Fisher and Debbie Reynolds to Saturday, January 7 at 8 PM, in light of this week’s deaths of Fisher and Reynolds. The documentary is an intimate portrait of the mother and daughter who lived in the same Beverly Hills compound. In the docu, 83-year-old Reynolds still has a Las Vegas act, but performing is taking its toll, and Fisher’s response HBO describes as “hilarious and heart-rending.”

That is in addition to HBO’s previous announcement it will encore the 2010 special Wishful Drinking on New Year’s Day, January 1 at 9 PM ET/PT. The feature-length adaptation of Carrie Fisher’s autobiographical stage production combines Fisher’s one-woman stage performance, interviews with family and friends, and archival footage.
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https://deadline.com/2016/12/carrie-fisher-debbie-reynolds-bright-lights-hbo-reschedules-1201877011/
 
RadioPatrol said:
Wow yes some media outlets have put huge emphasis of a Scandal involving Debbie Reynolds, Elizabeth Taylor and Eddie Fisher again 60 years after the fact. And as soon as Debbie Reynolds was declared dead that scandal somehow is at play again as soon as the family is planning out the funerals of both Fisher and Reynolds and their burial locations.
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It is worth noting that Inside Edition mentioned the "restroom incident" in their coverage of George Michael the other day. And it just so happened that Michael "outed" himself in an interview with Jim Moret, who just happens to be with Inside Edition now, but was with CNN back then (1998).

Apparently, Inside Edition had an "evergreen" program set to go on Monday, because there was no mention of Michael in it, but by Tuesday, they led with the story on Fisher, then followed it with their tabloidish coverage of Michael.
 
TheBigA said:
There was tremendous sympathy for Debbie at the time, and the scandal basically ended Fisher's career. But ever since then, Debbie Reynolds received positive attention.
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Correct. That was where I was headed. No scandal on the part of Debbie Reynolds, and I defended Elizabeth Taylor as well. She always married for love.
 
Debbie Reynolds and Carrie Fisher to be buried together

Debbie Reynolds' son said Friday his mother and sister, actress Carrie Fisher, will have a joint funeral and will be buried together.

Todd Fisher said the actresses will be interred at Forest Lawn-Hollywood Hills, the final resting place of numerous celebrities, including Lucille Ball, Dick Van Patten, Liberace, Florence Henderson, David Carradine and Bette Davis.

The son said no date for the funeral has been set, but it will be private. A public memorial is being contemplated, but no plans have been finalized.
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http://www.14news.com/story/3415625...l&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer
 
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